let me group together the jack smith/january 6 indictment and fani willis, rico indictment in georgia. fundamentally, i think there is a real problem with these indictments in that they are attempting to criminalize statements made, positions taken, advocacy that, for the most part, are protected by the first amendment. protected both as expressions of speech, free speech, but also efforts to petition the government for redress of grievances which is also protected as a core right in the first amendment. the trump campaign was endeavoring to urge state legislators and officials to take another look at the campaign results, the election results in their state. and you might think the legal advice given was not well considered, you might think that there was no significant hope of getting relief, but that is not to say that the president and his campaign did not have a right to raise these issues and urge legislators and state officials tack in response to these grievances. if you look at the jack smith complaint january 6, i don't know about you but i was waiting to see -- first of all

fani willis has brought this assertive r. i. c. o. case they are against trump and 18 others, people just starting to learn about this prosecutor. >> i think it's a choice between integrity and corruption, good and bad. >> that was willis, but not talking about this case. there, she was discussing what she called a choice during her campaign for this post. and we will get to that in a few moments. it's pretty interesting. but on this case, she previewed these upcoming arguments by outlining the legal theory that trump and those codefendants actually formed a legal gang, or racketeering enterprise, which existed to overthrow biden's lawful win in georgia. >> rather than abide by georgia's legal process for election challenges, the defendants engaged in a criminal racketeering enterprise to overturn georgia 's presidential election result. >> now, that state racketeering law is a powerful tool for prosecutors. there were observers who questioned whether this was a reach to use it in the trump case. but i can tell you tonight, willis's a

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in georgia, fani willis has charged three of the 16 fake electors in that state as part of her conspiracy case against donald trump. in michigan, 16 fake electors have been charged by the states attorney general. one of them is already cooperating with prosecutors. today, in nevada a grand jury announced that it has indicted six of not out as fake electors. all of those cases are making a way through the courts. and in the state of wisconsin, we finally got something we have not yet seen. accountability. today, donald trump's ten republican state electors from the state of wisconsin officially agreed to settle a lawsuit over their election forgery. those ten republicans fake electors have agreed to withdraw their fake documents, they have agreed to acknowledge that joe biden won the 2020 presidential election three years later. and they have all agreed to never served as presidential electors in any election where donald trump is on the ballot. so all of that is meaningful and it is long overdue. but it is also very clarifying. because as part of that settlement in wisconsin, we have also

let's show the jordan's letter to fani willis, jordan said that fani willis, got in touch with bennyhe january 6 committee this is -- she -- he said it is a political ploy. to influence 2024 election that she is colluding and working with january 6 committee to go after trump, what do you think? >> i think it clear, why in the world, she is a local d.a., why would she go to a congressional committee to gdocument c, they have, this is a politically ambitious local prosecutor, the case she filed is an abuse of state law, she like jack smith is trying to criminal criminalize first amendment protected activity and questioning the outcome of an election, there are a lot of current members that would be in jail if this was a criminal act, this is more evidence of her bias and political motivations in what is happening. elizabeth: you know democrats have been c criticized for questioning outcomes before, jordan points on fact that fani willis delayed filing the charges for two years before she went after trump, and in middle of twi 2024 election. >> that says a lot. about her motivation, wh

fani willis.the reason why i say that is fani willis could seek revocation of trevian kutti's bond status because her bond conditions that kutti stipulated to, she agreed to, is that she's not allowed to threaten, intimidate, harass any victim, any witness, any codefendant in the case. what's problematic is she posts on social media as well. not just instagram live, she posts on twitter as well. and so she's just inviting more trouble. and she is -- it's an indication of a systemic problem we're having with these codefendants in fulton county running from trump to harrison floyd to trevian kutti. they don't keep their mouths shut. they're making the case easier for fani willis. why? because why would she be threatening somebody if she didn't think there was exposure to her if that person opens their mouth and testifies. the other stupidity that comes into play, they're being prosecuted as part of a larger rico conspiracy, but she's being prosecuted for threatening ruby freeman. what does she do on

what fani willis is doing is unprecedented. i can see this court standing up for the rights of federal officials in blocking onto premise because -- on supremacy clause grounds if they are designed to punish or retaliate or take a political stand against federal officials. that's going to be hard for the court to draw the line. how do we know estate is doing that versus applying general law to federal officials in private capacities? sorry for the long answer, but that is something the supreme court has to address. it really has not for a long time. maybe since the civil war. >> thank you. we have time for one more question. this is a more recent development. stephen calabrese and others have filed an amicus brief in the supreme court are doing jack smith is not properly appointed by the president or confirmed by the senate and therefore cannot exercise the authority of a special counsel. do either of you have thoughts? >> we were discussing this before coming on the air. this is an argument made by a federalist society member.

what fani willis is doing is unprecedented. i can see this court standing up for the rights of federal officials in blocking onto premise because -- on supremacy clause grounds if they are designed to punish or retaliate or take a political stand against federal officials. that's going to be hard for the court to draw the line. how do we know estate is doing that versus applying general law to federal officials in private capacities? sorry for the long answer, but that is something the supreme court has to address. it really has not for a long time. maybe since the civil war. >> thank you. we have time for one more question. this is a more recent development. stephen calabrese and others have filed an amicus brief in the supreme court are doing jack smith is not properly appointed by the president or confirmed by the senate and therefore cannot exercise the authority of a special counsel. do either of you have thoughts? >> we were discussing this before coming on the air. this is an argument made by a federalist society member.

>> you think, quickly, do you think that single, sun, the strength of their case is if you are fani willisomebody like mark meadows or they don't need someone like rudy giuliani to cooperate, which all those guilty pleas so far have included cooperation. do you think fani's wilson's case is so strong guys like, i don't need them to prove my case against donald trump? >> i think it is notable, the evidence that was in the indictment against trump that's fani willis had, which we saw in the d.c. indictment. she had a lot of evidence that was separate from the january six committee found, about the federal investigation found, and, also more well mark meadows. she had a lot of points in the indictments about how meadows was coordinating with state officials, where he was giving both in his capacity, maybe as a white house official, but also, what he was doing on behalf of trump as a campaign, as a presidential candidate. so, i think there were notable instances of evidence that fani willis had, but the federal indictment did not have. i think it speaks to the strength of her argument. >> so y

fani willis has said that her office will be ready to drive this case in about 30 days. you are a former prosecutor, i'm a former prosecutor. i think that's a bit of posturing by her. but what say you? do you think that's a realistic timeframe? oh do you think that might somewhat be a little bit of a bluff by her office to maintain the sense of prosecutorial initiative and aggression? >> we >> did we lose? paul i think we may have lost my friend paul. >> are you back? >> i can hear you now. >> yeah, i can hear you. >> my question was, do we think that the 30 days the fani willis has advanced, do you think that's realistic, or do you think that there may be some bluffing that she is doing with respect of maintaining the appearance of being ready to move forward? >> it's not gonna happen in 30 days. but trump lawyers say that if fani willis gets her way and this trial happens, even in all of this with a presidential campaign is in full swing, that will be the most effective election interference in u.s. history. that's not true but last week d.a. willis has said just becau

. >> charles, officials like fani willis in fulton county and even laetitia james in new york am stoodong in the face of criticism but also other attorneys. there are some people in the legal community that were very critical of what they were doing, what did you make of herschel strength this year? >> people need to understand the role of the prosecutor in when you are talking about all of the examples that you gave both laetitia james and fani willis, and then you added alvin bragg, as well as a special prosecutor jack smith's you are seeing prosecutors do exactly what it is that they do. it's not unusual, unfortunately speaking, as a former prosecutor, i'm sure that kathryn can attest to this as well, that prosecutors are deriving simply for doing their jobs. but i do think it is important to point out that when you point out what we've seen this posture from donald trump his accolades and all of his supporters, there is a notion of white nationalism that has garnered a particular vitriol that has been directed both alvin bragg as well as fani willis and laetitia james. that is some

fani willis didn't put mike pence in the grand jury. because of all the obstacles it would take. mike pence was the one alone in the room with donald trump during some of these conversations, so only he can provide that first-hand, non-hearsay testimony about what happened. it's so important to proving donald trump's criminal intent in this case. while it may be very significant that mike pence is on that list, it's not surprising he's an essential witness here. i don't see how she tries the case without him. >> here is the thing. it's significant legally and also politically, thanks to greg's reporting. there's a multitude of republicans who are likely to testify in the georgia case. pence would be the highest ranking republican. take a listen to what he has said about fraud in georgia. >> frankly, there's no idea more un-american than the notion that any one person can choose which votes to count for the american presidency. despite what the former president and his allies have said now for more than two and a half years and continue

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fani willis has suggested she won't accept a plea bargain for mark meadows, rudy giuliani, or the former president. we could be looking at just -- in the trial, and i think it's quite possible that that could happen before the election with a concerted effort. really interesting the judge mcafee suggested that fani willis and jack smith -- especially on discovery issues. right now, there is a court order preventing the lawyers in the federal election interference case from sharing documents with anybody else. judge chutkan might allow that sharing, which would allow both federal election interference and fani willis's trial to proceed more quickly. >> i appreciate both of you this morning. thank you for being with us. paul butler is a former federal prosecutor and -- jennifer reuben is an opinion writer at the washington post and an msnbc political analyst. coming up, we're looking at the war between israel and hamas from all different angles. first, we'll get an update on the ground since the temporary truce broke down on friday. deaths are topping 700, according to hamas. we'll look at

we have fani willis telling "associated press" it was a silly notion to expect her to pause her case trump's running for office. more of trump's co-defendants could take plea deals, so a couple of newsy nuggets there. what are you watching for most closely in this case? >> the big question in this case is whether fani willis can get donald trump into the defendant's doc at some point before the november election. that's what she wants to do. i have no doubt she will not respect any kind of donald trump campaign timetable. but this case is so complex, and there's so many defendants, it really depends how quickly the judge can move it along. if she can't get it to trial before the election and donald trump is elected president, it becomes very problematic after that. the justice department doctrine is that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted criminally. that's never been tested by the supreme court. it seems unlikely that the court, the federal courts are going to allow a state d.a. to haul a sitting president into a criminal trial. the stakes are really high as to whether fani wi

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>> you also spoke with the district attorney there in fulton county, fani willis last night.did she have to say? >> last week trump's defense team, they made their debut last week in court. he is a high-profile defense attorney and he submitted arguments to try to get this case dismissed and one of them is claims of election interference. he says his client to likely to be the nominee for president and it would amount to political interference if he's running for president at the same time his trial is proposed to start by the d.a.'s office which is august 2024. fani willis was in new york last night receiving an award for her work and we put that question to her about what she thinks about this claim of political interference. >> i think it's ridiculous. we've been conducting that investigations since 2021, january 1st. the investigation has taken its course and we are at the point that the investigation naturally took us to. so i think it's a ridiculous allegation. >> so there's no hearing scheduled on the books just yet, but the judge in this case has given the defense att

i think that's something both fani willis and jack smith will make clear. i can't imagine what ms. moss and ms. freeman have been going through, but the fact they have been willing to testify, willing to speak their truth about the importance of this is so important. i am grateful for them, but i do hope that they continue to take solace and have protection, because of what has, the incoming has been for them. that's precisely why we're here today and what this jury today is weighweighing. >> that justice still is served and the journey, through the wringer. >> harry, it's no secret rudy giuliani isn't exactly rolling in dough right now. so the question i have been wondering is, there's been a lot of money asked for. for good reason in terms damages. what happens if he can't pay the money? what's the process? >> that the "the" question i think i'm starting to realize is pertinent to rudy giuliani. he has to declare bankruptcy. probably after they run their appeals and he doesn't, hardly has money to pay a lawyer for appeals, for appearances, anyway, they file a separate motion to e

you look at what fani willis proposed federal would be, since the trial started in august, just a few months before the november election. we really do see the collision between the law and the campaign trail, right here in georgia, as clearly as august of next year. >> greg bluestein, eugene daniels and anthony coley, it will be a long electioneering, q all very much. coming up, what some democratic voters and what key battleground states have said about joe biden and donald trump, and what signals heading into the new year? and, later, one reporter calls it a congressional christmas gift to putin, despite the presidents warnings that if the house leave without a deal for ukraine aid. we'll get into it with our story with michael beschloss. the 11th hour is just getting underway on a friday night. >>> polling in next year's presidential election shows a close race between joe biden and donald trump, but polls cannot tell the whole story. my colleague spoke to iran table a democratic voters in michigan. >> so, show of hands, who is decided on who they will vote for in 2024? okay, so t

. >> fani willis, to attempt to imprison the chief executive of the united states because that would prevent the chief executive from doing his constitutionally required duties. and almost certainly the court would say this has to go on pause until the end of the presidency, so that takes you to trump '29. >> and indeed jump mcafee down in georgia was asked when feasibly would be a good time to start this trial with donald trump, and they said after he finishes out his second term in the year 2029. there are a lot of directions and information ability how to skirt the guardrails of democracy. it is terrifying and compelling. >>> still ahead this evening texas law bans nearly all abortions with very limited exceptions. one pregnant woman went to court and challenged what those bans meant for her, and today she won. more on that story is coming up next. won. more on that story is coming up next we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmin

for instance, mark meadows argued this exact point in the fani willis georgia r.i.c.o. called -- >> reporter: to say, i was helping president trump combat fraud. it was part of my duty as his chief of staff. but just this week the 11th circuit court of appeals of conservative panel of judges, a conservative judge, william pryor, shot down the theory quite harshly. he said, absolutely not, the president and his chief of staff have no right to be interfering with this level of election administration. these actions were not related to anyone's official duties in the executive branch, and these claims cannot insulate you from liability. i think that goes for mark meadows, it'll go for donald trump as well. this is a desperate attempt to use his pr machine to build up support for his legal argument. i don't think either of them landed carrying water. >> trump does have quite the pr machine. susan, house ronna mcdaniel, how will your pr work around this, at best this is not a good look? >> no, that's right. no republican carl rogue said today that he thought she could be in

there were alongside the federal case and the fani willis case, there were many state laws that plausiblys absolutely true. and we now know, chris, based on this reporting that there were at least four recorded calls. there are the two calls that george was mentioning earlier in georgia brad raffensperger and watson and then the call reported in michigan, and i want to remind you there's a fourth call to now deceased house speaker david rollston who provided a copy to the special purpose grand jury that fani willis convened. we now know this guy that infamously doesn't text, doesn't e-mail was foiled by the smart phone era and a bunch of quick thinking folks when he made these granular weedy calls to the wayne county commissioners, fired up the phone to record him having these conversations giving rise to as you note potentially some state law claims but also additional evidence of the wrongdoing in jack smith's case. >> yes, also. you're firing up the recorder -- the iphone recorder not because you're like this is a cool souvenir. you're firing it up as brad raffensperger because this is

>> i hate to use the term imminently, because fani willis used that famously in georgia in january, butdidn't get an indictment until the summer, but i think that judge chutkan quite rightly was waiting to see if this decision would come down and provide guidance, because she is a district court judge in the same circuit so that she is going to be bound by any decision that comes from the circuit. so, having said all that, the answer to your question is, i would think that we could expect a decision next week. she understands that this is the decision. the presidential immunity decision in her case is the one that will certainly go to the circuit, and it may go to the supreme court, and if there's one thing that could derail the march 4th date that she said is set in stone, it's that appeal process. so, she is going to have every incentive to really get her decision out, but obviously, she's going to digest the work today of the circuit court in the civil case. >> luke, andrew's use of imminently brings back warm memories of how politicos, judges and jrnalists all have different definit

. >> fani willis.imprison the chief executive of the united states because it would prevent the chief executive from doing his constitutionally require duties. and almost certainly the court would say this has to go on pause until the end of the presidency, so that takes two to 2029. >> indeed, judge mcafee in georgia has asked when would feasibly be a good time to start with donald trump? and they said after he finishes out his second term, in the year 2029. martin gellman, a lot of democrats hope that the trump team does not read this piece, because there are a lot of directions and information about how to skirt the guardrails of democracy. it is compelling and terrifying. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> still ahead this evening, texas law bans nearly all abortions, with very limited exceptions. one pregnant women went to court and challenge what those bands bid for her, and today she won. more on that stories coming up next. next. when you smell the amazing scent of ga

fani willis talking about apology letters.e of the letters thanks to the "atlanta journal-constitution," although there's not much to see, actually. the ones from sidney powell and kenneth chesebro are a sentence long. chesebro wrote i apologize to the citizens of the state of georgia and fulton county for my involvement in count 15 of the indictment. powell wrote, i apologize for my actions in connection with the events in coffee county. let me bring in former u.s. attorney, joyce vance, university of alabama law essor and msnbc legal analyst. goodo see you, joyce. i w to read more about what thought the letters are y she important. quote, if you do something wrong that impacts the community, there needs to be real contrition. the contrition doesn't have to be a poetic melody, pages and pages, sometimes you just need i'm sorry. she actually said she preferred a single sentence. how do you measure a show of contrition and how does that fit into the story legally? so i think it's a difficult situation, and it's one of the reaso

i find it hard to believe that you might have done differently for fani willis.do you say to those allegation's in one could argue that it is just hanging on by our threat, our democracy, at this point. >> there is no question about it. we had an excellent team put together. we looked at a lot of things. i can assure you, anything that we found illegal in our work, we have referred it to the proper agencies for them to do their job. we have made referrals into georgia, we made referrals here in the district of columbia. we were not a criminal organization. we did not have the ability to do that. when we found wrongdoing, like we did, we made the necessary referrals. that's not doing anything other than what we are sworn to do as members of congress. we have taken an oath of office to do just that. so, we're following the law. i trust that those colleagues who are trying to somehow say that the committee didn't do right, if they'll read what the regulations require, i think they'd be shocked that we followed the regulations to a tee. and for that reason, in the en

now, fani willis said she's going full speed ahead against mark meadows and trump and giuliani, the cores offenders in the remaining defendants. but i think any prosecutor is always going to be open to making a deal. especially when you have a bigger fish here and no bigger fish than the former president. i think it opens up an opportunity for mark meadows to say, you're facing serious time in georgia, and perhaps now he'll be willing to deal. i think we saw it before the january 6th committee, we have seen mark meadows here, he's always angling, always doing as much as he can to avoid culpability and backs up. now that he's reached a wall, i could see his lawyers perhaps engaging the prosecution again and seeing whether there is a deal to be made here, tt he avoids prison. >> trump's lawyers filed a new motion to try to dismiss this case from georgia on first amendment grounds arguing every charge and overt act alleged against president trump rests on core acts of political speech and advocacy that lie at the heart of the first amendment. do you agree? >> i think this is another example

meadows is one of 15 remaining codefendants that have yet to take a plea in the d a fani willis r. i. c. o. case. how does what happens from here affect the timing of that fulton county prosecution? >> well, right now, that prosecution is proceeding. it has not been staged, you've seen several defendants take place, particularly those that filed for speedy trial demands and several others. so, that case will continue to go forward. the reason that this argument is important is because mr. meadows was hoping to be able to remove his court and not have to appear or proceed in the state court proceedings. because we are looking at the calendar that is very concise when you think about some of the election activity that will happen later in 2024, i think this bench recognizes the bigger context and hopefully will come down with a decision quickly so that, again, the state court kemper seed. of course, both sides, as you said, can appeal to the supreme court and that may also extend the timeline. >> barb, how quickly do you think we could see some type of ruling? i know i'm asking you t

the concept of the trial in fulton county, fani willis has said she'll be ready to go around august-ish the federal trial, the judge did ask, how much time we do need if this trial could go earlier? and the lawyer said about 30 days, which means this trial could be the first one. >> it could be, ali. it could be anytime between now and 2029. but when asked, the state said it would give about a 30-day jump to subpoena as witnesses, they have a trial run with that with the judge from appellate trials that simply didn't go forward. so they're ready to go. but you also know the countervailing claim of eastman who said listen, i just can't wait around until 2029 to do it. that led judge back feet down other roads like, would this be tried as two -- of defendants, would it be defended as a defense each, and probably possibly trot by himself. we came out with more questions than answers when it comes to the timing of the trial. >> let's talk about the first amendment business, joyce. in fact, not in his indictment, but in the jacks mitt indictment, i think it's the second or third page. very v

we don't know whether fani willis has interviewed him.hat he's going to say. why is that significant is it took him a while to come around to the big lie. reportedly he said to federal prosecutors at first he had all of these questions. >> yeah. >> it wasn't until his son, a united states marine said, dad, you have to stand up for the constitution that he came around. again, he could be subject to a really tough cross-examination. >> the point you make that he had a self interest in the big lie because he himself would have remained in power. let me really quickly play some of what donald trump has been calling poor little mike pence. >> so as i was dropping off the note, my memory, i remember raebing the word wimp. either he called him a wimp. i don't remember if he said you are a wimp, you'll be a wimp. wimp is the word i remember. >> it was a different tone i heard him take with the vice president before. >> word she relaid the president called the vice president, apologize for being impolite. do you remember what she said her father c

. >>> plus, mark meadows doing everything he can do to get as far away from fani willis and fulton county as he can. the latest on his bid to move rico charges to federal court and maybe get them tossed out altogether. >>> and new political drama in a district that's already had more than its fair share after new york republicans pick a candidate to run for george santos' old seat. public records show the gop candidate is actually a registered democrat and has been for 11 years. so what the heck is going on. lots to get to, but we begin this hour with a critical breakthrough to allow more aid inside gaza at a time when everything is running out. a u.s. official says israel has agreed to open its border crossing at kerem shalom in the next couple of days. this was a key priority for the u.s. during national security adviser jake sullivan's trip to israel, and it marks a significant shift in policy for the israeli government, which has blocked aid from getting into gaza from its territory since the horrific october 7th attack, and it couldn't come at a more crucial time with the humanitaria

>> you know, i have to say, it's fani willis, and bolton county. she's got another r.i.c.o. trial going on right now that started out with 27 defendants, and all but 21 have pled guilty. [inaudible] ayman, she even flipped his brother. think of donald trump, rudy giuliani, and mark meadows as the not so young thugs in the election interference rico trial. >> all right, panel, please stick around, we've got a lot more to discuss after the break, including some bombshell reporting on classified documents. but first, my friend richard lui is here with the other headlines. hello, richard. >> hey, ayman, good evening. to the father of a six-year-old palestinian boy who was fatally stabbed filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the chicago landlord. he was charged in the brutal attack that police allege was a hate crime. police say the boy and his mother were targeted because of their muslim faith. a u.s. naval ship shot down several who t drones after commercial vessels were attacked in the red sea, according to the pentagon. u.s. central command said in the statement that the dr

fani willis just listed her witnesses for the former president's election interference trial.mp's own vice president is at the top of the list. four of his gop rivals will try to do it tonight in alabama by convincing republican voters in increasingly candid language that they are the better choice. and then there is donald trump himself whose own candid language might be enough to do it by reminding voters why they did not vote for him in 2020. >> under no circumstances you are promising america tonight, you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody? >> except for day one. except for day one. >> meaning? >> i want to close the border, and i want to drill, drill, drill. >> that's not retribution. i got it. >> i'm going to be, you know, he keeps -- we love this guy. you're not going to be a dictator, no, no, no, other than day one. >> that was trump at a town hall last night doing exactly what so many are warning, telling americans he didn't believe the constitution applies to him, and while many will no doubt say the former president was just joking there, he has

and maybe that is enough, the trial date in this case, you know, fani willis asked for a trial date ino even if the supreme court wanted to decide until june they would probably keep this trial on track after the other ones that predated it. >> i would remind our viewers that judge mcafee in fulton county has given a tiny bit of space on an extension of pretrial deadlines, but otherwise he is keeping things moving along. gwen keyes and barbara mcquade, i thank you for being here this evening and i appreciate you guys always. >>> coming up, a binder full of top secret russian intelligence files goes missing in the final hours of a presidential administration. it's not the plot of the next james bond movie, but another example of the dangerous chaos that was the trump administration. all the latest on that new report, coming up next. next my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose new neuriva ultra. unlike some others, it supports 7 brain health indicators, including mental alertness from one serving. to help keep me sharp. try new neuriva ultra. think bigger. [music “this lit

that's dicey energy going on between fani willis.r standing up to a complete flip of attorneys, but to her point, and this dovetails with your exclusive reporting no plea deals for the top lieutenant to donald trump. >> i think it was a particularly aggressive email chain. i think the defense counsel was presumptive. i think it gives you an idea of what endgame the d.a.'s office is envisioning. they tend to take it to trial. they intend for intendants to not be given plead eels and see it all the way through to the end. we had previously reported that trump and rudy giuliani and mark meadows were among the people who the d.a.'s office was not interested in pursuing plead eels with. if you think about that and the latest email in which we are saying, those are the candidates we expect to send a jail. >> the next logical question, you and i following the case in fulton county, very detailed. our viewers have been waiting for this trial date from scott mcafee. do you think the fact that she has announced no plea deals for trump, meadows

now, remember, on the other side of all this, fani willis said she wants to start the trial in august and made it clear she wants to try all 15 remaining defendants together, have one big lump trial starting in august. when you think about the timeline, if this is, you know, denied again if there is another appeal that could possibly have an impact on what that august trial date looks like, some questions around what that timeline becomes then. >> a couple of things that i want to walk through i want to walk through some of the arguments being made in court today, that tamar laid out for us and this could be heading toward the supreme court. walk us through, first, some of the arguments being made and how they sit with you. >> yes, so, the primary argument that we heard the judges ask, remember, when you do these appellate court arguments, you want to see what the judges are asking, because it kind of focuses the issues on what they're concerned the most about. the thing we heard the most was how can mark meadows possibly claim that all of the actions that are alleged in the indictmen

fani willis has 18 codendts facing election conspiracy and racketeering charges could take plea daysning against him. adding the silly notion that trump's case should be applause because he is running for office. does flipping codefendant give the d.a. the best shot of success? >> that is the path that they have taken in this case. as opposed to jack smith, where they just charge donald trump, making the case as lean and quick as possible, the fulton county case they decided to go big. they went with repo. they brought in all of these other defendants. now they are trying to flip them. they are doing something that i advise in my book. to go after trump's erstwhile vendors, especially and including his lawyers. a lot of times he doesn't pay these people, he does not treat them very well. this has been what fulton county has done very successfully, what fani willis of hundreds except for the. getting folks like jan ellis, kenneth chesebro, sydney powell. these folks were probably underpaid, maltreated. now we are finding out that they are going to flip against trump. the strategy does