. >> frank fania, stay with us for a sechblgt i waond. you have given us an enormous amount of information. frank fania of the police department in aurora said they have a person in custody, a younger adult male. a man who just, as he puts it, appeared in the theater and started using after using some kind of gas or smoke device. there were also reports of an explosion. the suspect was apprehended in the rear of the theater in a parking lot. the suspect had a car there with him at the time. he had a knife, a gun, another gun was found inside the theater. ten people killed in the theater. four others died at local hospitals. >> you said he was wearing a bulletproof vest. was that a rifle you said he had? >> i think you said a knife. when they arrested him, he had a rifle, a handgun and a third gun. >> so three guns. a rifle, a handgun and a gun inside the theater. >> do you know the type of other guns besides the rifle? >> that, i don't. >> so a rifle and two other guns. three guns. >> correct. no knife. >> a bullet-proof vest and some kin

on the phone, i have officer frank fania from the aurora police department. let me start with the question i was asking pete williams. do we have a sense of how long the incident itself took place, how long did mr. holmes or allegedly did mr. holmes or the actual gunman, if it's not him, sit there and spray this theater? >> good morning. i heard you guys talking about that briefly. i don't know. i know the call came in at 12:39. i'm only guessing the calls started coming in immediately after the shooting started. i have been asked how long it took us to get here. this theater is literally two blocks away from the main police headquarters. we have numerous officers in assignments scheduled to get off at 1:00 a.m. we had a bunch of officers in the area. witnesses said it seemed like an immediate response. i'm guessing less than a minute. to answer the question how long he was shooting, i don't know. witnesses did state it went on for k-- i'm trying to think of the words. but it lasted quite some time. was that ten seconds? i don't know how long that was. >> i'm

. >> officer frank fania, we appreciate you taking a break.ack to work and check in with you again. officer fania telling us on the air here, revising the death toll according to his chief at the aurora, colorado, police department, down to 12. it had been 14 and as high as 14 according to some reports, but the police chief in aurora, colorado, telling us on the air now the death toll at 12. we'll be right back on "morning joe." sorry. sore knee. blast of cold feels nice. why don't you use bengay zero degrees? it's the one you store in the freezer. same medicated pain reliever used by physical therapists. that's chilly. [ male announcer ] new bengay zero degrees. freeze and move on. wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less-expensive option than using a traditional lawyer? well, legalzoom came up with a better way. we took the best of the old and combined it with modern technology. together you get quality services on your terms, with total customer suppt. legalzoom documents have been accepted in all 50 states, and they're backed by a