matthews church and his involvement in the educational process, working with people like fanny richtds who was pioneering black woman in terms of the first african-american to teach so-called public school system here. so we have this conjunction you know, and it's going to be a collaborative situation from one generation to another spurred on by the other. did you know taken kind of being influence and enthusiasm for the break will yous occurring in the previous generation. we're going to see that happening time and time again and this whole odyssey of black detroit. you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. good evening and welcome to opportunities's program hosted by the commonwealth club of silicon valley my name is mary ellen, it is my pleasure to introduce doctor richard dockens evolution mare biologist pounder of the foundation for reason and science. and author most recently of science in the soul selected writings of a passionate rationalist. doctor was voted property magazine number one world sinker, and was on daily telegraphs 100 greatest living