out as far as china is concerned the real problem there has nothing to do with taxes and everything to do with the exchange rate that they simply refuse to allow their currencies to rise which gives them a competitive advantage that makes it cheaper for us to buy goods from them than to produce them are souse but nevertheless the u.s. is still the largest manufacturing country in the world and the largest exporter and i think sometimes we forgetn when actually we're still in pretty good shape. >> host: there is a story this morning about china pledging more aid to african nations after a conference this weekend. what are the challenges of a country like china going into places like africa were the u.s. is already but china becomes competitor as a developer in a developing nation in these countries? >> guest: i think basically in everybody's interest certainly to see africa am become more developed and i think the chinese view africa as an untapped resource for raw materials that they need to fuel their financial -- manufacturing sector. and so i think it is a challenge but i don't thin

as far as china is concerned, the real problem has nothing to do with taxes and has everything to do with the exchange rate they simply refuse allow the currency to rise, which gives them a competitive advantage that makes it cheap are for us to buy goods from them than to produce them ourselves. nevertheless, the u.s. is still the largest manufacturing country in the world and the largest exporter, and i think sometimes we forget that and run ourselves down whenually we're still in pretty good shine. >> host: a story this wmoiner philadelphia inquirer. what are the challenges of a country like china going into africa where the u.s. is already but coin becomes a competitive in those countries? >> guest: i think it's basically in everybody's interests to see africa more developed, and the chinese view africa as an untapped resource for raw materials they need to fuel their manufacturing sector. and so i think it's a challenge, but i don't think it's a problem. i think it's really -- makes a lot of sense for everybody. >> host: kirby, georgia, on or republican line. >> caller: hi. i wo

going back to business, as far as china, they'll like great britain. in the 1950's. emerging country. we need to have more policies where we agree with them on exports and imports. host: thank you. democratic line, sherry. caller: thank you for taking my call. i do not think that an apology is what is necessary. if another country was reading the american economy the way that these big banks and wall street are allowed to do, we would see it as an act of terrorism. we would, at any cost, stop this from happening to the fiber of the american people. with jobs, health care, just a total disregard for the human being living in this country. it has not grown abroad. it has grown in our own country. it is beyond shameful. they would not accept just an apology for 9/11 or any other terrorist act. by president, who i love and voted for, needs to put his foot down on the neck of these people that are pillaging the well-being and welfare of the people of this country. host:. "the new york times" has this story -- "saying story has its perils." the ceo of jpmorgan chase mainta

as far as freedom in china or human-rights, how much control do you have as to the technologies in chinana? >> it is important to view this issue in china in the broadest frame. we had an agenda which is an ongoing agenda. these are issues that we continue to discuss. the internet is a means of expressing those issues by chinese citizens within the country and gathering information about those issues by people in this country. also a way for them to express themselves to the rest of the world. we support their effort. we certainly don't have the control. the chinese government is your involved. but as one of the challenges that we face. we had a disagreement with the chinese government. our opinion is that there should be an open internet. people should be able to express their views in the most free terms. this will be a continued diplomatic discussion. it is also part of the responsibilities of companies. they are acting collectively to figure out what their role is. we need to be working with companies. we also need to be promote the free internet in china. >> the secretary announced

i'm sure you're aware of the most of the thousand years china has been governed by non-han people. and as far as they're not being a competitor or challenge to the chinese state, i think that both the mongol and other conquests are evidence of that their conduct, there was quite sure his competition for who was going to be running a china-based state, whether would be the chinese people themselves or other outsiders. and then in terms of the way this for characteristics that you have raise for us, seems to me, and perhaps you would agree, that there's a massive contradiction at the heart of the constitution of the modern chinese state, which is as you point out is ethnically totally dominated by the han. so demographically it looks very much like a nationstate that any nationstate that can claim 90 percent of our population, thinks of itself as one group. regardless of whether they would be or not, doesn't matter. that's pretty good. but the problem of course is the territory of the country is not so homogeneous at all. at least one third to one half of chinese territory is in fact governed n

at least as far as we know from china. >> i am not aware -- >> do you have any -- >> we are not awareof any prior notification of tests. we have spoken with the chinese since the test. we have asked them to be more transparent with regard to this test and testing in general. the chinese have only responded so far that this particular test was defensive in nature and not aimed at any specific countries and no warble debris was creaor created by this test. >> that is not helpful. before we move forward, if i attempt to enter that. for david b. shear and wallace c. gregson, china is our most important dialogue, the most important ally in the region, they developed in concept east asia security between japan, china and south korea, recent statement indicate, intended to include the united states. how do we discuss steps the u.s. is taking to increase the u.s./japanese relationship while we are pursuing a various set of relationships with china? >> we are working closely with the japanese to strengthen the alliance. secretary clinton met with the prime minister yesterday and celebrated the

at least as far as we know from china? >> i'm looking at my colleagues. am not aware of any. >> yes. i'm sure you can share some of that. it was not aimed at specific countries and that no debris was created by this test. before i move further, i have a statement for the record. thank you. thank you. china may be our most important dialogue in asia right now. japan clearly remains the most important region. with the new japanese government trying to seek or create or develop in concept, east asia security group. between japan, china and south korea. statements indicate that japan all along was intending to include the united states. how would you discuss the steps that the united states has taken to strengthen the relationship. the various set of relationships with china. the secretary can start there and secretary gregson can follow. >> we are working with the japanese to distract the alliance. secretary clinton met in honolulu yesterday and celebrated the 50th anniversary of the u.s.-japan security treaty. they recommitted to strengthening the alliance.

china, switzerland, israel, they all have their own organizations. they all are asking for things to be flown into the airport. those things are getting to the airport as far as we can tell. there was huge boxes of all sorts of different supplies. at that point there's no single person who sort of say, okay, china's stuff is over here. israel's stuff is over here. let's give that to these folks. that part of the process is breaking down. some of it is because it's still a bit chaotic eight, nine days after the earthquake. that's dr. sanjay gupta in port-au-prince. we swing to ft. lauderdale, florida. soledad o'brien is back home, cnn anchor and special correspondent reporter. she's followed the journey of orphans from haiti to miami. there she is. what's the situation there, soledad? >> reporter: well, i got to tell you, you have never seen happier parents who just moments ago saw their adopted children come off that airplane. it's been quite a voyage. what an amazing reunion. i think the parents were tense because it was unclear if they were going to be able to get out. the paperwork was in order. these are infants, young children from the orphanage. the

as far as freedom to the internet and china and where human rights are concerned, how much control doto technology in china? most technology companies are in china. how much control do you have? >> it is important to view the human rights issue in china in a broad -- in the broadest frame. we have a very long agenda which is ongoing and these are issues we continue to discuss. the internet, cell phones are a means of expressing those issues by chinese citizens within that country. gathering information about those issues by people in the country and a way for them to express themselves to the rest of the world. we support their efforts. we clearly did not have the control over how that happens. the chinese government is very involved in overseeing that. that is a challenge we face. it is where we disagree with the chinese government. we believe there ought to be a global, open internet that people ought to be able to express their views in the freest terms. this is going to be a continuing diplomatic discussion. as alex said, it is partly the responsibility of companies, individually

china, baidu and google by revenue. you can see some of the other research as far well below that. robert is on our republican mind. compared caller: good morning, everyone, and thank you for c-span. i live in silicon valley and i have been in china for six years working back and forth and also have been in the software outsourcing business. one thing that is kind of ironic is of the investment money that started out about the -- alibaba actually came out of the investment companies here in silicon valley. there is a very large contingency of chinese software engineers who work at google, who worked at jocko. there is such an integration between china and silicon valley, it is almost like the same hands, if you will. robert, have you looked into this? have you really seen the reality of our american investment companies that have been arrested in china, who actually have duplicated, the google model? because that is what they are doing. guest: i think if i understand the question correctly, it is, have i looked at the degree to which silicon valley and american investors have invested in china. yes, i think on the

far, this year, perhaps not. but perhaps next year or the next year-and-a-half. just to put it in perspective, is spreading in 10 times as much in real terms -- china is putting in 10 times as much general terms. it could crowd out private investment or if there will be a cliff in a year and have, what comes next when the green stimulus runs out, do you still have a windmill that is still not quite economic? there are difficult challenges that the history of energy subsidies and energy investment says that you need to workout. but there's no question that this kind of investment is a huge part of infrastructure. according to the national energy agency, because of the collapse of the credit markets, investment in renewable energy dropped 20% this year. it would have been a 30% drop had governments not in stilled stimulus packages. >> those were counterproductive to the discussion of climate. the plans had to be completed and in the drawer. you have a two-year window to roll them out. houston, one of the great examples in the world of failed urban policy, they used to their stimulus money to start construction of a third ring road around houston to open up more sq

far as new forms of energy will be one of the defining challenges of the 21st century. the nation that pioneered the use of clean energy is outpaced around the world. it's chinaed the largest effort in history to make their economy energy efficient. we spearheaded solar technology but have fallen behind germany and japan in producing it. almost all of the batteries we use to power our hybrid vehicles are still manufactured by japanese companies or in asia. so because of one of the steps like the one we're taking today we're beginning to produce more of these batteries here at home. now, i welcome and i'm pleased to see a real competition emerging around the world to develop these kinds of clean energy technologies. competition is what fuels innovation. i don't want america to lose that competition. i don't want the energies that yield the jobs of tomorrow to be build oversees. i don't want the way we use energy to be invented abroad. i want the united states to be what it has always been and that is a leader, the leader when it comes to a clean energy future. that's exactly what this clean energy manufacturing initiative will help us do. it will help close th

china's oppressive methods. but i don't feel sorry for google but i hope they get out of there because the things that the chinese are doing to the people as farcan here on the google, what good is it except a tool to have other nations? thank you. host: google's is not china posture majority internet. the majority of the market is a chinese search company. we will tell you more about it if i define it quickly. people talk about censorship. "the new york times" has this story. çó host: it says also that outside the company's offices in beijing, a trickle of young people laid floral bouquets and notes at the multicolor sign bearing google's logo. as daylight faded, two law students approached with rice liquor and lighted candles. she wanted to make a public gesture of support to google who steadily lost market share to baidu, the chinese company. it is the major search engines in china. jim on the independent-minded you are the last voice on this. caller: basically i work for a company in massachusetts, and medical company. there was a chinese national who was working there and they were talking blueprints, stuff like this -- so there is domest

far as life expectancy is concerned, so what to expect? a poor country was able to do that much is surprising for me. i did not understand at the time after left china to see what was going on in the u.s., when i first came to the united states i lived in burlington vermont, not in burlington then all of my neighbors were poor people. my next-door neighbors were all wealthier, and they were much younger than i was. they had four sons and both were illiterate. they were drinking beer on the porch every night. but their four children came to my house, ask me, can i have a piece of bread every day. i was so shocked. that is not the america i thought it was. wit i moved to boston, died rented a cabin from a rich landlord in one day he asked me, what do i think about america? i said, i am not impressed. [applause] he was so angry. he was so upset. i didn't realize how upset he was. he said, why? i said because you have so many-- but at the same time so many homeless, so many hungry people. at the end of the year, he asked me to move, right? and this guy had a daughter who was my son's age. and my son was six years old at the time. they had a 4-year-old b

as interest rates rise. the way it is done is very critical. a word about protectionism. so far we have kept it under control. i am becoming more worried about the china slashed u.s. relationship. most recently it was steel and more recently tires. the chinese have done their share as well. hear that situation and think it bears careful watching. i could say more about it but i will stop there. >> the next panelist to address the question is philip suttle of the institute of international finance. in your earlier comments you have tended to emphasize the more hopeful, optimistic aspects of the situation. what do you see as the risks? >> the issue of timing. in the near term they're probably more upside risks than downside once. a lot of that is things uri and i have been talking about. as a look further out it is easier to see downside risk. i don't think it is an absolute thing. the discussion is a function of the time horizon. if i can have my cake and eat it in emphasizing near-term strength but returmedium term vulnerabilities. i will focus on the dollar bill is. the second half of 2010. some of these have been touched on. it seems like four is th

china's oppressive methods. but i don't feel sorry for google but i hope they get out of there because the things that the chinese are doing to the people as farmajority internet. the majority of the market is a chinese search company. we will tell you more about it if i define it quickly. people talk about censorship. "the new york times" has this story. çó host: it says also that outside the company's offices in beijing, a trickle of young people laid floral bouquets and notes at the multicolor sign bearing google's logo. as daylight faded, two law students approached with rice liquor and lighted candles. she wanted to make a public gesture of support to google who steadily lost market share to baidu, the chinese company. it is the major search engines in china. jim on the independent-minded you are the last voice on this. caller: basically i work for a company in massachusetts, and medical company. there was a chinese national who was working there and they were talking blueprints, stuff like this -- so there is domestic spying going on here. but on top of that we have our companies over there. i'm just wondering what is the extent of the s

far, we have kept this under control. i have become more and more worried about the china-united states relationship, this was tires and the chinese have done their share as well. and here, that situation, this needs careful watching. i could say more about this but i will stop right there. >> the next analyst who will address this question, is the institute of international finance. you are emphasizing the hopeful aspects of this situation. >> one issue that is important is the issue of timing of all of this. one thing is that in the near term, there are more upside risks than downside risks. this is what we have been talking about, with the policy attraction inventory. as you look further out, is easy to see a lot of downside risks. the discussion is very much a function of the horizon that you are focused on. if i can have my cake and eat this, i emphasize the near-term strength. returmedium term vulnerabilities. i will focus on the dollar bill is. the second half of 2010. some of these have been touched on. it seems like four is the magic number. i would like to say hi to all the viewers in poland who we seem to be pandering to at the moment. [laughte

far, this year, perhaps not. but perhaps next year or the next year-and-a-half. just to put it in perspective, is spreading in 10 times as much in real terms -- china is putting in 10 times as much general terms. it could crowd out private investment or if there will be a cliff in a year and have, what comes next when the green stimulus runs out, do you still have a windmill that is still not quite economic? there are difficult challenges that the history of energy subsidies and energy investment says that you need to workout. but there's no question that this kind of investment is a huge part of infrastructure. according to the national energy agency, because of the collapse of the credit markets, investment in renewable energy dropped 20% this year. it would have been a 30% drop had governments not in stilled stimulus packages. >> those were counterproductive to the discussion of climate. the plans had to be completed and in the drawer. you have a two-year window to roll them out. houston, one of the great examples in the world of failed urban policy, they used to their stimulus money to start construction of a third ring road around houston to open up more sq

far as economic support. but if you say that in north korea and south korea, they do not have any major international superpowers control. even chinais not necessarily in control of north korea. i would like to see people in public discuss using the east german unification fashion why these issues are not strongly mentioned? >> i don't know if you want to make any comments, since you are in germany. it -- you were in germany. you are going to be modest and keep me on the spot i was reading a few things that christian has written. it is true that the russians were present when east germany fell. thanks to mikhail gorbachev, they quickly and quietly exited the country. you are right, north korea does not have that. in part that is because of the staying power of the north korean regime, that even without foreign troop presence, they maintain their grip on power in the wake of the east germans did not. -- in a way that the east germans did not. but i am not sure what that really means. one indicator of what it has taken so much longer for the two koreas, but i am not sure what else we can draw from that. >> andrew shepard, state depar

far we've kept it under control. i am becoming more and more worried about the china, u.s. relationship that fit and tat, most recently steel and tires and the chinese have don -- done their share aswell. here that situation, i think, bares careful watching. i could say a lot more about that, but i'll stop there. >> thank you, uri. the next panelist that will address the question is phillip suttle of the institute of international finance. phillip, in your earlier comments you've tended to emphasizes more hopeful, more optimistics aspects of the situation, what do you see as the risk? >> well, for one issue, i think it's important to get one's mind around is the issue of timing of all of this. one thing i think is in the near term, there are more more upside than downside even for the consensus. a lot of that is things that uri and myself have been talking about whether it's synchronizization or policy cycles. i think it's easier to see downside risk. if i can focus my risk discussions on those sort of medium-term vulnerabilities. by the way, i'd like to say hi to poland, who we seem to be pandered to. the first is oil. if you think about what gives you a global recession, oil is

far, have refused to accept. china is a very active member of the p5 _ 1 -- p5 + 1. we had a very constructive conversation. i raised the issue as you would have expected i get on google and internet freedom front. china has its approach. obviously, they feel strongly then they are much more open than perhaps they're getting credit for. i expressed my concern that we don't want to create a series of actions that in any way in pigeons, and the freedom and utility -- that infringes on the freedom and utility of the internet. will continue to discuss this matter in the context of our ongoing dialogue. as you can tell from the quotes you referred to, different people have different impressions. the overall issue is one that everyone should be concerned about. that is making sure that no one uses the internet for purposes of censorship or repression. we had a very positive exchange on this issue with the chinese today. let me and, because you have been very patient. let me anend by asking you to stand up. they have been working on behalf of expanding opportunities for women, protecting human rights and women's right. i have had a cha

far we've kept it under control. i am becoming more and more worried about the china/u.s. relationship this tit and tat and the chinese have done their share asll. and here that situation, i think, bares careful watching. i could say a lot more about that. but i'll stop there. >> uri, the next panelist who will address this question what are the risk is phil suttle, the institute of national financial. in your earlier comments within -- comments, you've tended to express the optimistic aspects of the situation. what do you see as the risk? >> one think, i think it's important to get one's mind around is issue of timing of all of this. one think that i think is in the near term there are probably already upside than downside even from consensus. a lot of that is things that uri and mist have been talking about. cycles, as you look further out, it's easier to see downside risk. i don't think it's a thing that's time independent. the risk discussion is very much a function of the time horizon one has focused on. i suppose if i can sort of have any cake and eat it here, i'm emphasized near-term strength but medium-term vulnerability vulnerability