, as far as state labor code requires, you will have, and generally speaking of five to one ratio as far as turning into apprenticeships ratio. that is what you would expect. -- as far as journeymen to apprenticeships ratio. i would say at least 20 percent of the work force should be apprentices. if we're talking about apprentices that came up through cbo's or city bills, you can imagine the impact the story of an individual who was previously of the -- previously dubbed as disadvantaged individuals. and to be able to eventually be a full-time journeyman carpenter making a minimum of $37.50 per hour from what he might have been making before. this is success for the city and county of san francisco. the requirement for health care is something that the city proposes, but in fact of the state also and forces with the prevailing wage requirement. thank you. supervisor avalos: thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good morning, ladies and gentlemen. and i have had the pleasure of interviewing larry ellison, head of oracle, the last couple of years. i have seen big acts like lenny kravitz to the black eyed peas, and i want to make sure companies like mine, which our social me