also as far as p.r., jamie dimon is about as teflon as warren buffett so, he can get away with it. >> that remains to be seen. i mean i think you're going to see this guy in front of congress. i think you're going to see a lot of the same stuff you saw with goldman. to kind of lay out the play book right now, you know 24rks hours after this revelation, i think, is way, way too soon. to me, i think, again, we've been talking about it at this desk this is a really dicey time for these business models because they've been staring down the face of regulation. this hurt as great field. >> lloyd blankfein was never able to go in front of congress. lloyd blankfein had to hem and haw and say, well, maybe people slould noun better. >> the fact of the matter is jamie dimon said in a conference fall the stock got battered in the lows of the session. the afternoon session, giving up what? another 30%. so it's being whipsawed around there. the question is not just do i invest in jpmorgan stock. and my guess, dan, you would say no, but that's beside the point. >>> wells fargo, pnc, u.s. bank corps,