we're talking with farhad manjoo and eric savitz. do you do venture capital? i mean, why not fund small companies and have them do things for you and then take some of that equity as well? does it work both ways? we were talking earlier about it working small to big. >> so there's a lot of people who do venture capital, and there's a whole set of skills there and training. you know, you need to understand how to invest, how to be an investor. right? and we could go and do that and raise money and do that. but frankly, there's a lot of people who do that today. some well, some not so well. but there's not a lot of people who do what we do. >> right. >> which is create the fundamental inventions and then be in the business of finding the right partner to transfer it. so there's a real value of being able to focus on who you are and what you're good at and staying at the cutting edge -- >> the history of parc, i don't call it a legend because it's not necessarily a positive thing. lots of great technology, the piece you did in the beginn