last week you had the farooq ahmed plot to bomb the d.c. metro.nd historically, terrorists have often seen training and rail and surface transportation as target of choice. i mean, 311, two major in the united states. the brain fitness case. another new yorker traveled overseas to commit terrorist acts. came back and was traveling the long island railroad. same i traveled every to give the young man. or najibullah zazi. this is another i would say al qaeda central -- again, subways. but we had a reminder just on friday that aviation as well. so these aren't either or proposition . but how do we get to the point where we enhance some of our surface transportation, but not at the expense of aviation security? would we go from here? not to mention the big system. we cannot have a tsa equivalent. we never get it to work. >> i think public transportation has been and will continue to be a challenge because there's a certain level of security measures you can embed before you compromise the purpose and utility of public transportation. i don't know abou

last week you had the farooq ahmed plot to bomb the d.c. metro.nd historically, terrorists have often seen training and rail and surface transportation as target of choice. i mean, 311, two major in the united states. the brain fitness case. another new yorker traveled overseas to commit terrorist acts. came back and was traveling the long island railroad. same i traveled every to give the young man. or najibullah zazi. this is another i would say al qaeda central -- again, subways. but we had a reminder just on friday that aviation as well. so these aren't either or proposition . but how do we get to the point where we enhance some of our surface transportation, but not at the expense of aviation security? would we go from here? not to mention the big system. we cannot have a tsa equivalent. we never get it to work. >> i think public transportation has been and will continue to be a challenge because there's a certain level of security measures you can embed before you compromise the purpose and utility of public transportation. i don't know abou

last week you had the farooq ahmed plot to bomb the d.c. metro. and historically, we've often seen train and rail and service transportation as the target of choice. 77 in u.k., two major plots in the united states. this is another new yorker who traveled overseas to commit terrorist acts, came back and was targeting the long island railroad. the same train i traveled everyday as young men. or faisal shahzad, this is another i would say al qaeda central. again, subways. but we had a reminder just friday that aviation as well. so these are either/or proposition. but how do we get to the point where we enhance some of our surface transportation, but not at the expense of aviation security? where to go from here? not to mention the big system and difficult not have a tsa the equivalent, we would never get to work. it would be five hours. >> i think public transportation has been and will continue to be a challenge because there's a certain level of security measures that you can embed before you can compromise the purpose and utility of public transp