lovely to see you farron. thank you so much for coming in.ere stabbed 18 times in two different attacks this happened when farron, once in 2000 and another time in 2003, and then you took it upon yourself to basically try and rid the streets of knives. so i understand that you've collected more than 1400 weapons in just five years, which is astonishing. or more than that , do you reckon? than that, do you reckon? >> yeah. no, the last count we've done, is in the high parts of 4000. >> 4000? well, sorry, my figures are out of date. so when you hear the labour leader or indeed any politician talk about bringing knife crime down, do you find that credible? or do you find that credible? or do you think there's a complete disconnect between politicians and what's actually happening out on the streets , well, i out on the streets, well, i thought where knife crime is now, and the governing bodies that's been responsible over the last decade or so, i believe there are part of the reason why knife crime is where it is now . knife crime is where it is

david campanale and tim farron. >> well, no, tim farron is doing fantastically well. >> actually, he'sy, he's no longer leader. he stood down because he was a christian. >> well, he didn't stand down because he was a christian. he stood down because he hadn't actually he hadn't actually handled the issues very well at that particular point. in terms of his belief system. >> but look, i mean, ed davey p&o, what's wrong with being is this a case of like tony blair saying we don't do god , liberal saying we don't do god, liberal democrats don't allow people to do god because it might put off atheist voters. no. >> you find ed davey and i think the rest of the london mps are all christian. as a matter of fact, there's not an issue about that. >> what's happened to this, david? >> i don't know the answer to that. camilla. to be perfectly honest with you. but it's a local issue, is not about christianity. it's probably about david campanale. >> well, he says it's about the fact that, activists and local local party members campaigned against him because of his outward christianity. well, i d

guys farron. alright. >> you know, honestly, i will tell you this.tty bad. i feel like it's dissipated within the last hour or so. so that's at least put me out a little bit of ease. >> but i as funny as it might seem, obviously, dealing with these fires is never a great situation at all. it's been cool this morning. so at least it's been providing just a little bit warmth and kind of this rare moment. but >> i got to tell you, yeah, it's been really interesting to come out this morning and see that we're dealing with actually really guests like conditions potentially raging fire used to the heat right eye. they also like not being an expert. i would see that on fire and the like call the fire department they're not considered a risk like that's just kind of smoldering. that's the way all out has nowhere to go. >> yeah, you know, it's when you're dealing with something like this. i don't know. i always notice is what i am covering fires when it comes. these firefighters and like, wait a minute. now we have flames are dealing with another smoldering w

he can't outright nigel farron. >> have you seen the blue planet with david attenborough?. >> you know when they have these bait balls in the sea and then they get attacked from tuna and it ends up by a sort of a husk and a bit of a bit of a, a fish eye. and that's about all that's left. that is a tory party right now. they're being attacked from left and right, from, from obviously the main opposition problem, which is keir starmers labour party, but also the reform party is getting its teeth stuck in. and i'm not sure mr sunak knows what he's doing or where to go. and this is entirely of his own making. you have to. it's not as though he's forced into an election. he wasn't meant to have this until until november. >> this is all on the basis that you can only win an election from the right, and not from the centre. >> you know, the cameron osborne argument is you don't need to go full farage. you've got to be broad church because you've got to unite two different constituencies . these tories constituencies. these tories that love nigel farage and tories that hated . tor

he can't outright nigel farron. >> have you seen the blue planet with david attenborough?. >> you know when they have these bait balls in the sea and then they get attacked from tuna and it ends up by a sort of a husk and a bit of a bit of a, a fish eye. and that's about all that's left. that is a tory party right now. they're being attacked from left and right, from, from obviously the main opposition problem, which is keir starmers labour party, but also the reform party is getting its teeth stuck in. and i'm not sure mr sunak knows what he's doing or where to go. and this is entirely of his own making. you have to. it's not as though he's forced into an election. he wasn't meant to have this until until november. >> this is all on the basis that you can only win an election from the right, and not from the centre. >> you know, the cameron osborne argument is you don't need to go full farage. you've got to be broad church because you've got to unite two different constituencies . these tories constituencies. these tories that love nigel farage and tories that hated . tor

tim farron, leader of the lib dems, not leader of the lib dems, not leader for long.he started going on about christianity too much. and then forbes in the snp, kate forbes, jacob rees—mogg sort of battled out it out, but he, you know, received a lot of criticism for his catholic views. >> yeah, they kind of accept it from him because most people believe he was around at the birth of christ. yeah. >> i can't let this go until we comment on this in hindu. this is rishi talking about his faith. he says in hinduism there's a concept of duty called dharma, which roughly translates it's about being, about doing your duty and not having a focus on the outcomes of it. isn't that an unfortunate . yeah, so that an unfortunate. yeah, so basically he's admitting that i'm going to do this even though i'm going to do this even though i'm not going to lose head down. >> i'm working away and i'm not thinking about what's going to happen. >> he could have been a bit more outcome focused yeah, but but if i'm being very fair, though, he did , that is what rishi is did, that is what ris