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explain what fascism really is in tonight's daily take. the worst thing. white house to give a. radio guy a minute. what. if you've never seen anything like this. let me let me i want to know wouldn't let me ask you a question. here on this network is what we're having a debate we have i know you see. these two feet is this really what it's about staying there figuring this race will be i don't want me to talk about the surveillance. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. another reason day of the ball much more than a brain cell thank you both a look at president obama's second term we're going to be even more. and even more invasions of our privacy even and monday january twenty third and the eighth and ninth for the president only now. is thursday all its big over the last eighty years something really interesting has been

consider the real history of fascism, what happens with fascism. when mussolini came to power he dissolved parliament and replaced it the chamber of fascist corporations. instead of the equivalent of a corporation district. they would sent their representative of that district and that was fascism. you could argue that america has been creeping towards fascism because you can identify increasingly, that senator is the guy from big oil and that senator is from big banking and that senator is from the gun lobby. people have their favorite industries and vice versa. that is taking us closer to fascism than any proposal to provide healthcare to americans. >> john: let me get one question clear. it's not possible to be a liberal fascist, correct? that's like saying hot ice or jumbo shrimp or holy war or ja rule music. >> in the european sense it would be possible but not in the american sense. >> john: why are people comfortable throwing around fascism, hitler nazis when they don't know when these words are? >> it's cheap--i was going to say cheap journ

he's changed his mind a little bit. >> technically speaking, it's more like fascism.where that government owns the means of production. in fascism the government doesn't own the means of production, but they do control it. and that's what's happening with the health care program and with these reforms. >> well, as you can imagine, whole foods' left-leaning customer base didn't take too kindly to that label either. mackey is already walking it back. >> i regret using that word now because it's got so much baggage attached to it from the middle of the 21st -- 20th century when you had germany and italy and spain that were fascist and people still associate that with it. of course i was just using the standard dictionary definition. >> merriam webster dictionary defines fascism as "a regime headed by a dictatorial leader that forcibly suppresses opposition." mackey, a self-professed libertarian, gets his definition from the ayn rand school of thought. listen, i believe mackey regrets using the word. but the most insulting thing about mackey's continued assault against ob

in exchange for blessing his fascism but this is what the rats of jesus on line want any sense angry. i stay here with us all it's got to go thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you ira stay tuned for the second of august making to m i five also blow or any may show all. victims multiply here each day. it's very profitable to invest in colombia with the very profitable this is a very high return on investment. you'll know me he has said that i've been working in this area for thirty years and i've always had to play the armed groups that made me better than other managers who changed their name and strategy but just tell the same murderous. high ranking suspects you know coming. pretty upset about that mr president. to president putin. both of you. i won't give an interview i'm sorry but no. investigation is a dead. end he says sick stop your bullshit and keep quiet or else you'll suffer the consequences. even if they're your bodyguards to watch themselves to because the same goes for them. recruits from sick i've never heard of such a case as ours are so much money in gold sti

in exchange for blessing his fascism but this is what the rats chooses sunline what he sounds angry . i state there were that's all it's got to go thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you ira stay tuned for the second i have always making. m i five also blow or any may show all. the time i. fly. welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to former m i five officer and will blow or any may show now of leap the law enforcement against prohibition and. the report thank you all right and you say there is a third front opened in the global war there is the war on drugs the war on terror and now we have the war on the internet elaborate who benefits from this well i think the military industrial complex benefits the most to me something that president eisenhower talked about fifty years ago but i would not classify it as the military security complex because security is big business and surveillance is big business across the planet it's a sort of race between the government and the corporate elite trying to crack down on our freedoms and they use those three was

exchange for blessing his fascism but this is what the rats of jesus on line what he stands angry. i don't i say there were that's all it's got to go thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you. for the second of august making to m i five whistleblower annie may show all. here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call i don't know. i'm sorry i missed the guy who cares an awful lot of my songs are you know what kind of my self you know what he was saying the feature is on the on liberal and the christian. confusedly but it's. good for you to distract us from what you and i should care about because there are profit driven industry that sell the facials that garbage because of breaking news i'm not a martin and we're going to break that. welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to former m i five officer and we're also blower and i may show now of a leap the law enforcement against prohibition and. the report thank you all right and you say there is a third front opened in the global war there is the war on drugs the w

exactly i mean not just america is suffering from fascism the they've got the pentagon will go on jon stewart's show you know in the second half and they'll push war and so he totally can this whole military complex in america and that's consider the alternative media so they love it the fox news promotes the military the pentagon goes on fox this they get they engage american wars. and people die and they celebrate that because they're fascist you know fill in the epithet from there all right so you've got the internet. which is becoming going the way of the war on terror war on drugs and of course the war on drugs we've got beheadings in mexico at what point does an era shorts instead of just threatening to put them into a good there's a government the fascist in washington just decapitated one psycho mix up well said he was seeing a patient of internet activists as well as activists in the real world as domestic extremists and in fact terrorists so for example ok pio streets of london they were warning the police in the city of london that they could potentially be terrorist group

in exchange for blessing his fascism but this is well below rather a choose a side line what any sense angry. i say there were that's all it got to go thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you ira stay tuned for the second of august making. m i five also blower annie mae show all. your new super secret lover tour. was able to build a new worlds most sophisticated robot which all unfortunately doesn't give a darn about anything tunes mission to teach creation why it should care about humans. this is why you should care only on the r g dot com. welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to former m i five officer and was unable or any measure of now of a leap the law enforcement against prohibition and. the report thank you all right and you say there is a third front opened in the global war there is the war on drugs the war on terror and now we have the war on the internet elaborate who benefits from this well i think the military industrial complex benefits the most to me something that president eisenhower talked about fifty years ago but i would now we coul

she did feel as you say very strongly about fascism. but i was surprised given the fact as a lead teenager he had been at least somewhat radicalized. i was surprised that he wasn't more outspoken about the horror of the world. in fact we don't have a lot of information from his time in the surface. the protest for the slaughter, the meaning of the killing, etc.. i think in part that is because as always you are dropping bombs from high yep you never see the damage that's being brought by the bombs on the ground below, so he never had to face explosively the results of his own activity, but it was very soon after world war ii that he became aware of the fact the very last mission that he flew they were ordered to fly the mission even though they knew the war was about to end after the war he went back and actually did some archival work and she was horrified how much this beautiful little town had been a fever for example had been decimated and almost ought german troops had been killed. but you do say that he never called himself a paci

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earlier this week you likened the affordable care act to fascism. comments you pedalled away from saying it was a poor choice of words. what did you mean? talk to us about what you were trying to articulate. >> poor choice of words because it has so much emotional baggage for people due to the stuff in world war ii. but what i was trying to articulate is we're moving away from free enterprise capital lymph, which allows innovation, experimentation, creativity, allows the marketplace to create progress in health care, to more and more government controls, which will bog it down in bureaucracy, raise cost, not produce the progress that we need in health care. >> what impact does this reform have on your business? >> it's raising cost. it's the opposite of being affordable health care because it's making it more expensive for businesses like whole foods and, as a result, that's less money that we have to pay our team members for wages or other benefits. the health insurance just grows as a percentage of what the total compensation that we're paying peo

in responding to a john merrick describing obamacare is fascism. big board advises friday morning but at a very high level so you and your 401(k), a 13-595. nicole petallides, intel. i keep calling and a door stopper, it goes nowhere but it is going places today. nicole: is going lower today down 6% coming out with a profit dropping, 47%, a weak outlook, down $1.35 and every time you see the dow going into negative territory you can blame intel because it is worth nine negative dow points. i saw the dow skip down. with out in tell it would be a little higher. stuart: that is a big drop. his closed. avalanche armstrongs and manti te'o, lies and deception. all about money on "varney and company". both could get millions of dollars. fox and friends host on the rear right now but will simulcast with "varney and company" and a couple minutes. do not miss this. stuart: 30 years ago i was invited into the gold vault deep underneath the federal reserve bank in new york city. i saw dozens of little rooms like prison cells each room had a number and containe

technically speaking its more like fascism, he's talking about obama-care.lism is where the government owns the mean of production, and in fascism the government doesn't own the means of production, but they do control it, and that's what's happening in our healthcare programs and these reforms. guys, i want to go you, michael shure, what are your thoughts on this? is obama a fascist? >> no, he's not. my favorite was when mackey went on to say, i'm sorry, i didn't mean fascist. some people would associate that with hitler and mussolini, i'm paraphrasing here. what else do you associate it with? it was totally out of line and it made me want to buy processed foot more. >> ana: i love that you mentioned him back peddling a little bit he released people were up set about it. the price of his stock did not drop at all, which i found interesting, but he found that the criticism was too much to bear, so he went on fox news and said the following. >> there is so much emotional baggage with that term dating back to germany, and spain, and italy in world war ii, that

he did feel, as you say, very strongly about fascism. but i was surprised given the fact that as a lay teenager heed been at least somewhat radicalized. i was surprised he wasn't more outspoken about the horrors of the war. in fact, we don't have a lot of information from his time in the service, but i came across nothing at all protesting the slaughter, the maiming, the killing, etc. i think in part that's because howard was a bombardier. so as always happens when you're dropping bombs from high up, you never see the damage that's being wrought by those bombs on the ground below. so howard never had to face explicitly the results of his own activity. but it was very soon after world war ii that he became aware of the fact that the very last mission that he flew over a small french town called ronan, they were ordered to fly the mission even though everyone knew the war was about to end, because several thousand german troops were garrisoned there. they were also told that they would be carrying a new kind of bomb which turned out, in fa

the demands of today's world by acting alone than american soldiers could have met the forces of fascism or communism with muskets and militias you know. christer of christa freeland in her new book plutocrats has identified three periods in american history when we won average when we left behind what the founders had defined as the purpose of government the united states the first started in the eight hundred eighty s. largely with the grattan ministration small government have government do very very little let the plutocrats do whatever they want it produced the longest depression in the history of the united states it devastated this country as referred to as the gilded age and also created a bunch of billionaires the second was in one thousand twenty two and warren harding ran for president on the slogan of less government and business more business and government kicked off the roaring twenty's harding coolidge and hoover and then you know it all blew up in one thousand nine hundred ninety because it predictably always does blow up when you have a market that's not regulated and t

he felt very strongly about fascism. i was surprised given the fact that has he had been somewhat radicalized, was surprised that he was not more outspoken about the horrors of the war. in fact, we don't have a lot of information from his time in the service, but i came across nothing at all protesting the slaughter, maiming, killing. i think that is because in part howard was a bombardier. when you are dropping bombs from higher up you never see the damage be brought on the ground below. so howard never had to face expressively the results of his own activity, but it was very soon after world war two that he became aware of the fact that the very last mission that he flew, they were ordered to fly the mission even though everyone knew the war was about to end because several thousand german troops are garrisoned there. there were also told that there would be carrying a new kind of bomb , which turned out, in fact, to be unable to which our did not know. that, of course, representative reached terrible havoc. after the

is that because that's where fascism began or they saw how well it worked here?it sounds like a dance club. >> john: tom hanks is doing the remaining. >> i want a branch in russia. i think any kind of empire should have a tea party there. >> the italian tea party will be far better dressed. the tricorner hat will be tilted to the side. >> it makes since they would be getting the tea party in europe. our fads go there when we're done with them, you know. they're probably just getting season one of fresh prince now. they're still wearing acid-wash jeans. >> john: neon is going to break any day. it is a good point you know. when you consider the point that like this whole notion of not paying any taxes freedom isn't tree but don't ask me to pay for it. a is that stupid enough to catch on with our european allies? >> my stepsister lives in italy. that country is a mess. i'm not saying -- maybe some sort of counter weight over there might not be a terrible idea. that country is about four years away from being a giant olive garden. it needs something. >> john: they ar

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george orwell in 1946 a famous essay, the word fascism should only be used for people with hitler and-- that was 1946, 70 years later we're still doing it. >> jon: do you see it differently, judy? >> not really, i thought that schieffer was very close to the line of advocacy as opposed to reading the news and being straight about a news story. i do think that even though there was no direct comparison there's clearly an inference that the n.r.a. is equivalent to the nazis and raises questions whether or not he wasn't just a little too opinionat opinionated. >> jon: if the president said there would be outrageous claims ginning up fear among gun owners. >> yeah. >> jon: or among the population. >> i do think that a lot of people-- speaking of nazis, a lot of people, gun rights people think that obama is the next hitler and they need guns to protect themselves from his tyranny and i can't stand the p.c. stuff, it drives me crazy. and seinfeld had the soup nazi and now when you say it everyone thinks they're comparing them to gassing people and murdering 6 million jews. i think that what

this time he said obama care is worse than socialism, it might even be fascism.iend to the show. whole foods markets co-ceo and co-founder john mackey. and he's the author of the new book "conscious capitalism: liberating the heroic spirit of business." fellow free market man john mackey, welcome back to the show. >> thank you. good to be here. >> i don't really care that much, but you backed off the term fascism. can you just tell our viewers why? >> the word has got too much baggage to it. it brings up associations with germany and italy and spain back in world war ii. so people aren't able to look at that word in any kind of objective fashion. so now i'm just saying that we have government-controlled health care. that seems rather obvious. and it doesn't get people so upset. >> right. is it actually a kind of socialism light or let's say a western european-style socialism? >> no, i don't think so. because socialism, the government owns the means of production. and the means of production will still be nominally in the hands of private enterprise, but governmen

here with their heroic deeds and phrases is a continuation of that primitive concept known as anti-fascism, which has its roots in faded communist east germany. >> such insults are typical for the npd. in the youth club across the street, children are learning a different approach to life -- tolerance for other cultures, democracy, culture of their convictions. that is what the initiative is about. working with children is especially important, to make sure they are not led astray by the extremists. >> and the government has also been working to ban the npd. for more, let's bring in our chief political correspondent. there have been repeated attempts to ban the npd. why have they failed? >> one thing is that free-speech laws set quite a high bar. there's a sense there's a real trade-off between free speech and any ban. another issue is the government's use of informers who are actually in the party. in the past, one attempt was turned down by germany's highest court, which said the government cannot simultaneously have informers in the npd helping make policy and also try to ban the party

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here with their heroic deeds and phrases is a continuation of that primitive concept known as anti-fascism, which has its roots in faded communist east germany. >> such insults are typical for the npd. in the youth club across the street, children are learning a different approach to life -- tolerance for other cultures, democracy, culture of their convictions. that is what the initiative is about. working with children is especially important, to make sure they are not led astray by the extremists. >> and the government has also been working to ban the npd. for more, let's bring in our chief political correspondent. there have been repeated attempts to ban the npd. why have they failed? >> one thing is that free-speech laws set quite a high bar. there's a sense there's a real trade-off between free speech and any ban. another issue is the government's use of informers who are actually in the party. in the past, one attempt was turned down by germany's highest court, which said the government cannot simultaneously have informers in the npd helping make policy and also try to ban the party

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traditionally socialism means production run by the government and in fascism the means of production are still owned by private individuals but they're controlled by the government. and what's happening is our health care plan -- our health care system's moving away from free enterprise capitalism towards greater governmental control. that was a poor choice of words due to the baggage and associations that go along with it. so, now i'm just calling it government-controlled health care. >> and you realize when you say fascism it brings up nazi germany and all sorts of things. >> yes. >> and we really want that language out of the public forum at the moment, don't we? >> apparently you cannot use that word anymore in america, it's taboo. be careful, you just used it. >> i did. some of your customers expressed outrage on the whole food facebook page. of course, he regrets his word choice. it affects his bottom line. i don't believe this apology any more than i believe mitt romney trying to get out from under his 47% comment. care to comment to that customer? >> everyone is entitled to t

more civil and equal driven society that they are friends essentially people who are for cultural fascism who are not prepared to see any other forms or take on any of their arguments about why the society should move forward. elsewhere around the world in brief tonight in china hundreds of people have rallied in a rare show of support for a liberal newspaper they chanted slogans for political and democratic reform the new said quarters of southern weekly the paper had been forced to change an editorial calling for reform of the communist party the protests comes after dozens of academics in china signed an open letter calling for the resignation of the eventual propaganda minister of the blame for the censorship. the search is on for a hundred missing people now in tasmania as wildfires continue to rage across southeastern australia and warnings to have been raised to the highest level that's a catastrophic level as they put it in parts of the mainland state of new south wales where there are more than one hundred thirty five's burning they're being spurred on by the strong winds of most

do with freedom of expression with what with what appears in their app store which is essentially fascism. and there are many many different organizations that are in a position to do this to you and nobody is in a position to tell them stop now. and you can describe yourself as a libertarian and this of course would suggest that people have the right to their own. money and that this money should be anonymous to a great degree what about the strand that we're moving away from anonymous cast of being every single transaction on the web. you're trying to get to this with your organization do you feel they can successfully do an end run around this trance or trance every every single transaction being being being registered with the central database number one and number two i don't hear you mentioning bitcoin and yet bitcoin same sabaidee a huge part of the solution or maybe i'm missing something is bitcoin part of all of what you're doing you know we will accept donations in bitcoin. personally i think it's got a ways to go before i consider to be a reliable word fungible currency or thin