it seems so early but by october 1st you can turn in your federal form, your fasfa form and figure out how much you may be able to get for the next school year >> sitting down and having a family meeting about it is probably the first step. that's a point you could make a realistic budget and everybody sits down and realizes, kids, this is what it's costing, must be a huge part of the plan >> it's a huge part of the plan. the first thing everyone needs to know, how much money is coming in, what is the cash flow and you have to track your spending you want to make sure you have one of the budgeting apps on your phone and make sure you set up separate accounts for easy budgeting. what are your needs, what do you have to pay, what are some of the things you want to be able to do and make sure you have that account for savings as well >> when it comes to fixed expenses, things you have to pay for versus things you want to pay for, go out for a sushi or a salad. things about textbooks, fixed costs. >> there are ways to cut the costs and you want to look for as many discounts as possible. on