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fatah is not popular in the west bank. have been protests against it for corruption, for the rising cost of living. they are not popular. so i understand secretary clinton needs to go there as just sort of paying respects, but if she really wants to mange progress regarding gaza, it will come from cairo. >> is it possible that you could foresee a time when hamas respects israeli's right to exist? that's the point they always come back to. >> it's interesting to hear officials talk about hamas today. it's exactly the way they spoke about the plo in the 1980s, and, therefore -- but that changed. the dialog changed, they got into negotiations, they signed the oslo peace accords in september 1993, and now plo are the moderates. no reason why not to foresee the day when hamas will be speaking on behalf of the palestinians with the israelis. >> a little more with ben. when we come back, we want to show you some of the other things we saw. leaflets being dropped by idf forces warning gazans to move out of areas, warning them to s
fatah is not popular in the west bank. have been protests against it for corruption, for the rising cost of living. they are not popular. so i understand secretary clinton needs to go there as just sort of paying respects, but if she really wants to mange progress regarding gaza, it will come from cairo. >> is it possible that you could foresee a time when hamas respects israeli's right to exist? that's the point they always come back to. >> it's interesting to hear officials talk...
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fareed is right to point out that fatah itself is not popular.nk many palestinians are weary of being caught between these two factions. neither of which has really achieved what they want, which is some sort of final solution and the ability to live in a state of their own in peace. both have sort of -- fatah was a major sort of engine behind the second intafada which didn't leave the palestinians anything in the way of positive results. hamas has sort of gotten gaza into endless trouble with israel. i think people here are, indeed, looking for some sort of third alternative that can sort of negotiate with israel, that can stay out of, sort of, the swamp of corruption that fatah fell into. and that many people here in gaza say hamas has gotten into with all the money it's making off of the tunnels and whatnot. so, yes, i think there is an exhaustion with both parties. but we've yet to see a third force to emerge here as an alternative. anderson? >> ben wedeman, fareed zakaria, anne-marie slaughter, thank you very much. >>> susan rice speaking ou
fareed is right to point out that fatah itself is not popular.nk many palestinians are weary of being caught between these two factions. neither of which has really achieved what they want, which is some sort of final solution and the ability to live in a state of their own in peace. both have sort of -- fatah was a major sort of engine behind the second intafada which didn't leave the palestinians anything in the way of positive results. hamas has sort of gotten gaza into endless trouble with...
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it can stay out of sort of the swamp of corruption that fatah fell into.nd that many people here in gaza say hamas has gotten into with all the money it is making off the tunnels, and what not. so yes, i think there is an exhaustion with both parties. but we've yet to see a third force emerge here with alternatives, anderson? >> fareed zakaria, emory, thank you very much. we're following more, 360 will follow more on the politics of congressman jesse jackson jr. also susan rice speaking out for the first time about the situation in benghazi. we'll be right back. [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas stat
it can stay out of sort of the swamp of corruption that fatah fell into.nd that many people here in gaza say hamas has gotten into with all the money it is making off the tunnels, and what not. so yes, i think there is an exhaustion with both parties. but we've yet to see a third force emerge here with alternatives, anderson? >> fareed zakaria, emory, thank you very much. we're following more, 360 will follow more on the politics of congressman jesse jackson jr. also susan rice speaking...
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a lot of evidence that both fatah and hamas are actually very unpopular with the palestinian people. stuck with them. partly because of the israeli block aid and they don't want to oust hamas, but they are not very popular. >> ben wedeman, have you been saying that also for several nights, they are not all that popular. >> no, they are not popular and fareed issan right to point out that fatah itself is not popular. i think many palestinians are weary of being caught between these two factions, which neither of which is really achieved what they want, which is some sort of final solution and the ability to live in a state of their own in peace. fatah was a major engine behind the second insta-fadda, which really didn't leave the palestinians in the way of positive results. hamas sort of gotten gaza into endless trouble with israel. people here are indeed looking for some sort of third alternative, that they can negotiate with israel, that they can stay out of sort of the swamp of corruption that fatah fell into, and many people in gaza say hamas has gotten into with all of the money
a lot of evidence that both fatah and hamas are actually very unpopular with the palestinian people. stuck with them. partly because of the israeli block aid and they don't want to oust hamas, but they are not very popular. >> ben wedeman, have you been saying that also for several nights, they are not all that popular. >> no, they are not popular and fareed issan right to point out that fatah itself is not popular. i think many palestinians are weary of being caught between these...
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in 2007, hamas kicked fatah out of gaza.w a lot of fatah people off the top of roofs and shot them in the streets. i think the secretary is focusing op another effort by abbas for the u.n. but they can send a message out that he wants a cease-fire. the way to reach conclusion of the conflict that has gone on is so many decade not through the firing or shooting or violence but through negotiations. >> shannon: will they listen to him? >> hamas has not listened to abbas recently. again, they declared war on fatah like against us. >> shannon: let's listen to the next leg of her trip taking her to egypt with president morsi. the leadership changed things in the region. how hopeful are you that be a neutral advocate in the process? do you think he is neutral in process? >> egypt in past played a constructive role. mediating between us and other factors in the region. we tend to focus on egyptian deeds, not egyptian words. we hope the deeds will continue to be constructive. >> shannon: at this point based on what you know and what
in 2007, hamas kicked fatah out of gaza.w a lot of fatah people off the top of roofs and shot them in the streets. i think the secretary is focusing op another effort by abbas for the u.n. but they can send a message out that he wants a cease-fire. the way to reach conclusion of the conflict that has gone on is so many decade not through the firing or shooting or violence but through negotiations. >> shannon: will they listen to him? >> hamas has not listened to abbas recently....
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a rare show of unity with yellow fatah flags along with green hamas flags and palestinian flags flying at this rally as well. >> that's right, fredricka. nothing brings palestinians together like israeli aggression does. you've been hearing about everybody on all sides, it's not whether you are affiliated or support hamas or fatah or islamicee geohuhhed or any of them. it is about being palestinian. we not only saw people out because they were supporting this victory, as it is being called on this side but also because they were able to do so because they spent so many days couped up, but their children were begging them. the minute the cease-fire was announced, to let them just go out. this has been a people that has been living in complete and total fear since this all began last wednesday. many saying they could not be entirely sure where the israelis would be striking next. you see targets ranging from empty lots between buildings, that the israelis where hamas was launching its rockets from, all the way through government installations, police stations, even media. journalists who
a rare show of unity with yellow fatah flags along with green hamas flags and palestinian flags flying at this rally as well. >> that's right, fredricka. nothing brings palestinians together like israeli aggression does. you've been hearing about everybody on all sides, it's not whether you are affiliated or support hamas or fatah or islamicee geohuhhed or any of them. it is about being palestinian. we not only saw people out because they were supporting this victory, as it is being...
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balls hamas and fatah about reportedly claiming responsibility. doesn't always rate is trying to solve the occupied territory take the forty counts in gaza over one hundred forty eight destroying the lifeline tunnels and government building. on the u.s. declares unwavering support for either offsets thinking eighty one resolution calling for a cease fire raising questions over the impartiality of what. this is and see coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program the harsh reality of war is being felt in tel aviv today where abbas explosion has left fifteen people injured already labeled a terror time to explosion is said to have taken place near the israeli army's headquarters israeli authorities are now hunting for two people thought to be involved in the bombing policy have reports not far from where the blast took place . now the police have told us that what they think happened is that one of these two placed a bag with a bomb on the bass and then immediately ran off the whole of tel aviv is in shutdown the schools all closed ch
balls hamas and fatah about reportedly claiming responsibility. doesn't always rate is trying to solve the occupied territory take the forty counts in gaza over one hundred forty eight destroying the lifeline tunnels and government building. on the u.s. declares unwavering support for either offsets thinking eighty one resolution calling for a cease fire raising questions over the impartiality of what. this is and see coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program the harsh reality...
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well i think it served to use the country in between hamas and fatah i've heard reflections from my peers and my colleagues who have condemned the strongest terms the attacks on gaza and have called for a sort of unity so i hope whatever we have seen over the to do in gaza will serve to restore palestinian unity indeed and bring the palestinians to their senses that this is nothing but an israeli attempt to take the lights off our thumbs to go to the general or some doctors have decided on thank you very much and the deputy secretary general of the fatah revolutionary council thank you for your comments there live from ramallah thank you. because we'll be keeping up to date with those developments in gaza throughout the day now it's a day of unity like europe hasn't seen in years though for all the wrong reasons of course a series of mega protests are on the way across the block with million signing up to join in on the resoundingly chorus saying no to austerity let's now speak to r.t. sarah ferguson following the demonstrations joining me live in madrid sarah can see continuing to see to
well i think it served to use the country in between hamas and fatah i've heard reflections from my peers and my colleagues who have condemned the strongest terms the attacks on gaza and have called for a sort of unity so i hope whatever we have seen over the to do in gaza will serve to restore palestinian unity indeed and bring the palestinians to their senses that this is nothing but an israeli attempt to take the lights off our thumbs to go to the general or some doctors have decided on...
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negotiate you'll see also israel stopping unilateral measures there but the only thing that unites fatah and hamas is its mutual hatred for the jewish state and you see that when they don't have a common enemy they usually just go to fist the cops and disagree on every other issue so that was really spelling a bad bad bad future for the middle east if the only thing that they can agree on is their hatred for israel ok now we know that i mean that's a very time janet's ok fair time i mean it seems to me that israel is creating its worst nightmare and that's one state ok and they're going to have to deal with it or be called an apartheid state ok they're keep creating the situation themselves. well i think you know there is a ready. in effect. a apartheid one state reality between the mediterranean and the jordan river and the challenge for the palestinians is how to effectively challenge that now i mean to suggest that somehow you know mahmoud us the extremely compliant to put it politely leader of the palestinian authority in the west bank is somehow driven and his policies. by hatred of
negotiate you'll see also israel stopping unilateral measures there but the only thing that unites fatah and hamas is its mutual hatred for the jewish state and you see that when they don't have a common enemy they usually just go to fist the cops and disagree on every other issue so that was really spelling a bad bad bad future for the middle east if the only thing that they can agree on is their hatred for israel ok now we know that i mean that's a very time janet's ok fair time i mean it...
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an eight hour fatah saying it had nothing to gain from his demise and political analyst on monash b. says the new investigation into arafat's death could actually be used as a tool to cause a rift between rival palestinian political forces. if there is a poisoning of president arafat someone must have put the poison in his food or must have put his poison on his skin and to do that it must be someone from his clothes on to wash and to open this investigation would create disputes within the fatah movement and within the close people to yasser arafat who are now the closest people to mahmoud abbas so therefore the question is is there a political objective on the part of qatar to support such an investigation or is it just an investigation because people really want to know what happened to their leader and they want justice to be you know achieved a murder inquiry into arafat's death comes as the u.n. prepares to vote on whether palestine should receive nonmember observer status at the organization if approved it would mean international recognition of the palestinian state and give
an eight hour fatah saying it had nothing to gain from his demise and political analyst on monash b. says the new investigation into arafat's death could actually be used as a tool to cause a rift between rival palestinian political forces. if there is a poisoning of president arafat someone must have put the poison in his food or must have put his poison on his skin and to do that it must be someone from his clothes on to wash and to open this investigation would create disputes within the...
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as co-founder not just to yasser arafat but also khaleel with here was a co-founder of fatah he was assassinated by israel in one nine hundred eighty eight and for twenty five years basically there's been a secrecy over the killing and finally just the earlier this month israel has cleared that and the actual interviews with the commandos who kicked carried out that assassination have been published. police have clashed with anti muslim brotherhood protesters in cairo ahead of a massive opposition rally nationwide actions planned to oppose president mohamed morsi his latest decree seen as a blatant polygraph the president made himself and islam as a dummy to the upper house of parliament immune to any kind of oversight including from those of the courts he claims of the measures will only replace until a new constitution is drawn up which is expected within two months most his opponents say they will see an illusion he reverses the new law journalist belching is watching the situation in the egyptian capital. apart from saying that he isn't effective wish to show authority which is
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explosion in tel aviv brings the confrontation with gaza to the heart of a zero with four rivals hamas and fatah reportedly claiming responsibility. while dozens more israeli strikes on the occupied territory take the body count in gaza over one hundred forty destroyed lifeline tunnels and government buildings. and the you are sick lies and wavering support for israel after sinking a un resolution calling for a cease fire raising questions over the in the over own truce initiative. international news live from moscow this is all she with me thanks for joining us the harsh reality of war is being felt in tel aviv today were a bus explosion has left fifteen people injured already labeled a terror attack the explosion is said to have taken place near the israeli army's headquarters israeli authorities are now hunting for two people thought to be involved in the bombing. reports not far from where the blast took place. now the police have told us that what they think happened is that one of these two placed a bag with a bomb on the bus and then immediately ran off the whole of tel aviv is in shut do
explosion in tel aviv brings the confrontation with gaza to the heart of a zero with four rivals hamas and fatah reportedly claiming responsibility. while dozens more israeli strikes on the occupied territory take the body count in gaza over one hundred forty destroyed lifeline tunnels and government buildings. and the you are sick lies and wavering support for israel after sinking a un resolution calling for a cease fire raising questions over the in the over own truce initiative....
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when israel came out and for the first time military censors allowed information about the killing of fatah co-founder not just to yasser arafat but also khaleel with fear was a co-founder of fatah he was assassinated by israel in one nine hundred eighty eight and for twenty five years basically there's been the secrecy over the killing and finally just the earlier this month israel has a clear that and the actual interviews with the commandos who kick carried out that assassination have been published. always played it. for more stories pictures and analysis on line right now for you apocalypse ready we've got the story of how some enterprising companies are offering everything necessary to survive the end of the world. with their prisoners occupied part of their compound in the russian urals demanding an improvement in standards and the release of some inmates held in solitary confinement. a former u.k. defense minister has come up with an extreme way to curb violence in afghanistan and pakistan he wants to drop a neutron bomb on the country's border well earlier i spoke to our to go abou
when israel came out and for the first time military censors allowed information about the killing of fatah co-founder not just to yasser arafat but also khaleel with fear was a co-founder of fatah he was assassinated by israel in one nine hundred eighty eight and for twenty five years basically there's been the secrecy over the killing and finally just the earlier this month israel has a clear that and the actual interviews with the commandos who kick carried out that assassination have been...
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tel aviv brings big confrontation with gaza to the heart of israel with a board of rivals hamas and fatah reportedly claiming responsibility. while dozens more was ready to strike on the occupied territory if the politics of the one hundred and destroying lifeline tunnels and government building. and the you are declared an unwavering support for israel are sinking a un resolution calling for a cease fire raising questions are the challenges of the increase in a. new song russia and around the world this is see with me hugh nash above all or thanks for joining us the harsh reality of war is being felt in tel aviv today where a bus explosion has left fifteen people injured already labeled a terror target the explosion is said to have taken place near the israeli army's headquarters israeli authorities are now hunting for two people thought to be involved in the bombing and she's point to clear reports now not far from where the blast took place. now the police have told us that what they think happened is that one of these two placed a bag with a bomb on the bus and then immediately ran no
tel aviv brings big confrontation with gaza to the heart of israel with a board of rivals hamas and fatah reportedly claiming responsibility. while dozens more was ready to strike on the occupied territory if the politics of the one hundred and destroying lifeline tunnels and government building. and the you are declared an unwavering support for israel are sinking a un resolution calling for a cease fire raising questions are the challenges of the increase in a. new song russia and around the...
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was exhibited just so they could take tissue samples for the investigation into allegations that are fatah may have been poisoned his remains have now been reburying in ramallah artie's middle east correspondent policia has more. chouse day the body of the former palestinian leader yasser arafat was removed from it's where it's been for the better part of eight years since he died back in two thousand and four and since that time the question has never been on syria to hear exactly what exactly killed our five most how this thing is believe that israel was behind his killing although israel has repeatedly i'm consistently denied this at the time of his due if there was radioactive material that was found on his clothing what we witnessing now is an investigation that is seeing a team of international investigators take samples of these tissues they will lead any case to gauge and various countries around the world will be told that it will take several months but then hopefully one simple there will be an answer to the question as to what exactly killed the former palestinian leader when w
was exhibited just so they could take tissue samples for the investigation into allegations that are fatah may have been poisoned his remains have now been reburying in ramallah artie's middle east correspondent policia has more. chouse day the body of the former palestinian leader yasser arafat was removed from it's where it's been for the better part of eight years since he died back in two thousand and four and since that time the question has never been on syria to hear exactly what exactly...
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the palestinian both factions, hamas, and fatah are talking about some sort of coalition. think you're going to see some movement. obviously at any point the extremists, particularly those that are actually to the more radical than hamas could seek to destabilize the situation. >> you brought up fatah. and they've been called powerless, impotent, a lot during the conflict over the last ten days or so, and criticized in some cases by members of hamas in some islamists in the region. on cnn yesterday, there was a quote from a member of hamas talking about thepalestinian authority and fatah. let's listen. >> i think people feel now that the only way which can proceed to work is resistance. becau because -- >> does the palestinian authority have any power, any more, to negotiate, are they just an empty suit? >> no, they do have -- they do have power, but again they don't have, you know, the popular support in gaza that's necessary to enforce or bring any large-scale deal along. so it's really a bifurcated government. but if we're going to be negotiated with palestinis, you can
the palestinian both factions, hamas, and fatah are talking about some sort of coalition. think you're going to see some movement. obviously at any point the extremists, particularly those that are actually to the more radical than hamas could seek to destabilize the situation. >> you brought up fatah. and they've been called powerless, impotent, a lot during the conflict over the last ten days or so, and criticized in some cases by members of hamas in some islamists in the region. on cnn...
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>> well, hamas is in a political tug of war with fatah and wants to demonstrate the relevance. the united nations in the near days to talk about the observed status with the united nations, and seeks a peaceful resolution for a two-state solution, and hamas does not want a two-state solution, and they want the remind the palestinian people that they want a one-state resolution whether it is plausible or not. and the timing here is related to the upcoming fatah political gambit at the united nations, and hamas wants to remain relevant. now a second issue is that hamas as the de facto political leadership in gaza is trying to break the blockade that israel imposed on gaza a number of years ago and that is obviously part of the ongoing political effort. >> p.j. crowley, sir, thank you for coming on this morning because we appreciate your time and insights. >> thank you. >>> and ever since the recognition of the jewish state, israel security has been a policy priority for administrations from jimmy carter to bill clinton to george bush and presidents actively intervened with the mi
>> well, hamas is in a political tug of war with fatah and wants to demonstrate the relevance. the united nations in the near days to talk about the observed status with the united nations, and seeks a peaceful resolution for a two-state solution, and hamas does not want a two-state solution, and they want the remind the palestinian people that they want a one-state resolution whether it is plausible or not. and the timing here is related to the upcoming fatah political gambit at the...
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, you're right, martin, has played the role of mubarak and hamas is agreeing to play the group the fatah once played in policing the gaza trip. but if that's all that we have, which is a passy fide gaza under the control of hamas and a passy fide control of fatah and no peace we're waiting for the next round of violence and that's where diplomacy has to start and become very vigorous, is to get us off this dime that we're on right now, waiting for the next catastrop catastrophe. >> jim, you're expressing the frustration of palestinians and dare i say israelis as well, that the peace negotiations, the peace track, whatever you want to call it, has been absolutely dormant and you can blame the fact of weakened palestinian leadership, benign neglect from this administration or the prior administration or the decisions that went into the elections premature some said back then when hamas actually defeated or gathered more votes. there was a lot of blame. we can go back decades or thousands of years. what now has to happen to get past this immediate crisis and to some point where there is a r
, you're right, martin, has played the role of mubarak and hamas is agreeing to play the group the fatah once played in policing the gaza trip. but if that's all that we have, which is a passy fide gaza under the control of hamas and a passy fide control of fatah and no peace we're waiting for the next round of violence and that's where diplomacy has to start and become very vigorous, is to get us off this dime that we're on right now, waiting for the next catastrop catastrophe. >> jim,...
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>> rose: do you believe that somehow the pressure for palestinian unity will bring them hamas and fatah together? >> i hope so. >> i don't know. >> i wish that were the case. i wish our government were wiesner that regard. i wish israel were wiesner this regard. they want to negotiate with all of the palestinians. >> rose: is this not of interest, elliott? to have one palestinian authority? >> well, the problem is that, yeah, it is in interest of israel as long as it is not a terrorist led palestinian authority. i don't think you are going to see that kind of union at this, they have tried it before after the mecca agreement in 2007, it lasts for a month, four months, five months the problem between hamas and fatah isn't israel or the united states it is the fatah guys and hamas hate each other and have a long history of killing each other. we are not interfering in that. they are doing that themselves. both things are true. >> both things there are true. there is a great deal of hostility between them and we have been interfering in that so both things happen to be view. >> rose: what
>> rose: do you believe that somehow the pressure for palestinian unity will bring them hamas and fatah together? >> i hope so. >> i don't know. >> i wish that were the case. i wish our government were wiesner that regard. i wish israel were wiesner this regard. they want to negotiate with all of the palestinians. >> rose: is this not of interest, elliott? to have one palestinian authority? >> well, the problem is that, yeah, it is in interest of israel as...
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this is an emblem the fatah put together a year or two ago showing israel where a picture of arafat and- rifle. this is not an emblem of peace, so the palestinian authority is not serious about peace. they say in speech after speech, if the arabs want war against israel, we will join them. israel has to wait until ta changes before state hood can be confirmed. >> when i was in israel just few months ago and went into the palestinian territories in the west bank and i was with a bunch of children, little boys, and i asked them what they wanted to be, they said i want to fight israel, then dentist, what else their dreams might have been. does morton have a point? >> well, there's a conflict here. there are two peoples that have been at war for over 100 years and we're going to make peace with our enemies, not with our friends and the only splugs o this fight, a fight between two people over one piece of land is to figure out how to share the land or else we're going keep on killing each other. so the two-state solution is the only way for israel to have long-term and short-term security a
this is an emblem the fatah put together a year or two ago showing israel where a picture of arafat and- rifle. this is not an emblem of peace, so the palestinian authority is not serious about peace. they say in speech after speech, if the arabs want war against israel, we will join them. israel has to wait until ta changes before state hood can be confirmed. >> when i was in israel just few months ago and went into the palestinian territories in the west bank and i was with a bunch of...
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the fatah supporters waved yell row flags. egyptian president mohammed morsi issued an executive order preventing any branch from egypt's government challenging laws or declarations made since he took power. morsi also fired egypt's attorney general and ordered the retrial of officials involved in violence against protesters during last year's revolution. i'm gary tuckman at the cnn center in atlanta. next, the world according to lance armstrong. >>> tonight disgraced cycling legend lance armstrong defends himself at length under oath. first seen on australian network abc, this investigation by reporter quinton mcdermott features armstrong in his only on-camera deposition ever, passionately denying the repeated use of performance-enhancing drugs. friends, former teammates, and experts provide damning evidence against armstrong despite his vigorous denials. >> reporter: a moment of triumph. now turned epic disgrace. the united states anti-doping agency says that lance armstrong was a drug cheat. part of an organized conspiracy
the fatah supporters waved yell row flags. egyptian president mohammed morsi issued an executive order preventing any branch from egypt's government challenging laws or declarations made since he took power. morsi also fired egypt's attorney general and ordered the retrial of officials involved in violence against protesters during last year's revolution. i'm gary tuckman at the cnn center in atlanta. next, the world according to lance armstrong. >>> tonight disgraced cycling legend...
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the factions of fatah and hamas are at lauger heads. who's egypt and israel supposed to be an honest broker with trying to get the safety of these innocent people, the palestinians trying to go around about their daily lives, living in terrible conditions within gaza. >> you hit upon one of the most important issues that have played out in 48 hours where abbas, the palestinian authority, and the west bank have been completely cut out of this process. it's very clear that hamas is the palestinian power. i think that for the palestinian people, it's been a long, hard road that fatah and hamas have not had good relations. you have a split palestinian people but i think mahmoud abbas is really on his back foot now because the palestinian authority and the west bank representatives have really been cut out of the process almost entirely an they're facing borderline irrelevance and i think questions will be raised in the palestinian community itself of who is our government? who is our leader? when we talk about palestinians, who are we talki
the factions of fatah and hamas are at lauger heads. who's egypt and israel supposed to be an honest broker with trying to get the safety of these innocent people, the palestinians trying to go around about their daily lives, living in terrible conditions within gaza. >> you hit upon one of the most important issues that have played out in 48 hours where abbas, the palestinian authority, and the west bank have been completely cut out of this process. it's very clear that hamas is the...
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it was palestinian controlled but then hamas wrestled that control away from fatah that controls thegly now they have their own small jihadist groups inside gaza to find hamas' authority there. the west bank, mahmoud abbas, hamas elements here as well, but this is where the fatah stronghold, they're the ones -- the oechbl way they want to push negotiations is if they get elevated status at the u.n. that's why we saw mahmoud abbas in europe this week trying to persuade them for support. the palestinians say, we're getting nowhere. they just announced another 1200 homes to be built in east jerusalem. >> when we're looking, we're talking about roberts going from here -- >> all the way to here. >> when we say it went towards tel-aviv but went in the walter, this is why p. thf these are not missiles. in other words, they're not putting a grild and target and firing it with accuracy. they're rockets. >> how far are we talking here? >> you're talking more than 40 kilometers and they're aiming to increase the range even more. they're getting this technology from the ukraine and from russia.
it was palestinian controlled but then hamas wrestled that control away from fatah that controls thegly now they have their own small jihadist groups inside gaza to find hamas' authority there. the west bank, mahmoud abbas, hamas elements here as well, but this is where the fatah stronghold, they're the ones -- the oechbl way they want to push negotiations is if they get elevated status at the u.n. that's why we saw mahmoud abbas in europe this week trying to persuade them for support. the...
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would acknowledge that israel can say we didn't have anyone to negotiate with because we has hamas, fatah, two factions that could not come together. >> at the end of the day, this is about land. and as i said, the israelis are the only party that's able to, through their capacity, through their use of force to change the landscape. and so, you know, we could talk about the peace process and different stances over time. the reality is, if the israelis believed in a two-state solution, the outcome of which is a viable contiguous palestinian state on 22% of the territory, they would not be continuing to take more and more of that territory. that posture that colonial posture, sends a message to palestinians israelis are not interested in a palestinian state living side by side with them. >> talk to me about what you perceive to be the failures of the president in the first term and what you hope for in the second term. >> i think we have to understand that this president is just like all presidents before him, a president that is abound by domestic interests and domestic constraints here in
would acknowledge that israel can say we didn't have anyone to negotiate with because we has hamas, fatah, two factions that could not come together. >> at the end of the day, this is about land. and as i said, the israelis are the only party that's able to, through their capacity, through their use of force to change the landscape. and so, you know, we could talk about the peace process and different stances over time. the reality is, if the israelis believed in a two-state solution, the...
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most of the demonstrators are supporters of fatah. today's won the approval of rival militant fashions there was support in hamas controlled gaza. after being marginalized during the recent conflict between israel and gaza the palestinian president is for today at least a hero among the palestinian people. the question though that is yet to be answered, what will the long-term impact be of today's vote israelis and many palestinians concede for the most part it is largely symbolic. shepard? >> shepard: david lee miller live in jerusalem tonight. domestic issues here at home and republic leaders say we are now in more danger of falling off the fiscal cliff on new year's day. that would mean automatic spending cuts and the expiration of tax cuts for most americans. president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real sp
most of the demonstrators are supporters of fatah. today's won the approval of rival militant fashions there was support in hamas controlled gaza. after being marginalized during the recent conflict between israel and gaza the palestinian president is for today at least a hero among the palestinian people. the question though that is yet to be answered, what will the long-term impact be of today's vote israelis and many palestinians concede for the most part it is largely symbolic. shepard?...
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mahmoud abbas and his fatah faction.eaders were supposed to be the moderate peace brokers. now they can't even claim to speak for all palestinians, and proved they have no leverage with hamas. >> this is not a good outcome for abbas and not a good outcome for the pursuit of a two-state solution. >> reporter: and always a player, iran's hand is arguably weakened after this episode. iron dome shot hundreds of its missiles out of the sky. what if israel attacks iran? can it still call on hamas to retaliate? one week with one truce, with allies and enemies in the region have shifted again. and this will have an impact on any peace negotiations going forward. paula newton cnn, atlanta. >>> hamas is touting itself as the big winner in the more than week-long battle against israel, but it may have suffered a mainly game-changing loss in the violence. our brian todd is joining us now with details. we're talking about a loss of leadership here. >> that's right, joe. you know the irony here is hamas' loss at the hands of the israe
mahmoud abbas and his fatah faction.eaders were supposed to be the moderate peace brokers. now they can't even claim to speak for all palestinians, and proved they have no leverage with hamas. >> this is not a good outcome for abbas and not a good outcome for the pursuit of a two-state solution. >> reporter: and always a player, iran's hand is arguably weakened after this episode. iron dome shot hundreds of its missiles out of the sky. what if israel attacks iran? can it still call...
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are massive reconciliation at reunification attempts rather excuse me in central gaza city between fatah between hamas between other factions p f l p for example as well so what's happened is seeing is these military operations against israel over the wall over the water fairly unified they stood together the military groups and the minutes and groups now after the war they're now getting towards a political position of doing the same thing less less fragmented ok i mean it's very interesting this is the second time they've tried to destroy hamas and they have failed i mean to come out of this. well again i think precisely because of that it comes out strengthened and terry just mentioned the reconsolidation efforts which one hopes have also been given a significant boost by this except that there may be now forces within hamas who feel that they have been so strengthened by the events of this last week in combination with the regional changes that you're on refer to those elements may conclude you know why pay a price for something that we can get for free later on the basis of their as
are massive reconciliation at reunification attempts rather excuse me in central gaza city between fatah between hamas between other factions p f l p for example as well so what's happened is seeing is these military operations against israel over the wall over the water fairly unified they stood together the military groups and the minutes and groups now after the war they're now getting towards a political position of doing the same thing less less fragmented ok i mean it's very interesting...
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especially israel if fatah and hamas are not on the same page? >> today, former prime minister, there's a huge debate in israel. former prime minister, israeli prime minister said publicly that he supports this bid. that this bid actually enhances a two-state eventual solution. five members of the head secret service. five former head secret service in israel, they said that we need to negotiate as israel as anybody. this is what will guarantee our security. and include hamas in this negotiation. they said it over and over. look, there's no military solution for this conflict. it's only a political solution and settlement. if we don't meet the palestinian aspiration for freedom, democracy and dignity and sovereign state, we will always have this conflict and we'll always have violence. if we will not empower mahmoud abbas, we automatically empower the other side. israel has been negotiating with hamas on the soldier that was kidn kidnapped, on the last conflict we had a week ago. if they want hamas to slowly, slowly -- if they want the palestinia
especially israel if fatah and hamas are not on the same page? >> today, former prime minister, there's a huge debate in israel. former prime minister, israeli prime minister said publicly that he supports this bid. that this bid actually enhances a two-state eventual solution. five members of the head secret service. five former head secret service in israel, they said that we need to negotiate as israel as anybody. this is what will guarantee our security. and include hamas in this...
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the united nations where the palestinians are seeking some legitimacy, the other palestinians, the fatah wing, mahmoud abbas is coming to new york to have a vote in the general assembly which will be a largely symbolic vote on statehood, especially after hamas has flexed its muscles and said military and not diplomacy is the way to legitimacy internationally, it seems loom foolhardy on the part of the palestinians. >> first of all, what's going on, you're president abbas, you've just been seen to be basically irrelevant to what's going on. supposedly gaza, which is part of any palestinian state, you have no influence or control over. so this is also a way to remind everybody that he's still there. now, the problem with it is, is that it is symbolic. it doesn't advance the cause of peace or palestinian interest but it's his way of trying to demonstrate relevancy. the real question is, is there a way to get beyond this so we get away from what's purely symbolic and move on what is substantive? as long as we're focused on symbols, we see a perpetuation of the palestinian history which leads
the united nations where the palestinians are seeking some legitimacy, the other palestinians, the fatah wing, mahmoud abbas is coming to new york to have a vote in the general assembly which will be a largely symbolic vote on statehood, especially after hamas has flexed its muscles and said military and not diplomacy is the way to legitimacy internationally, it seems loom foolhardy on the part of the palestinians. >> first of all, what's going on, you're president abbas, you've just been...
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you don't have to travel fatah with most of collusion between community and comus family and industry we all take risks every day driving to work you know but there's risks that you have to take and recess you don't have to take and to me it just doesn't make sense to put a heavy industrial process right next to somebody's house. this is south like a prosperous community on the outskirts of dallas. a few years ago forbes magazine named this the most affluent neighborhood in the united states. a place where usually money talks. but right now the talks all about the riches of the bonnet shale field underneath suburbs like south like. home to dr gordon and expand. as are so many things we don't know about this process and that's really what became most fridays the things that are being generated during the fracking process we know have the potential to cause things like a napkin and benzene which we know are linked to the female we know are linked to cancers and other types of neurological disorders. the emergency room doctor and his band of suburban activists often get a hit at the loca
you don't have to travel fatah with most of collusion between community and comus family and industry we all take risks every day driving to work you know but there's risks that you have to take and recess you don't have to take and to me it just doesn't make sense to put a heavy industrial process right next to somebody's house. this is south like a prosperous community on the outskirts of dallas. a few years ago forbes magazine named this the most affluent neighborhood in the united states. a...
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you know rival palestinian party fatah in the face of the israeli threat that's amid growing skepticism over the possibility of achieving a truce in the region. i think it's extremely likely that if a ceasefire is a restrike now and the terms are the kind that have been discussed so frequently which is essentially calm for calm in the same kind of cease fire that has been brokered repeatedly in the last couple of years. than that of course it is not sustainable and it will be broken just as the previous ones had and egypt and the u.s. and israel and hamas everyone will find themselves in this situation again very shortly . as israel pounds gaza with air strikes in the occupied territories palestinian protesters clashed with israeli police israeli authorities and demonstrators in various spots across the west bank in the village of. allegedly started by jewish settlers. to support palestinians in gaza. the latest israeli palestinian violence has also led to protests across the world activists and demonstrators a number of countries have rallied to decry the deaths and demand an immediate
you know rival palestinian party fatah in the face of the israeli threat that's amid growing skepticism over the possibility of achieving a truce in the region. i think it's extremely likely that if a ceasefire is a restrike now and the terms are the kind that have been discussed so frequently which is essentially calm for calm in the same kind of cease fire that has been brokered repeatedly in the last couple of years. than that of course it is not sustainable and it will be broken just as the...