>> i think father reese can relate stories like this, too.en in airports where people say are you a catholic priest? and i'm braced for what that's going to mean. i say yes. he says we like your pope, i like your pope. i have been confronted with that regularly. the embrace of god, we call our church the catholic church which means it's the universal church. it is the message of god's love for all people, and if i'm not mistaken, the gospel tonight is taken from luke, and this is where jesus says who do people say that i am? and i think the pope is going to preach a very effective message about christ being the son of god who comes to bring the fulfillment of human meaning to the whole world. jo ling: that is indeed a message that he has been preaching and sharing throughout his time as he's been speaking to congress and in the united nations this morning, and then of course now at a very highly anticipated mass at madison square garden. dr. king, as the pope francis wraps up his time in new york city and heads to philadelphia, he'll be atten

also joining us is father thomas reese, national catholic reporter in washington, senior analyst with them. father, taking all of this in this afternoon, tell me your thoughts as you watch this first day in america for the pope. what are your reflections? >> it's been a very moving day from his initial visit to the white house with president obama where he described himself as the son of immigrant parents to his raising up certain issues like climate change and the environment to now him being a true pastor, celebrating the eucharist with his people, talking about the joy of the gospel which he so clearly epitomizes. he doesn't like preachers to be sour pusses. he really has experienced the love, the compassion of god and people who are in love are smiling and are happy. and that's what he wants the christian people to be, to be smiling and happy as they proclaim god's love for all of his people so that we can be inclusive, so that we can reach out to people, so that we can be a healing presence in the world. >> there are families there, children there. i'm just watching on another mo

father reese is right. this is someone that draws people in. >> he's done similar things on a number of other occasions. >> and i imagine spooked his security detail the whole time. >> i'm sure he has. security is very tight. let's go to libby case there. i don't know if you can see the pope yet, libby, but what about the crowd you're seeing? >> we can see the pope arriving. the motorcade is pulling around, and the crowd here is watching this on a big television screen and there's so many cheers going up and so much excitement over him arriving and what's about to take place. he will go inside the basilica and prepare for the mass, and then we'll start in about a half hour or so. you know, there's actually a stained glass of father serra, junipero serra, who is this mass is canonizing in the sacresty where the pope will put on his garments for the mass. he's have a moment with that stained glass before coming out and greeting tens of thousands of people that dpa gathered her today at the basilica. we talked

national catholic reporter and father reese, thank you for being with us this morning. >> good to be with you. >> great to see you. what did the pope hope to accomplish with this visit to the united states? >> well, i think that the visit was both a pastoral visit and a prophetic visit. as a pastor he came to pray and worship with the catholic people and preach the gospel, which for him means telling us about god's love and compassion towards us and our responsibility to love our neighbor, especially the poor. but then he also had a prophetic message, a challenge to all of us, and there he spoke about our need to be more welcoming to immigrants and refugees, to be concerned about the poor, and to care and protect the environment, our common home, the earth. >> you call it prophetic but there are a lot of people who also called it political. obviously the pope has been a long-time advocate for the poor. he's had major criticisms of the environment and economy. he's tweeted things like inequality is the root of social evil. how do you think pope francis feels about capitalism? >> well,

father reese, it's good to have you on the program. what do you think that the pope wants to achieve from his trip? >> i think the pope is coming both as a pastor and a prophet. as a pastor he wants to pray with his people, celebrate th eucres and teach the gospel. but he also comes as a prophet. that means he's going to challenge us. he's going bring up some issues that we may not want to face. i think, for example, the whole question of immigration and how we--whether or not we're going to welcome immigrants, and whether we're welcoming refugees. clearly he is as also concerned about the poor, and he wants to protect the environment. these are issues that are controversial among some americans. >> so he not only goes to church, he not only preaches the gospel and says mass, he also goes to the united nations and joint session of the united states congress. why is that so important? >> i think it's extremely important. some people think that the only thing in a the chit churc that the catholic church is about is what happens in the be

joining us again, father thomas reese, jesuit priest with us here in philadelphia, father edward beck, and cnn senior vatican analyst john allen. as we take a look, we'll be pulling up some of the live pictures for you throughout this discussion. as you can see the pope's motorcade coming to independence hall. let me start with you, father beck. two things striking, this message of having to put a stop to what the pope calls the globalization of indifference, and he talks about that in the context of immigration, whether it is the migrants and the refugees in europe or the immigration fight here. given the fact the pope's first trip outside of rome was the island in the midst of the migrant crisis, what do you expect to hear from him here on immigration? >> it's so funny you bring that up. i was going to say exactly that, how symbolic his actions speak even louder than his words. he goes to where they are flooding in from africa and says everybody needs a homeland to be accepted. but today what happens, he leaves the heliport in manhattan and flying over the statue of liberty and elli

we have lauren green the religion correspondent for fox and in washington, father reese with the nationals showing a message of tolerance and inclusive style. "new york times", humble pope challenging the world. how much of the impact is due to the way the media cover him? >> the great deal, the med is having an identity crisis were they like his personal touches, the humble appeal but they ignore the things that are much more conservative. remember the phrase, catholics don't need to breed like rabbits, everyone knew about that. but weeks later, how many reported on the fact he said the choice of not to have children is selfish. no one heard that. this is the problem with covering pope francis, they like liberal things, they like the appealing of them but ignore what sounds like straight out of the his playbook. >> father reese when the pope talks about climate change or talks about easing the fast tracking of marriage annulments and when he talks about a year where it is easier for women to be forgiven or absolved for having an abortion that get as lot of play in the press but do the mo

. >> reporter: father thomas reese is with the "national catholic reporter." >> anti-catholicism in a sense died with john kennedy. john kennedy became an american hero. anti-catholicism to rest. >> reporter: more than a decade passed before another pope visited the u.s. in 1979 pope john paul ii traveled to six cities and delivered over 50 speeches and sermons. the final stop was in washington where he visited the white house by invitation of president jimmy carter. >> only a devout baptist president could invite the pope to come and visit the white house. >> was he well received or was there still some fear of a pope coming to washington? >> the church was changing by that time, and americans in general, who were very anti-communist, saw the papacy, saw the pope, saw john paul as an ally of the united states against communism. >> reporter: in a 1987 tour of america pope john paul spoke on human rights. in san francisco he blessed catholic aids patients. in detroit he preached against abortion. a message he continued to deliver in a 1993 address in denver and his final address in st.

father reese says his message could also ruffle some feathers. >> this pope is concerned about the poore environment, and is he critical of libertarian capitalism? so he's not afraid of challenging people. and sometimes when he challenges people they get mad. >> you expect him to challenge congress? >> i don't see how he can't. >> reporter: according to one recent major study, the number of catholics in america has been steadily decreasing in recent years. but u.s. catholic leaders hope this visit by pope francis will help turn that trend in the other direction. >> pope francis is the only world leader who plunges into crowds like this. he demands freedom. and he explained why when we visited the vatican last week. >> what is your goal for america? >> [ speaking spanish ]. >> reporter: "to meet people," he told us. but his desire for freedom is exactly what worries the man who stands at the right fender of the father. erst britenmozer is a sergeant in the 500-year-old swiss guard, the pope's bodyguards. >> we cannot be like a wall around him. so as he is a pastor, he loves to be a pasto

. >> reporter: father thomas reese is with the "national catholic reporter." >> anti-catholicism in ahn kennedy. john kennedy became an american hero. so his assassination kind of put anti-catholicism to rest. >> reporter: more than a decade passed before another pope visited the u.s. in 1979 pope john paul ii traveled to six cities and delivered over 50 speeches and sermons. the final stop was in washington where he visited the white house by invitation of president jimmy carter. >> only a devout baptist president could invite the pope to come and visit the white house. >> was he well received or was there still some fear of a pope coming to washington? >> the church was changing by that time, and americans in general, who were very anti-communist, saw the papacy, saw the pope, saw john paul as an ally of the united states against communism. >> reporter: in a 1987 tour of america pope john paul spoke on human rights. in san francisco he blessed catholic aids patients. in detroit he preached against abortion. a message he continued to deliver in a 1993 address in denver and his final

paul valalee, author, and ed mcguire, and father thomas reese, senior analyst for the catholic reporter and author of inside the vatican the politics and organization of the catholic church. paul valalee, let me start with you. the pope in his career in the church his previous life as a cardinal and a bishop has never been to the united states yet he showed some familiarity with the history and culture of the united states in his speech. do you have to go to school on america before you come here because of the prominence of the stage and the bright lights of the world's media? >> well there's no doubt that he did his homework before he came. but he started by saying, we americans, we from the south of america, as well as we from the north. and that very much set the tone. because he said that he was an immigrant son as so many people are who founded the united states of america. and he was making common cause, in that way. so he was trying to not say that he was an outsider who had had to study america. but he was saying he was part of the understanding of this place, and that we have

tonight, father reese, good to have you with us here again.re do we even begin with all of the topics that the pope covered while in new york city on this amazing day where he went from end to end. what do you take away from this visit in new york? what will people remember when he leaves? >> it's been a fantastic visit. i think people will always remember his pope mobile trip through central park, they'll remember his visit to the united nations and of course his prayer service with all the various religious leaders down there at the site of the 9/11 tragedy. all of this i think made for a spectacular visit, a very moving visit of the pope to new york. >> some of the big issues he talked about, the arms trade, sustainable development, nuclear proliferation, how do you think that the other world cleared take, what do they do with this information regardless of their faith? >> well, it was a very interesting speech that he gave to the united nations. it was a real endorsement of the united nations. but enough of talk we need to get on to real a

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joining me now, father thomas reese, senior analyst for the national catholic reporter. you so much, father, for your time. >> good to be with you. >> it's an interesting time to have this decision. a, obviously his big trip to the united states, and the big story of the day with what's happening with the county clerk in kentucky as it relates to her religion and what she sees as her moral compass in life. nevertheless, we're so long from famous lawmakers down the line. we've seen people being told they couldn't take communion, that the process of annullment was very long and complicated and now we could see a change here. >> well, i think what we see is, again, pope francis wanting to stress the compassion and love of god. he talks about the church as a field hospital that binds up the wounds of people, and i think he wants people who have suffered through some kind of a marriage breakup to be able to have some way of being reconciled with the church. and this speeding up of the annullment process, making it simpler, i believe, is a step in that direction. it's going to

>> as father reese points out. pope francis didn't stop there. >> not only did he pray at the security wall, but then he prayed at the temple wall. >> days later, the pope hosted israeli president perez palestinian president abbas. >> pope francis has done very well. >> the pope's been angling for key players in the syrian civil war, bashar al assad and putin to come to the table to negotiate a solution. on cuba, the pope provided political cover for both sides worried about furious critics against thawing relations. >> in an unassuming way, he has taken on the world issues, the plight of migrants, human trafficking and income inequality. >> i think he's going to talk about war and peace, reconciliation and raise up the refugees in italy, europe and africa. these people need our help. >> when he speaks, his focus is likely to be the richer nations in europe and united states, urging collective consciences to do more. >> easy going to say you have a moral responsibility for your brothers and sisters all over the wor

laura: for more on the address, i spoke a short time ago to father thomas reese, a senior analyst athe national catholic reporter. to congress.spoke was he being deliberately diplomatic knowing that he was addressing a divided house? >> i think so. i think he had certain things he wanted to make as his point, but i think he was very smart and brilliant in the way he gave that address because he started by affirming the good things in america -- freedom, liberty, progress that people have made here, the way people's dreams have then fulfilled by coming to america. "but you cand into do more and let's keep going." he was very specific on the refugee crisis, telling americans not to be taken aback by the numbers. >> very much so. i was touched by the way he identified himself as the son of an immigrant family. it's very personal for him. he knows what it's like to be the child of immigrants. i love the way he used the golden rule. put your shoes -- laura: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. >> absolutely. walk in the same shoes as these people. if you were fleeing violenc

congress, he spoke against polarization where we treat people as friends and enemies >> all right, father reese, i am so sorry to interrupt you, we appreciate you, we have to go, making money with charles payne starts right now. >> thank you very much. we do have pope francis, who has just arrived at madison squarmadison square guarden moments ago and he will celebrate mass with the 20,000 you are looking at it, it is a packed house, the mass will be celebrated in latin, spanish, and english and in addition there will be prayers to the faithful, they're going to be offered in several languages as well, including polish, german, and italian. of course he was just in central park there, 80,000 people greeted him along the way. before that he was at our queens and angels elementary school, in east harlem and that's in madison square guarden. and we have a packed house for this historic visit along with a lot of other news and we have to start with the pope. and i want to introduce first father michael manning out of los angeles, the word in the world hosts. father manning, again, every single day

joining me from washington, father tom reese of the national catholic reporter. we expect from the pope? what is the significance of this visit at this time? >> well, the pope is coming as a pastor and a prophet. he's coming as a pastor to pray with his people, to preach the gospel, which for him means reminding us about how much god loves us and cares for us, and how we should respond to that love by loving one another, especially the poor. but he also comes with a challenge, as all prophets do. we're the richest and most powerful country in the world, and hose going to challenge us about how we use our power, how we use our wealth. are we a force for good in the world or are we a force for problems in the world. >> rose: let's talk about some of the people he'll meet. he'll go tohe congress. he'll use that as a fortowm speak to american politicians. >> yes. that is going to be a fascinating event because i imagine when he comes in and says, "you should welcome the immigrant. you should care for the poor. you should protect the environment," the democrats are go

lauren green is here, and here in washington father thomas reese. and lauren green, the pope has mesmerized much in the world, myself included. "new york times" yesterday a huge piece, a humble pope challenging the world. so how much of his impact is due to the way the media covering him. >> i think the media is having a bit of an identity crisis. they like his personal touch, humble appeal, but they tent to ignore the things much more conservative. remember the phrase catholics don't need to breed like rabbits? everybody knew about that, but how many reported on the effect that he said the choices not to have children is selfish. this is the problem covering that. think like the liberal things, the things that appeal to them, but the things that are out pope benedict's playbook. >> when he talks about climate change, when the pope talks about easing sort of the fast tracking of marriage anullments, a year in which it's easier for women to be forgiven or absore for having an abortion. do some of the more conservative positions get minimized or ignor

. >> i want to bring in father thomas reese to this conversation. father, your take on the end of his remarks, he went along script, but what he said certainly struck me. he said, speaking to many of the immigrants in front of him, you bring many gifts to your new nation. you should never be ashamed. then once again he repeats that word, i repeat, do not be ashamed of what is part of you, your life's blood. that goes to where he went off script talking about how globalization is not bad, what can be bad is if it is in the form of taking away the richness of our individuality and making us all the same. what did that mean to you? >> in defense of immigrants, defense of religious freedom, but then he flips it and talks about the contribution that immigrants make to american society, the contributions that religious groups make to american society. so it's not just a demand for rights, it's also a call to recognize the gifts that these -- that religion gives, brings to american society, that the immigrants bring to american society. i love the line wher

and i spoke with father thomas reese, who said that what the pope is going to say here today, he will reference that he is a son of immigrants, so there will be a reference to immigration in a country of immigrants. and then a large section of his holiness' remarks will be about the environment. that he won't specifically reference climate change but our common home. those are the political under tones that this papal visit has under scored. certainly as those debates about climate change are front and center not only before congress but also in the presidential race. we can see sort of the diplomatic flourishes that are going on. charlie and gayle, i'll try to get you a program. >> thank you. >> this is how historic. really the president, mrs. obama welcomed his holiness, pope francis. one of the things in here other than the schedule of everything going on, they remind all of us that it's customary for all present to stand when honor rs rendered. just a reminder to everyone. this is the official program here. you will see that, if you can see the crowds here on the south lawn of the

whether this lasts is a great question and father tom reese who was on the program a few days ago put it really well. he said the test of this pope is going to be when someone goes into a catholic church are they going to find pope francis there, or not? and part of the mission of the pope while he was here i think was to lead by example. to teach by example. the many priests and bishops and nuns and maybe even theologians like me in the country, to put our focus somewhere different. if the church as a whole shifts then i think the way in which catholics and also noncatholics think about political issues will be different. i hope this isn't a flash in the pan but only time will tell. >> last question for you here patrick because we're almost out of time. what's next for had pope? how does he continue to deliver this message and how does he try to make an impact? >> so the very next thing adam is he's going to be convening the second assemblage of catholics, welcoming of gay and lesbian folks, that document was subsequent retracted but many church leaders have been calling on this pope

i asked father reese and said, is that the longest he's spoken in english. he said, once before in korea but not as long. and he's been practicing a great deal for this occasion. and i think it showed. >> it sure did. and it reminded me of a question, how many languages does the pope speak? >> i know. the number of languages that the pope speaks are three i am told. and then, obviously, at age 78, learning to speak english. if we could all do that at age 78, that would be great. >> you're absolutely right. monsinger, what do you think he thinks about all of this? >> gayle, he's been speaking about so many people touched by this day and never forgetting this day. i think the holy father is never going to forget this day. i think he'll be moved very much by this welcome. it's not his style. >> indeed. as the pope and the president go inside the white house, we go to major garrett with what they might be talking about inside. major? >> well, good morning. the pope's remarks were a prelude to the conversation the president and pope francis will have in the oval

. >> father thomas reese joins us now to talk about what's happening this week. he is the senior analyst for the national catholic reporter. father, thank you for joining us here on cnn. i just want to know what you think we should all make of the pope's u.s. visit so far, considering as warm as a welcome as he's received, conservatives in this country, they are less approving of him now than they were earlier this year. >> well, it's interesting. actually, most americans, most catholics love this pope. the people who don't like him are the conservative commentators on radio and television and the blogosphere. these are the people who are taking him on and attacking h him. these are people that only want the churnl to talk ant abortion, gay marriage and birth control. and this pope has got a much bigger agenda than that. he wants to talk about the poor, about immigrants and refugees. about globalization. and he wants to criticize capitalism. and of course, a big item on his agenda is concern about global warming and the environment. >> i'm just wondering if to it'

. >> reporter: i just spoke with father thomas reese who has seen his holiness' remarks and it's interestingpe francis speak in english which, of course, is not his native tongue and he has difficulty speaking in english. charlie and gayle i'm told he'll talk about being a son of immigrants. he's also going to talk about the environment. he's going to make a reference to cuba. while this is largely a pass toral visit the vatican keeps saying here to the united states there are certainly a lot of political overtones which will align him very closely with president obama's own agenda before he heads up to capitol hill tomorrow before a republican controlled congress. >> we will watch and wait for the pope come out and we'll follow him through the white house. with us here a theology professor of notre dame and cbs news papal news contributor the spiritual director of the north american college of rome. we're pleased to have both of them. here we have this pope. i'm impressed with one his energy. i'm impressed with his devotion to humility. i'm impressed with the idea of how people are so respo

father thomas reese said it can play to challenge us, to get us to think. he is doing that. the rap against tennessee is lecturing at the ranch. we don't know exactly what is going to say. we do know maybe he's got some goodies like climate change. should he do that question are >> part of the job is the pope is to be pathetic. profits convert their foot bed and afflict the comfortable. the job is to speak truth to power. this pope has seen poor people all over the world, refugees, the poverty in the third world. he wants to be a voice for those people. true, capitalism has brought some people out of poverty and enriched a lot of people. there's still millions and millions of people in dire poverty all of the world. to ignore these people is simply unacceptable. trying to weed out ignore these people. there is no way to live and there are donations from united states government. in other words, the money people made, not just the rich people but they come from hard working class immigrants who come here and send money back home. people don't go to poor countries in order to

. >> reporter: i just spoke with father thomas reese who has seen his holiness' remarks and it's interesting because we'll hear pope francis speak in english which, of course, is not his native tongue and he has difficulty speaking in english. charlie and gayle i'm told he'll talk about being a son of immigrants. he's also going to talk about the environment. he's going to make a reference to cuba. while this is largely a pass toral visit the vatican keeps saying here to the united states there are certainly a lot of political overtones which will align him very closely with president obama's own agenda before he heads up to capitol hill tomorrow before a republican controlled congress. >> we will watch and wait for the pope come out and we'll follow him through the white house. with us here a theology professor of notre dame and cbs news papal news contributor the spiritual director of the north american college of rome. we're pleased to have both of them. here we have this pope. i'm impressed with one his energy. i'm impressed with his devotion to humility. i'm impressed with the idea of h

. >> roger reese kibbe was born in 1941 and grew up in the national city navy projects outside san diego. kibbe tells investigators that his father, now deceased, was a naval officer who was rarely home and that as a young boy he was neglected by his mother, a woman he refers to as his dad's wife. >> she wasn't a good mother. i don't call her that. dad served 21 years in the navy, left me and my two brothers home with his wife. i told call her the "m" word, i don't have one. dad would come home from navy base late at night and 2, 3 years old, find me in the garden in a pair of diapers. why i'm out there, i don't know. >> he recognized that she was never good to him, wasn't warm, didn't take care of him, beat him, abused him, neglected him, and that, of course, is a source of his hostility toward women. >> going through elementary school, couldn't read or write. going through junior high, couldn't read or write. middle of the senior year, i was asked to leave school because i couldn't read or write. dad went to the principal and he was told that we'd just keep pushing him along and eventually they'd get it. eventually, it never go