i am deeply excited about this conversation we are about to enjoy between fatima jake and jennifer eitherdden history of a free black brotherhood. take it away. >> hello five thomas. i get for being with us, i am incredibly excited to have the chance to spread the word about this remarkable book which i have been talking with fatima about for some year now which has surpassed my every expectation being a work of history that has an enormous sweep, it covers a lot of ground, tremendous importance and yet is so readable and fun so i thought it was a very complex work and i thought maybe the best place to begin would be where you began fatima in york introduction. how has the book comes to be? it begins with your father really. >> thank you, jennifer and thank you for being here. my father found some journals into trash, you put them in the closet. in the 1950s and they sat there about 50 years. when i was looking for something to write about, i saw all of these journals and realize this is a really important part of history. >> can you describe, what are the journals and what is the organiz