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i faucied the situation here.s a little more subdued fat tuesday because -- >> definitely. >> pandemic. but we're still going to try to world news it up for you, here's a little good news on this fat tues. let's start it off. there was a chick-fil-a employee in wisconsin. we know they're known for excellent customer service. apparently, it's internal as well. so tanagucci was a worker who was bicycling to work. and co-workers found out about it. and they found out there was a raffle for the christmas party, and the top prize was going to be a car. so they all conspired that if anyone won they were going to give the winning ticket to her, but guess what. >> what happened? >> she didn't need it because she had the winning ticket. >> wow, that's pretty awesome right there. not bad at all. we know that dream moment came true when bridget's own name was called. wait, did this person, did they give away the car? >> let me -- correction, on air correction. actually, haley bridges, who was a co-worker who found out about

fauci. dr. fauci: thank you, david, i appreciate you having me on. >> with the biden administration now leading the federal response to the coronavirus pandemic, follow the latest at c-span.org /coronavirus. surf c-span's coverage of news conferences as well as remarks from members of congress. use the interactive gallery of maps to follow the cases in the u.s. and worldwide. go to c-span.org/coronavirus. >> the u.s. house is scheduled to begin work on a covid-19 relief plan this afternoon when they meet at about 5:00 eastern time. president biden's proposing a nearly $2 trillion plan. senate republicans want a smaller aid package. today's debate will start the process. it's expected to take a couple of days in the house. we'll have live, gavel-to-gavel coverage here on c-span. tonight at 9:30 eastern, the police officer who died in the january 6 attack on the capitol will lie in honor in the capitol rotunda. we'll have live coverage of that and the congressional tribute for officer brian sickni

fauci: exactly. you'll see much more involvement of the federal government than we saw in previous months where the states in so many respect were left on their own. we've got to get the synergy between the feds and the states, particularly some leadership by the federal government. david: let me ask you about the priorities for who gets vaccines. in the closing days of the previous administration, an order went out that people 65 and over should be the next traunch of eligible people after health care workers. that's been implemented in some states, some counties, it's a little bit of a hodgepodge. in terms of the basic science and medicine, do you think that makes sense now, to have 65 and older be the next benchmark across the country? dr. fauci: it depends where you're starting from. the first benchmark was people who are the health care providers and those in nursing homes and those taking care of them. then you went to 65 or 75 or older with the first one, then individuals having essential jobs

fauci. thanks for joining us. welcome. dr. fauci: thank you. good to be with you. david: every time we think we see some light at the end they have covid turtle we worry there's another train coming at us. i want to ask you to help us understand what we should worry about, what we should welcome and what we don't know enough about to have a clear view. so let me begin with this issue of the new variants of covid-19. you said on friday that these new variants, which appear to be more infectious, maybe more deadly, maybe harder to treat, could outnumber the old virus by march or april. i want to ask how concerned you are about these new variants and about the possibility that they might produce another surge of the virus that will be difficult to handle. dr. fauci: we take them very seriously, david. rna viruses, which sars coronavirus 2 is mutate readily and mutate much better when they replicate a lot, like when off lot of infection in the community. what we have seen evolve over the last f

leÓn: gracias a osvaldo y al doctor anthony fauci.ncluso algunos mitos puede llevar a la gente a tomar esa decisiÓn, pero las autoridades de salud quieren cambiar eso. para hablar con ese esfuerzo vamos a lanzarlo con la doctora. doctora, gracias por estar con nosotros. denos un diagnÓstico, ¿quÉ tan grave es el problema de las personas que a pesar de que tiene acceso las vacunas no se quieren vacunar? >> es muy desafortunado que las personas tomen informaciÓn incorrecta sobre la vacuna. quiero ser muy clara que esta vacuna es segura y efectiva de proteger a ti y a tu familia. si hay un gran nÚmero de doctores y expertos mÉdicos que ya han estudiado esta vacuna y la han determinado que es 95% efectiva para proteger al residente y a su familia. leÓn: en las estadÍsticas que ustedes tienen, lo que han estudiado, ¿quÉ tan grave es este problema desde el punto de vista estadÍstico? hay muchas personas de verdad que no quieren usar la vacuna? >> por ejemplo, el departamento de bomberos del condado de los Ángeles ha informado que tiene una

fauci. >> great question.me we get to the beginning of the fall, the fall school term, likely there will be enough evidence of the safety and of the efficacy of high school students. namely people from 12 up to 17 or 18. the trials on what's called an age deescalation from going to 12 to 9, 9 to 6, 6 to 2 and through six months to two years, that will likely be by the end of the year and more likely by first quarter of 2022. very likely ta young children in elementary school will be able to get the vaccine at the beginning of 2022. >> let's go to an interesting question from alberto in castro valley, california. he's one of the 28 million diagnosed with covid. >> as a person who suffered covid back in june 2020 and continue to deal with the linger effect such as fatigue, migraine, headaches, short ens of breath. how much dose, if any, of the vaccine do you recommend based on the current immunity within my body? >> dr. gibbons. >> it appears that he has wa we're calling the post-acute syndrome of covid-19 where

fauci is on thin ice. back with that. [♪♪♪] jesse: the american people have somehow handed over large parts of our lives to dr. anthony fauci. this is not a fauci bashing segment. we respect the doctor. but we are increasingly critical. i spoke to him last spring. are there other things you think you could have done to spare the country from a full economic shutdown. >> we felt at the time and still do now that that was the right thing to do. were there other approaches? i'm humble enough to think there could be. that was the decision we made based on the information we had. jesse: he is an unelected temperature ask leader with a narrow focus. his pronouncements have been all over the place. >> now in the united states people should not be walking around with masks. if one mask is good, two masks are better. >> travel restrictions. when you have multiple countries involved, it's difficult to do that. in fact it's impossible. >> when will life get back to normal. >> it's going to be a matter of several week

fauci. dr. fauci? dr. fauci: thank you very much, dr. walensky.hat would i like to do is take a couple of minutes very preferably reviewing the status of the vaccines and vaccine trials that we have, but then as i've done in the past, pick out a question that i believe is being asked more frequently to try and preemptively address it and perhaps generate some discussion. with regard to the trials that we have, as you know, the u.s. government had been involved in the development of and/or facilitation of the testing of three separate platforms represented by six different companies. you are all aware of the data of the moderna and the pfizer/biontech, which had their eua now, having shown a 94% to 95% efficacy. right now, as we speak, the data from the biontech study showed a 92% efficacy in the united states, but was also done in south africa and latin america, and showed a diminished efficacy against the variant, but very good against severe disease, that is being reviewed at the fda for the u.s. data, and on february the 26th, the fda will cons

fauci. dr. fauci? dr. fauci: thank you very much, dr. walensky. what would i like to do is take a couple of minutes very briefly reviewing the status of the vaccines and vaccine trials that we have, but then as i've done in the past, pick out a question that i believe is being asked more frequently to try and preemptively address it and perhaps generate some discussion. with regard to the trials that we have, as you know, the u.s. government had been involved in the development of and/or facilitation of the testing of three separate platforms represented by six different companies. you are all aware of the data of the moderna and the pfizer/biontech, which had their eua now, having shown a 94% to 95% efficacy. right now, as we speak, the data from the biontech study showed a 92% efficacy in the united states, but was also done in south africa and latin america, and showed a diminished efficacy against the variant, but very good against severe disease, that is being reviewed at the fda for the u.s. data, and on february the 26th, the fda will consu

fauci and dr. graham. it is incredible. it is a place to go where our top minds spend years researching vaccines and treatments for all kinds of viruses. there will be others. hiv, influenza, sars, mers, ebola. today, covid-19. to all of you, your work made possible the remarkably rapid development of the covid-19 vaccine we have today. it is incredible. people were talking years if not decades before we would have a vaccine. on behalf of a grateful nation -- and i don't say that lightly -- on behalf of a grateful nation, i want to thank you and your families for your work and your sacrifice. there is no doubt your families sacrificed a great deal for the endless hours you put in to save the rest of us. i know it was not easy. the devastation of this pandemic, the loss-of-life and livelihood has not spared the scientific community. labs closed, research delayed. with every moment of despair, you and all the heroes and heroines on the front lines and frontiers of this pandemic remind us who we are. we are america. we never g

anthony fauci. they say the reputations of many will be chattered when the history is finally written on this era of covid. speaking of dr. fauci what does he have to do with modern dating? raymond arroyo explains that in friday follies. but first -- why this day matters? that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> if you're like me, you probably every now and then think back on what things were like just one year ago. think of how many things have changed in the past year. a year ago, we had a booming economy. we had strong borders. and a whole host of rights and privileges that we took for granted like the right to travel without being surveilled and questioned. the right to worship without restrictions. the right to have your kids attend school. the right to speak freely on most social media platforms. the right to walk in the park or anywhere without a mask or two or three on your face. the right to visit loved ones in hospitals and nursing homes. but the arrival of the chinese virus followed by the

you could wear fauci on the beach, he such a flip-flop. ever made was up at the science settled" and fauci's right to say what he thinks is right for that moment, he's not blinded by science, just spotlights. it's when he looks back and opinions replace prescriptions just to tickle the media. reuters claimed fauci said the pandemic arrived in the u.s. when the company was driven by political divisions where wearing a mask became a political statement. maybe that could have killed more people and that's an opinion and it's an odd one for a doctor who made equivocation over masks and art form. you could say wear a mask all the time or take it off outdoors, say no to closing schools then yes, you can say it's safe to travel, then it's not, you can say vaccines will return us to normalcy except without the normalcy, you can say all of this, he kind of did. but this was a novel virus so it's all novel to him and to us. but assigning a death count to an opinion is a bit much especially when expert opinion changed so much, the thing about covid,

fauci said.rking on rolling out a lot of vaccine to a lot of people, and yet we still have a lot of disease -- 66,000 cases a day. so what we might be proposing, in terms of guidance, will really likely be at the individual level and not at the community level. mr. slavitt: and let me just follow up, to make a broader point. the broader point that dr. fauci and dr. walensky both alluded to is this: the scientific team, the president -- as the scientific team, including prominently dr. fauci and dr. walensky -- are very much working together on those sets of recommendations. and i think it is in our interest to make sure they release information based on data, not on -- to your -- the tenet of your question -- trying to convince the public of something that is not necessarily based on data. i think that you will hear that consistently from this administration. i will tell you that people are interested in taking the vaccine in large numbers for the same reason people are interested in taking the v

fauci. dr. fauci? dr. fauci: thank you very much, dr. walensky. we can leave us open to questions and discussions. as you know, last week, when the data that came out from the j&j vaccine trial, as well as information from the novavax trial, i think it is important for people to appreciate that we now have the three separate vaccine platforms. mrna, recumbent, and viral vectors, in the mix right now. obviously, the key, j&j will be putting into the fda for emergency use authorization. the reason i put this out is because as these things roll out, they will have different degrees of what is called vaccine efficacy. so we know we had a 70 2% overall efficacy in the united states for the j&j, but it is important to point out when people ask about the difference between 72 and 94, 95, with the moderna and the pfizer, is when you look at serious disease, hospitalizations, and death, it had a profound effect on that, so as we get into the next weeks and months, and more vaccines come out, there may be different common use of them in the big pool of vacc

fauci. you'll see him only here on "the beat." >>> we begin with president biden and his win, his legislative victory on this key vote for a sweeping economic package. it comes as a former president is also poised to go on trial. many advisers to president biden say what we're seeing tonight in these duelling stories is verification, a validation of his view that the government and the congress can do more than one thing. now president biden is talking up this new relief plan. it passed this key vote in the senate. it passed in the house. it is on its way. take a look. >> if i have to choose between getting help right now to americans who are hurting so badly and getting bogged down in a lengthy negotiation or compromising on a bill that's up to the crisis, that's an easy choice. i'm going to act fast. >> act fast. and the major breakthrough here came with an assist from the person you see right there, an all-night senate debate followed by vice president harris casting her first ever tie-br

fauci? >> i think you always want to be prepared for that type of thing. >> laura: first of all, 5 to 14 weeks. quite a spread in time there. again, no one in the fauci fan club at cnn will ask the obvious question here. if the latest of these variants is so transmissable and deadly, why are cases and deaths falling dramatically as the variants increase? the u.k. variant known as b 117 is 48% of the sequences in denmark right now. but look at where cases and deaths are in denmark today. 30 seconds of really high school level research and the scary variant thesis falls apart. it embarrassing. the biggest lie of all, it's all trump's fault. >> remember the cdc delayed issuing a mask suggestion and order. we had keeping restaurants and indoor dining open. not fully putting in place other safety measures. you compare the united states to other countries, we did much worse. >> laura: okay. old zeke needs to innoculate yourself against lying. we have done very well against other established countr

tony fauci wants to take it slow.the other hand, fauci is acting quickly as long as the right interest were he is profiting from it or his allies are. we will give an example. tony fauci has decided without hesitation whatsoever the world health organization deserves billions of your money right away. u.s. tax dollars. the world health organization is the group that could have won the rest of the world about the pandemic to save lives. but chose instead to repeat chinese propaganda instead. your grandmother can wait according to tony fauci, but bureaucrats and w.h.o.'s headquarters in switzerland need the cash and they need it now. >> i join my fellow representatives in thanking the world health organization for its role in leading the global public health response to this pandemic. and as such, i am honored to announce that the united states will remain a member of the world health organization. >> tucker: what a malignant baffoon. history will indict his behavior . so you are still waiting for your stemless check. a

fauci very little. he doesn't have to leave his two kids in a hotel room while he works his shift at little caesars and he doesn't have the bag bankers and bureaucrats for a loan to keep the pattern of his business and business. he gets to shift with the winds enjoying an uninterrupted paycheck chuckling all the way to the bank or the fcc studios while hoodwinking desperate and skeptical americans who are ready to tell him to shove the science in his brown bunsen burner. so with the batting average like a pitcher where we expected to just take dr. fauci's word as gospel? let's get into it with tonight supersmart panel realclearpolitics co-founder and executive editor. the correspond for "the greg gutfeld show" on "fox nation" kat timpf and strategies radio host and "fox news" contributor leslie marshall rounds out the panel. welcome everyone. i will start with you tom because people have grown beyond frustrated and now they are hearing from other doctors like marty makary and i introduce him last night.

fauci and dr. collins got it also. it's safe.we need more people to get vaccinated to beat this pandemic. that's why in the first three weeks that i have been in office, you increased the supply of vaccine shipments to the states by only 30%. that means millions of more americans will get vaccinated in february than the previous administration is on track to do. but that's just the start. we bought more vaccines. two weeks ago i directed jeff science is here with me, my covid-19 response coordinator to work with the department of health and human services to purchase more vaccines. just this afternoon, we signed the final contracts for 100 million more moderna and 100 million more pfizer vaccines. we're also able to move up the delivery dates with an additional 200 million vaccines to the end of july faster than we expected. and in further good news, both companies agreed and are now contractually obligated to expedite delivery of 100 million doses that were promised by the end of june, delivered by the end of may. that's a month

fauci? >> no, i agree totally with what dr. walensky said, particularly the last part, is that when you're talking about requirements, which we do have for some vaccines. rochelle and i both are physicians who practice medicine. we don't do it in the hospital unless we get our influenza shot every year. that's because we have plentiful vaccinations available. but it's no time to talk about that now while we still have a great demand that outstrips the supply. >> okay. your second question? >> thank you. this is about vaccine supply actually, just to get some clarification about something dr. fauci said. on monday that the u.s. should administer all the doses it has without holding back and ideally in three weeks prioritize people getting second doses. i know that vaccine production has ramped up, but has it increased enough so that you can give everyone their second dose and keep up this same pace for new vaccinations? >> so, as we talked about, i believe, yesterday, we've steadily increased

fauci. dr. fauci: thank you, dr. wilensky. what i would like to do is bring you up to date on issues we discussed at our last re-think, progress along the way of the johnson & johnson, on the basis of data from their ensemble trial, of getting information to the fda, examining it in preparation for the possibility of an emergency use authorization. the data is not with the fda. they are examining it. they have scheduled the advisory committee, the vaccine related biological product advisory committee, which will meet in three weeks. let me review your we are and where we hope to go. as you know, data on efficacy of this ensemble trial, which involved three countries, the united states, brazil and the republic of south africa -- has been passed from the different countries. you had 72% efficacy for mild to moderate disease in the u.s. in the republic of south africa, which as you know is of concern to us because of the mutant, and the lineage that is now dominant in the republic of south africa, namely the b-1 351, in that the

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fauci, and dr. nunez-smith who will talk about the challenges we are facing to improve health equity in the face of this pandemic. we start with dr. walensky. >> i'm glad to be back to show the latest updates on the state of the pandemic. overall, while we continue to see decreases in covid-19 cases and hospital admissions, that is also in continuing to rise. cases remain elevated levels so let's start with the cases. january 30, 25.9 million cases had been reported to the cdc. during the week of january 24 to january 30, is seven day average increased 14.5% to 149,000 cases per day. the seven day average of new hospital admissions for patients with covid-19 during the week of the 23rd through the 29th decreased 14.6% to 11,800 admissions per day. however, 85,655 people were hospitalized with covid-19 january 29. through january 30 438,035 deaths have been reported to the cdc. during the week of january 24 to january 30, the seven day average of deaths increased 2.4% to 3,146 per day. while the rate

fauci. dr. fauci: thank you very much. i would like to spend the next couple of minutes addressing an issue that we have been asked about continually since the successful demonstration of the high efficacy of the vaccines currently being implemented right now in our country, the mrna vaccines of pfizer and moderna. we do know now that we have a 94% to 95% efficacy in preventing clinically recognizable disease, but the looming question is if a person gets infected, despite the fact that they have been vaccinated, we refer to that as a breakthrough infection, does that person have the capability of transmitting the infection to another person? namely, does vaccine prevent transmission? i mentioned to you that we, together with the moderna company and the pfizer group, are going to be looking at the viral load to determine if in fact a person who is vaccinated but has a breakthrough infection, compared to a person who is unvaccinated and has an a symptom at a infection -- has an asymptomatic infection, is there a difference i

anthony fauci.look at anthony fauci's record, and we will explain straight ahead. ♪ ♪ we will take cyber attacks are relentlessly advancing. to end them, cybereason built a cyber security solution so advanced... it can end attacks today -- on computers, mobile devices, servers and the cloud. and deliver future-ready protection, keeping you sharp for tomorrow. join us, the defenders, in our mission. cybereason. end cyber attacks. from endpoints to everywhere. ♪ ♪ >> sean: dr. anthony fauci tonight continues to be under fire for contradictions, getting things wrong, and consistent directives, flat out doom and gloom. listen to meghan mccain today on "the view." take a look. >> it is terribly inconsistent messaging and getting the vaccine he means nothing changes and we have to wait another few years until everybody gets it, there is already a lot of people not getting it. we are having a messaging problem to get people to take the vaccine. i'm over dr. fauci. i think we need to have more people giving

fauci. >> thank you, david.ppreciate you having me on. >> so live this afternoon please join us for congresswoman val demings. she was a presidential candidate and an impeachment manager last year when president trump was first impeached. i would be back tomorrow for an interview at 1:30 p.m. with u.n. secretary-general antonio gutierrez, which will be an interesting chance to look at the world from the eyes of the person running the united nations. thanks so much for joining "wasasasasas post live." >> you are watching c-span2, to unfiltered view of government. c-span2 was created by america's cable-television companies and today we're brought to you by these television companies who provide c-span2 to viewers as a public service. >> today the u.s. senate will return to session at 10:30 a.m. eastern. lawmakers will will be working on two presidential biden cabinet members. a vote for pete buttigieg to be transportation secretary and later lawmakers will debate the nomination of alejandro mayorkas to be homeland

fauci. he will join us live right here in "the situation room." >> more breaking news we're following. sources are telling cnn house impeachment managers plan to accuse former president trump of intentionally inciting rioters with his months' long effort to try to subvert the will of the american voters. first, let's get to the white house right away. chief white house correspondent k kaitlan collins is joining us right now. there's a huge gap between what the president is seeking in covid relief and what these group of ten republican senators are offering. >> reporter: wolf, it's a very wide gap. the white house is downplaying expectations for what's going to come out of this meeting with these ten republicans. happening right now inside the oval office, where reporters are about to go and cameras are about to be there to capture it all. the white house is saying don't expect them to whack out of that room with some kind of bipartisan deal they've struck. there's a wide gap between the $600

fauci, thank you.e this weekend, it's all was good to talk with you, sir. >> dr. fauci: same here, thank you very much, sir. >> chris: up next, we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the furor over ted cruz and his decision to head to sunny cancun while folks back in his home state of texas were shivering. ♪ ♪ (vo) last year subaru and our retailers donated 50 million meals to feeding america. and yet, one in four children may still face hunger. so, subaru and our retailers are doing it again, donating an additional 100 million meals to help those in need. love. it's never been needed more than right now. subaru. more than a car company. (vo 2) to join us with a donation, go to subaru.com. >> chris: coming up, senator ted cruz gets blistered for skipping town during his state's power outages. >> i certainly regret that this has become a distraction at a time when so many texans are hurting and frustrated and mad. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel what it means for the senator 'his political

but still, fauci is shifting thp goalposts again.ng us we still have to do everything we are already doing, stay at home,e, even if you have the vaccine, don't eat out, wear your mask, don't go to a movie theater, and you might not be able to let grandparents see their grandkids, and don't forget, fauci also admitted to intentionally raising the number needed for herd immunity to encourage vaccinations. that's another way of saying he nicely lied to us.ed in another bizarre moment, last year, fauci said it was probably okay to have a stranger from a dating app come over. what? but around the same time, also warning that we should no longer shake hands. telling people to avoid traveling, seeing their loved ones, all while health officiale like dr. birx, democratic politicians, all broke these rules. now look, understand, try to give a lot of slack to everybody. there is a lot we have learned over the past year. but they got a lot wrong.lo dr. fauci is increasingly becoming a political figure, putting draconian policy directors over pe

fauci is being awarded a $1 million prize.e private foundation said president biden's chief medical adviser earned the recognition for a lifetime of leadership on h.i.v. research and aids relief, as well as advocating for science and coronavirus vaccines. >> trevor: wow. congratulations, dr. fauci. i mean the man has definitely earned this prize. because we all know he's getting a million dollars for working for trump and not getting fired. he's basically the most successful "apprentice" contestant of all time. and i hope fauci uses this money to get something nice for himself, like a diamond-studded facemask. although, he doesn't seem like a "ball out of control" kind of guy. i bet faucci just use the money to bribe people to keep fighting the pandemic. ( fauci ) "let's cut to the chase. i'll give you $1,000 if you don't go bowling tonight." i go to be honest, though-- i've never heard of this foundation before. and part of me hopes this isn't a coronavirus trap. dr. fauci is going to walk into the room to get his prize, and

doctor fauci, welcome class thank you david, good to be with you. >> doctor fauci, every time we think we see some light at the end of the covid tunnel we worry there's another train coming at us and i want to ask you to help us understand what she we should worry about, what we should welcome and what we don't know enough about it. let me begin with this issue of a new variant of covid-19. you said on friday these new very to be more infectious, maybe more deadly, maybe harder to treat could outnumber the old virus by march or april. i want to ask how concerned you are about the new variant and about the possibility that they might produce another search of the virus that would be difficult to handle. >> we take them very seriously, david. rna viruses which sars coronavirus 2 is needed readily and much better when they replicate a lot like when you have a lot of infection in the community. what we've seen it allover the last few months is something that is not unexpected . there were mutations, many of which have no functional relevance at all. they don't change anything functionally

fauci says none of it matters, so many moving parts. fauci will just give another interview in three months and say there's another mutation, it's too risky, can't open up. but remember the pinup boys of the gray panthers have lied repeatedly about everything from herd immunity, to vaccine to masks. but today he gave the closest thing to a straight answer that he's ever given. >> if we really want to talk about true approaching normalalty, then we've got to attack this at the global level. wherever there's transmission and viral outbreaks throughout the world, the united states will always be in danger, no matter what we do. >> laura: okay. in other words, no matter what we do here in the u.s., double, triple, quadruple masks, social distancing, more closures, more vaccines. unless the virus is eradicated from every corner of the earth, fauci saying we can have our old lives back. so now we know. this was never about flattening the curve or saving the hospital, a worthy goal. this was nev part. it was never about developing vaccines. it

you. >> margaret, can fauci fauci somebody?- does -- does it work if he does it himself? >> i mean, i don't think his wife will be happy about it, let's just say that. i think he was just so relieved it didn't mean something hotter than that, you know? like, look, here's the think about fauci is that he realizes that he's become this cultural icon even though he's a scientist in that people -- many people will literally hang on his word and then there's another whole camp who despise him and hang on his word the other way and threaten him. during the course of the interview it's very clear he's trying to navigate this terrain. he doesn't want to get totally sucked up to it but he knows he has an opportunity to show people, to model the appropriate way to get through the next few months until everyone can get two shots. so i think -- i think he likes the term. i think he was impressed by it. >> can i help rewrite the axios personnel manual? >> i love it. >> fauci. >> all right. margaret, ben, thank you very much. that was terrif

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fauci either.r range of experts. >> katie: two your point about listening to a broader range of experts, when we listen other doctors with different perspectives who are not epidemiologist, we are told that we have to ignore their scientific approach to the pandemic because they are not in the same field as dr. fauci, so maybe we can add to the long list of mistakes that we have made throughout the process. >> and one new drill down on this and look at what happened, a great deal of responsibility for our unfortunate responses belongs with the news media, which has been terrible on this. >> katie: thank you, brit hume. >> thank you, katie. >> katie: coming up, you said it out loud. >> we don't want a blow away business. i don't want small businesses that are underpaying employees. it's fair for people to be making what they are producing, and i think $15 is very reasonable in this temperament. >> katie: congressman ro khanna is feeling the heat after the democrat openly admits he does not care whet