only with anthony fauci's permission.w do you know this wasn't gain of function he says all of my experts told me. so we've been asking hhs, which oversees nih. we've been asking for over two years, give us the dialogue. give us the debate, the discussion of whether or not this was gain-of-function research because there has to be a reason why anthony fauci decided not to send this to the safety committee. this may be the worst medical decision ever made by a scientist or physician in government not to review this for safety before allowing this money to go to china. >> sean: the book is great. i hope people get a hold of it. thank you for that warning. we appreciate you being with us. senator rand paul. all right, when we come back, things got a little heated last night after i asked governor desantis, governor newsom about biden's apparent cognitive decline. biden made a blunder after blunder after blunder this week. you've got it. got the tape. later, big announcement page and want to miss it come about next weekend a

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|nfluential with katty kay: anthony fauci. dr anthony fauci is america's top doctor. he ran america's medical response on everything from the aids crisis to ebola, and, of course, covid. now he's left government and he's back at university as a professor. ready, sir? yeah. dr fauci, how are you? good to see you. it's been a while. yes, indeed. since we went to dinner together. yes. thank you for doing this. my pleasure. no, it's my pleasure, it's my pleasure. this must be so nice for you, being back on campus. i asked myself a question. after 5a years at the nih and almost a0 years as the director of an institute, you know, all the things that i've done — research and developing vaccines — what do i want to do for the last five or more years? and i think that the pretty clear answer was to maybe serve as an inspiration for young people who are either interested in a career in public service or already are in a career of public service. your undergraduate, you didn't study medicine, though. you studied classics. i studied classics. greek, latin and the romance language

including elevating fauci, turning the government over to fauci, not firing fauci and on his last dayce did he help the people caught up in the capital stuff? any support for them? note but he did you accommodations for doctor fauci so to me if he could even get elected, you will not want to revisitov the covid stuff becaue he will review it is potentially critical of him and he's not going to. here's the thing, we,ll all make mistakes and i've done things, knowing what we know now and how they handled it in his administration was wrong. it was the wrong approach. maybe no one had better information at the time aldo i do think the got information but put that aside, knowing what we know now, would you still do the samee thing? he says yes. that is disqualifying. that should never happen to our country again. [applause] when you appoint people and goes back to another question, when you're in these agencies, they will not want to give up power, they do not want to see change so when you put people in the leadership position, they've got to be willing to take fire and not everyone wants

annie fauci.ding he wasn't recorded on visitor log, but he was appearing frequently at the cia. you have to realize that he was not a scientist in charge of a cure for cancer, he was also in charge of a lot of bioweapons money and in charge of a lot of things that had dual use, and they won't reveal any of this to us. they had weekly meetings on dangerous, dual-use research concerns and gain of function, and not one item of any of those meetings has been reelited to us despite us asking for it for over three years. maria: do you believe covid was a bioweapon? >> i think that it was probably developed for a vaccine. i think they developed coronavirus, they inserted this cleavage site in it to make it more infectious to humans, and they had a vaccine very early on. then covid got out. but the interesting thing is the scientist who developed it died mysteriously two months after the development the of the virus. he fell from a tall building in beijing, and it's -- there's a lot of questions as to the

fauci was fighting hiv.s we mark the 25th anniversary of kpix this week, we are rewatching significant moments in history covering by our reporters. today, it is hank plante when he sat down in 1988 to ask how those hiv vaccines were going. >> gp116 vaccine trial is in a phase one, it is called testing for two things, one, if it is safe to give and if it induces what is a immune response. does the body have a response, if that respect it is succeeding, thus far no toxic side effects from the use of this vaccine in the volunteers. and secondly, we are detecting immune responses to the vaccine. namely we are getting antibody responses and been what we call cell mediated responses, where you put it in a test tube with the cells of someone vaccinated and the cells respond quite well. so, thus far, things are coming along quite well. >> we all know that ultimately that vaccine did not prove to be effective. but the search goes on. vaccine trials are still underway now including one in africa and two in the u.s. >

fauci are now collecting dust on the shelves.aturing kamala harris does not sell at all. maybe it's their marketing strategy that's the problem. >> hi, everyone, join me and joe for a cup of joe. >> emily: what was more awkward, kevin, that or the elizabeth warren like join me for a beer and her husband is no. awkward, awkward. it does not sell anymore. >> kevin: i'm not the right democrat to ask, i think i have all of those things, including the bobbleheads, christmas ornaments, i love the president and the vice president, i'm all about it. donald trump is the king of merch. >> kayleigh: anthony fauci prayer candle. >> i have an rbg prayer candle i light for ruth bader ginsburg, but not anthony fauci. >> this is my theory. i think the sensational surrounding the figures immediately plummeted when the economy started sucking and everyone is miserable, and don't want to represent the people who are agony to everyone. >> i live in a bubble. >> can't afford potato chips, can't afford this, their likeability is in the toilet, and app

i'm also, mike, curious what does fauci know about all of this.ember that he secretly went to cia headquarters to influence the agency's probe on covid origins, according to house republicans, so, that could tell us how far reaching this lawsuit could possibly be. >> absolutely. so, in that reporting, fauci went over to cia headquarters and wasn't logged into the usual visitor, you know, symptoms. they were clearly trying to hide what he was doing there to me it absolutely wreaks of fauci weighing in to politicize this process. keep in mind what was happening that period of time. you had everybody in the elites and media and the deep state trying to give china the benefit of the doubt even though they had clearly lied there was massive geopolitical implications according to the lab leak theory. why they called me and you and others conspiracy theorists. now everyone accepts it definitely was a lab leak. fauci was making sure that he was playing politics at this point in time. it was about the election going into 2020. and giving china, you know, t

finish i think fauci knew that right from the get go.anuary 2020 which says virus looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolution their theory -- evolutionary theory. he gets that e-mail, and he instantly goes into cover-up mode, organizes a conference the next day where the story changes. so i think he knew from the get go. and never forget, stuart, everything the government told us, this is how it ties in to this censorship issue. almost everything the government told us about covid and americans were questioning, it turns out toive wrong. they said it wasn't our tax money, it wasn't gain of function research being done at that lab. yes, it was. they said the vaccinated couldn't get it, couldn't transmit it, they told us masks actually worked. so there are six things the government told us that turned out not to be true. and if you questioned that online, this administration, the biden administration, said, oh, we're going to try to censor that speech. true statements, accurate statements they try tried to censor. that's how bad

fauci wants to play for the pistons and that is why he is giving athletes all of those heart attacks. a lot of women think that i could be a spy, you know, because i'm really good looking and i have a very quick wit. all right, enough of that, so kat, i think the cia wants to cover it up because if people find out that our government was behind a mass murder of millions of people including hundreds of thousands of americans, they might want some accountability and the one thing that intelligence never seems to face is accountability. you think after they were wrong about everything in afghanistan there would be a lot of cia resumÉs floating around right now and this is -- you don't see any, no one is held accountable because that is a shame because having the cia on your resumÉ should be like the best thing. if they were like joe, what is your work history? and you say i can't tell it's a secret, and you say usually i earned $6 million a year. >> i think everyone agrees, right, that is what happened? but i don't think anyone would admit it. isn't that gaslighting? >> that is exactly w

fauci and at that time i was saying, come on, let's get this vaccine. he very improperly said, there's reasons why this one is very difficult. so here we find ourselves in 2023. working hard. all of the best ideas, researchers everywhere. i'm allowed to be optimistic. i think we are finally on the top. but it's proving to be extremely difficult. this particular disease, because it is a disease of the immune system. the work that we have done to come up with that vaccine has forced us to learn so much about the immune system. the whole world of cancer vaccines, which is just getting started. the mr nra -- benefiting from coming out of all of this immune systems research where the primary funders in the u.s. government to the organization. literally, right now, there's a vaccine construct that the u.s. has backed. it comes out of some work. we will use in an nra to see if we can filing a degree vaccine. are drugs that are so powerful that if somebody wants to avoid getting infected they may be able to have a rod to put in -- for six months. it looks very

fauci it came from the lab in much of the paper trail was destroyed or downplayed. to watch those hearings in january. doctor marty makary, thank you. back with more on the "fox report" right after this. ♪ you've worn many hats, from past jobs in fact. now, you can trade in those hats to help earn your grad cap! your past experience can help you earn your degree faster and for less. this is our last chance to help save thousands of holocaust survivors who are suffering in the former soviet union today. the needs that these forgotten jews have are something beyond anything you can imagine. have you eaten this morning? i ate the carrot, so i ate half of it yesterday. and this is what she ate in two days, one carrot. please pray for me! the international fellowship of christians and jews began this ministry to help elderly jews living in horrible poverty around the world. we urgently need your gift of $25 now to help provide one survival food box with all of the foods they critically need for their diet for one month. when you call right now, your gift's impact will be

like saint fauci.s newly resurfaced interview reveals what he really wanted out of all those covid mandates. >> once people feel empowered and protected legally, you are going to have schools, universities, and colleges are going to say you want to come to this college, buddy, you are going to get vast vaccinated. it's been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their audiological bull [bleep] and they get vaccinated. former emeritus -- professor ha emeritus endeem nothing at the yale school of public health. doctor, that was his goal to make lives difficult so people will give up their beliefs or their concerns that they had about this experimental shot and just go along with the government mandated flow. >> well emperor fauci was instructing his little people what they were required to do by the mandates. this was not a scientific statement that he made. it was something that expresses his contempt and basically says you have an i had logic reasons for taking the

fauci, and she said who is dr. fauci.t was because we weren't reaching her and it was because there wasn't a spanish version of dr. fauci. so it goes back to who is that trusted messenger. it may not be joe biden, but it may be people within stations like radio campesina. >> it's great to know they're out there doing the work and you are covering it, my friend. such essential rofrting. please come back. that is our show for this evening. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. >>> you're trolling folks and trying to find migrants to play political games

he hush-hushed with fauci because fauci lied, fauci knew the whole virus came from china.en a absolutely complicit saying joe biden in the fact that china wants to attack this country and not do anything about it. he will did down as the greatest failed presidency in the history of this nation. maria: we've got these new fox news polls that finds voters are split on the biden impeachment, 49% say they believe the republicans' investigation is legitimate. 66% of voters say they believe hunter biden is being treated fairly by the justice system. the new york posted tore y'all board calling on the -- post editorial board calling on the doj to prosecute biden for contempt. that's how they went after trump officials for defying congressional subpoenas. i don't think they'll have the same fate as peter navarro and steve bannon, congressman. >> i spoke to cnn a couple weeks ago and one of their guys tried to harass me saying i would find hunter in contempt versus steve bannon. one was made up charges against president trump and something here with hunter is absolutely verifyable.

dr anthony fauci is america's top doctor.and, of course, covid. now he's left government and he's back at university as a professor. ready, sir? yeah. dr fauci, how are you? good to see you. it's been a while. yes, indeed. since we went to dinner together. yes. thank you for doing this. my pleasure. no, it's my pleasure, it's my pleasure. this must be so nice for you, being back on campus. i asked myself a question. after 5a years at the nih and almost a0 years as the director of an institute, you know,

i spoke with kentucky senator rand paul who is zeroing in on anthony fauci and his coverup as well aswas with me a week or so ago on sunday morning futures. here he is. >> and we have anthony fauci on record saying even if a pandemic occurs, that the knowledge would be worth the risk. and i think most people who had a loved one die from covid either here or around the world bodies agree and think anthony fauci mead a disaster judgment call. maria: your thoughts, jamie? >> absolutely we need to get to the bottom of how y the covid-19 pandemic began. the primary responsibility is on china. there may be additional answers we can get from the united states. that's why it's important that congress of the united states, congressman wenstrup and others are digging aggressively. that is the united states government trying to understand what went wrong here. but the primary culprit, the primary reason we had a covid-19 pandemic at all is the behavior of the chinese government but for the unique pathologies of the chinese state, there very likely would have been no pandemic at all. maria: jamie

fauci, and she said who is dr. fauci. and it was because we weren't reaching her and it was because there wasn't a spanish version of dr. fauci. so it goes back to who is that trusted messenger. it may not be joe biden, but it may be people within stations like radio campesina. >> it's great to know they're out there doing the work and you are covering it, my friend. such essential rofrting. please come back. that is our show for this evening. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. >>> you're trolling folks and trying to find migrants to play political games to try to get some news so you can out-trump trump. and by the way, how's that going for you, ron? you're down 41 points in your own home state. but there's one thing in closing that we have in common is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024. >> ouch. two strong moments from california governor gavin newsom last night in his debate with florida governor ron desantis. it comes, of course, as nikki haley is gaining significant momentum

he elevated fauci not a good job.ds to be held accountable we're going to bring a reckoning for this. we're going to hold these people accountable do not worry. so i think on personnel, you've got to get you've got to attract folks that are mission oriented i don't care if they flatter me, obviously, i've appointed peel in florida who oppose me in the primary when e ran in 2018 for governor because our mission was ace lined and i trusted them to do the good job. which you don't want is somebody who doesn't share the mission just because they say nice things about you and you can't do it that way so we'll do personnel different than he did and i think we'll also deal with -- some of the issues with china a little bit different than he did. i think his praise for xi jinping to me i just disagree with that. i mean they unleashed covid in this world -- they unleashed fentanyl in this country -- he's not somebody to be lotted or complimented. this guy is a dictator and china is our number one adversary so we're clear on th

i said why don't you trust doctor fauci? she said who is doctor fauci? and it was because we weren't reaching her. it was because there wasn't the spanish version of dr. fauci. so it goes back to who is that trusted messenger? , it may not be joe biden, but it may be people within stations like radio campesina. >> it's great to know that they are out there doing the work in that you are covering it, my friend. such essential reporting. paola ramos, please come back. that's our show for this evening. it's now time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >>> the last w >> good evening alexd before i get to andrew esmen glenn kirschner, i have an observation and a request. it's a question one. my observation is my favorite thing on television last night had nothing to do with lighted christmas trees, it was chris a's doing the farm report on your program and the request is, could you please bring farmer hayes back at least once a month to keep us up to date on the price of eggs and everything else that you guys covered because i'm

i said why don't you trust doctor fauci? she said who is doctor fauci?eren't reaching her. it was because there wasn't the spanish version of dr. fauci. so it goes back to who is that trusted messenger? , it may not be joe biden, but it may be people within stations like radio campesina. >> it's great to know that they are out there doing the work in at

dr anthony fauci is america's top doctor.at university as a professor. ready, sir? yeah. dr fauci, how are you? good to see you. it's been a while. yes, indeed. since we went to dinner together. yes. thank you for doing this. my pleasure. no, it's my pleasure, it's my pleasure. this must be so nice for you, being back on campus. i asked myself a question.

fauci lied. there's point-blank evidence that he covered up the fact the virus did comfortable cons lab. i don't think he is a superstar. i don't think he was praised he absolutely lied to the american public and as a physician he's damaged the reputation of medicine across the country. this is something taken by the left of praising somebody who lied to the country. i am hopeful there will be some revision of what's gone back and truth be told that he was appraised but he was really shown he was lied to further his own interest. i want you to succeed i think when everyone talks about the smithsonian they talk about greatness. this is something when you make the visit to washington d.c. it's all about going to the smithsonian pretty on the air and space is emu marvel at things. i will tell you when i saw this exhibit in 2020 talk about whiteness here we are rather than having all of the silos and being told you are in privilege you are in this, you are and that in trying to pull things together p

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> well, this is not a very good sign for the biden campaign, liberals who scooped up faucieads say folks are into the heroes. it's not just the sales of swag. they're having trouble selling the term bidenomics is no where in the president's speeches decide saying it was the word of the year. >> they started referring to my politics as bidenomics. guess what. it's working >> bidenomics is just another way of saying restore the american dream. >> bidenomics flows off the tongue. >> here to talk about the word of the year here. >> biden reveals how it feels about bidenomics. >> it's got tougher for everybody. >> how could he be seeing it through our eyes. >> it's got worse. >> registered democrat but i'm not happy. >> this economy sucks. everything is going up except payc paychecks. >> greg have you purchased any bobbleheads? >> it's hard to make a bobblehead when somebody's already a bobblehead. it's redundant. you're not going to get a kamala harris bob head and they should have got a coffee table book of diagrams or kamala harris speaking for it yuts. that's why let's go br

anthony fauci was asked about his faith and got kind of scroogy on us. >> i think my own personal ethicsh to keep me going on the right path, and i think that there are enough negative aspects about the organizational church. i identify myself as a catholic. as far as practicing it, it seems like a pro forma thing i don't really need to do. >> that catechism didn't stick. >> bear in mind, he's walking the halls of georgetown university. again, when you believe that these religious ideas and believing has no consequence we're left with the culture of life of anthony fauci. i guess when you're god you don't need god. in uk, the tree lighting at parliament lacked full watage. only half of the tree lit up. it's not a bad allegory for faith being displayed by the members of the royal family. why? >> this is the prince of wales and his beautiful family. it's kind a bit drab. looks like they hit olan mills on the way to the movies. >> it is little drab. they want to be of the people. lady diana was of the people and people loved that about her. maybe it's too drab. i guess that's the economy fo

or peter daszak and anthony fauci but the entire establishment.that happened that took away our rights in her our children for decades and continues to affect our rights. by the way we joke around that the selection is coming up what are they going to do now. >> i appreciate and i agree let someone who watched them to attempt to have military tribunals and attack us on 9/11, good luck. he was going to form the tribunals and get the chinese, i agree accountability should be had. you tell me how it all poor young couple coffee when it happens. will: on the will campaign progress mock tribunals for the responsibility of covid. will: going to happen. i'm serious. rachel: i will tune in. pete: we cannot allow the next pandemic to happen without looking back on this one. we will have matt taibbi on the show a little later. right now sacrificing free speech because what happened. look what happens is the great depression, we cannot just move on. pete: still at guantanamo bay waiting his military tribunal since 2002, i'm just telling you wait until the in

condoleezza rice, josh bolten, anthony fauci. around the corner. gershman and another oh, god i guess, and how he is missed in the room on the hill. we had a whole other squad of unusual nancy pelosi debuted on the floor of the united states congress fighting this disease way back when barbara lee, hero, john kerry working a bill with a bill, bill frist, john kasich in the background there are too many names to mention. both both sides of the aisle. no excuses. was president's mantra. i won't reel authorizations, real appropriation. things. we'll get the drugs and bass, guns and motorcycles if we have to. permission to make your life a misery, sir, if that's what it takes. go ahead, the president replied. but if you wouldn't mind letting me finish my own sentences in my own office and, the president of the united states think the office was yellow and oval. anyway, i should have been more humble. but this irishman is very humbled today by the most. alex expression of american values anyone can think of in times. that's right. most brilliant and of

when covid hit, you had march of 2020, anthony fauci assuming control of the government, effectively -- basically saying the world was going to end, you cannot leave your house -- basically saying shut down the country and have congress print $2 trillion and pay everybody. i don't know what they thought would happen, but that is what they were going to do. congress, leadership in congress did not even want to have to vote on printing $2 trillion. they wanted to be able to add $2 trillion to the national debt without even taking a recorded vote. so nobody would have been responsible for this and they would plan on doing it in the dead of night. congressman tom massey said that is not the way constitutional government works. we are not going to have this republic die based on unanimous consent where they are hot lining $2 trillion. he objected what was going on. he took more flak than probably a congressman has taken, certainly in my lifetime, because of the hysteria. certainly we forget just how crazy it was at the time. and he was getting hammered. he stood tall, he forced all of the

what was fauci's role? was he warned? how much is he sending over through his discretion?gotten to the bottom of it? no. we need to get to the bottom of what exactly that relationship was and why fauci was so defensive and why did he put his, you know, his finger on the narrative coming out of the u.s. government, especially, you know, the centers for disease control. where he actually actively tried to suppress differing points of view saying that, yeah, it was probable that that virus was actually manufactured in the wuhan lab. and, you know, we have the initial emails and then all of the sudden those emails kind of disappeared. what was his hand in it? why? and how much american money actually went to that lab and how much america was actually involved in what happened. i'm not saying that america actually released it or it leaked out of there. but, yeah. america may have been involved in the research that led to covid-19. >> lawrence: real quickly, congressman. this seems to be a potential bipartisan issue. your colleagues that are on the committee, do you find the sam

light for ruth bader ginsburg, but not anthony fauci. >> this is my theory. i think the sensational surrounding the figures immediately plummeted when the economy started sucking and everyone is miserable, and don't want to represent the people who are agony to everyone. >> i live in a bubble. >> can't afford potato chips, can't afford this, their likeability is in the toilet, and approval rating, and fauci. >> good gag gift. >> or regift. >> i'm going to post the photos of the ornaments when i get home. >> and light your candle. >> here is "america reports". [bombs and gunshots] >> sandra: we are expecting to get a state department update as israel pushes deeper into southern gaza. and is reportedly eyeing new tactics to root out hamas terrorists. hello, welcome everyone, sandra smith in new york. great to have you today. >> bret: good afternoon, i'm bret baier in washington in for john roberts. pump sea water into the complex tunnel system to force hamas terrorists out of there. israeli forces are setting up pumps to draw water from the mediterranean and pu

when covid hit, you had march of 2020, anthony fauci assuming control of the government, effectively -- basically saying the world was going to end, you cannot leave your house -- basically saying shut down the country and have congress print $2 trillion and pay everybody. i don't know what they thought would happen, but that is what they were going to do. congress, leadership in congress did not even want to have to vote on printing $2 trillion. they wanted to be able to add $2 trillion to the national debt without even taking a recorded vote. so nobody would have been responsible for this and they would plan on doing it in the dead of night. congressman tom massey said that is not the way constitutional government works. we are not going to have this republic die based on unanimous consent where they are hot lining $2 trillion. he objected what was going on. he took more flak than probably a congressman has taken, certainly in my lifetime, because of the hysteria. certainly we forget just how crazy it was at the time. and he was getting hammered. he stood tall, he forced all of the

we beat fauci on covid. i beat the left prosecutors. we beat the dems on election integrity.e have delivered victory after victory. that's what you deserve as the next president of the united states. [ applause ] >> earlier this evening in new hampshire, republican governor chris sununu endorsed nikki haley. i'm wondering how much harder you think that will make your path to victory in new hampshire. >> unlike some people running, if someone doesn't endorse me, i'm not going to trash them. chris is a good guy. he has done a good job. i'm going to continue to say he is good. he is a good campaigner, excellent campaigner. in that sense, i think it's a benefit for her. here is the problem. even a campaigner as good as chris is not going to be able to paper other nikki being an establishment candidate. she's getting funded by liberal democrats from california, like the founder of the linkedin. people on wall street, like the head of jp morgan. she's getting all these folks that are going to her. guess what? those folks do not want to see conservative change in this country. why a

fauci lied.there's point-blank evidence that this, that he covered up the fact that the virus did come from wuhan's lab. so i don't think he's a superstar. i don't think he was praised. he absolutely lie today the american public and as a physician he's damaged the reputation of the institutes, this was taken by the left praising somebody who lie today the country. i'm hopeful that they'll be some revision of what's gone back and actually truth be told that he was praised but then he really was shown that he lied to further his own interest. let me get something back to really, you know, i want you to succeed because when everybody talks about the smithsonian, they talk about greatness. this is all something when you live from a kid, when you make the visit to washington, d.c. it's all about going to the smithsonian. you get in the air space museum, you marvel at things but i will tell you when i saw this exhibit in 2020 that talked about whiteness, whiteness in 2020, here we are we are trying to

factuality fauci and so forth. but these are things i think will get better. but those limitations are quite real. that's why i think it's very important to have a deeper understanding going for where we are now about what these systems are good at, what they're not good at, how we solve and augment those capabilities, link them to other systems. but i'm actually pretty excited because the what i now call the scaling laws and i'm sure sam will also get into this, is as you scale these systems, they seem to get more capable, more powerful, and the possibilities are very, very exciting. i agree. they're very exciting. they they also can be very concerning. and for some people really frightening. so i want to read to you, sam, a quote from the wise public intellectual, yuval harari, who said, ai is the first tool in history that can create new ideas by itself. there's a danger that we will spend all our effort on developing an ai at the time. we don't understand ourselves, which is right now, and then letting ai take over. and that would lead to human catastrophe