no one remembers your faure. even though the probability of success was low.his is great about entrepreneurship. failure does not matter. one's willingness to fail gives one the ability to succeed. if you are not willing to take risks, if you are not willing to fail, you will not do anything interesting. because most interesting things are new, and new things involve risk. risk involves failure. emily: why did you leave what -- when you did and what was your biggest take away? vinod: before sun and before data dump, i started a company called daisy systems. that was quite successful in 1986. it went public. frankly daisy made more money , than i thought it needed ever in my life. and so i then wanted the freedom. i looked at careers like, what else should i do? so i joined one of my lead investors to essentially mentor and head hunt. emily: how does the venture industry back then compare to today? vinod: there are many venture capitalists. many bad ones. a few good ones. entrepreneurs should understand that. i get in trouble for saying that. but i think it is