they had air support and the winds were favorral and the winds weren't that -- favorral and the winds -- favorable and the winds weren't that strong. temperatures 95. warmer than it was. the area. smoke was blowing this way, driving the fire into less populated areas. i wanted to point something out, on the ridge line, see here, there is a firefighter. you don't see a lot of guys working the line between the houses. if the fire was coming the other way you would have had a line of guys lined up. those are the first two guys i have seen. these guys know what they are doing. this was in terms of a 1-10, this was a 3. couple years ago, i remember watching it going oh, my god. that was amazing work. this kind of fire, they will nail these things all day long. >> because of the winds, right? the wind is a huge factor. right now the winds are not as bad as -- [ talking at the same time ] >> it is breezy out there. 18 miles per hour. these guys -- these firefighters -- the winds -- the other night 38 miles per hour. now imagine trying to put it down at 38 miles per hour winds. we want to dow