well, my guest is information minister fawad chaudhry.t happened to imran khan's pledge to deliver clean, transparent governance? fawad chaudhry in islamabad, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. minister, do you accept it is a basic obligation of any government which claims to be democratic that it protects freedom of expression and it protects independent journalism? do you accept that? of course. this is fundamental of pakistan's constitution cited in article 19, freedom of speech. but the problem you have come at minister, is that it is quite clear day after day, month after month that your government is not protecting journalists and isn't protecting freedom of speech. well, i would obviously contest this claim, because pakistan is probably one of the freest states as far as media is concerned. we have about 43 international channels, including the bbc here in pakistan. we have 112 of our own private channels, 258 fm channels and 1569 print publications. so you can imagine the kind of media we have, the kind of size of media