the fbi needs to cooperate. finally, as the director points out in his testimony, the fbi is actively investigating wrongdoing and getting results every day. that is why it is so perplexing to hear nothing at all concerning the investigation it has been just about a year since then investigation was opened. i hope we will have the time today to discuss the status of that investigation. thank you for coming in for the hearing. >\> thank you. director comey was sworn in as the seventh director of the fbi. he also served as deputy attorney general for the department of justice. he was a u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. we are delighted to have you here. please go ahead. >> thank you. senators, let me start by thanking you for your support of the people of the fbi stop when i became director, one of the great him issues was the impact of sequestration. thanks to you, we now have the resources to rehire and fill those positions, to be the nsa -- national security organization that we need to be. n

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the fbi needs to cooperate. finally, as the director points out in his testimony, the fbi is actively investigating wrongdoing and getting results every day. that is why it is so perplexing to hear nothing at all itcerning the investigation has been just about a year since then investigation was opened. timee we will have the today to discuss the status of that investigation. thank you for coming in for the hearing. >> thank you. was sworn in as the seventh director of the fbi. he also served as deputy attorney general for the department of justice. he was a u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. we are delighted to have you here. please go ahead. >> thank you. senators, let me start by thanking you for your support of the people of the fbi stop when i became director, one of the the impactssues was of sequestration. thanks to you, we now have the resources to rehire and fill those positions, to be the nsa -- national security organization that we need to be. national security remains our top prior

it touches everything that the fbi is responsible for. i tried to explain to folks that it is not a thing, it is a vector. we have connected our entire lives to the internet. it is where our children pay and where our banking is stop health care and critical infrastructure. soon it will be where your refrigerator is and things you wear in your car. ouruse we have connected whole lives, the people who would do is home -- harm, that is where they come. for our children, as secrets, our infrastructure. it cuts across every responsibility that the fbi has. i was in indiana and someone was responding -- reminding me of the great vector change of the last century. it was the combination of the automobile, which introduced a new kind of crime to this country. criminals can travel very quickly. it was important to have a national resource to respond to that. i was reminded of it while they were talking to me about john dillinger. i said in response, john dillinger could not do 1000 robberies in the aim day in all 50 states in his pajamas halfway

that was a phone conversation of an unidentified fbi agent pressuring mansour to become an fbi informanttory is part of the new film "this american refused to become an fbi informant. then the government made his family's life hell." we are joined now by naji mansour were via democracy now video stream from sudan. joining us from washington, d.c. is nick baumann, who wrote the piece for mother jones magazine. nick, lay out the story. as you heard, this is a story about not jim ensor -- not jim ensor, who did not want to become an fbi informant, and what happened to him and his family after he made that decision. start the story, and the best way to start is with 's mob, a long-time government employee, and his sister, and they are in south sudan, it is in the middle of the night, a dangerous place. they are wandering the streets naji because he had disappeared. they do not know where he is. they were told that he was being held in a blue building somewhere but they do not know where that is. imagine, if this is your child or brother, and you are an american living abroad, having no idea

fbi. here's the surprise. when that state prosecutor in florida looked into that shooting and released this report on what happened, that state prosecutor inadvertently released the name of the fbi agent who did that shooting. they weren't trying to. they were in fact trying hard not to residentiese lee lease t agent's name. this is how they explained it. they said the name. fbi agent was, quote, confirmed but unredacting the prosecutor's report. a process made simple because the blackout technique used to cover the names was faulty. before the globe ever published their story a vaguely con spir ra to recall website also found the fbi agent's name in this report and published it. because when that state prosecutor did the report that fbi agent's name was not properly blacked out. the website did it first, then the globe did it, today the globe was able to publish this editorial calling for the release of more information from that shooting. once they got the name of the fbi agent who pulle

in the last 151 times an fbi agent shot someone, and the fbi investigated that shooting, they found it kosher, exonerating its agents, 151 times out of 151 times. they almost always are the only ones that investigate their own shootings, and always find themselves to be justified every single time. so it was interesting and news worthy when a local state prosecutor in florida decided to look into a shooting where an fbi agent killed someone in florida. it was a little less than a year ago. it is very rare to have a law enforcement authority other than the fbi look into a shooting by the fbi. but here is the surprise. when that state prosecutor in florida looked into that shooting and released this report on what happened, that state prosecutor inadvertently released the name of the fbi agent that did that shooting. they weren't trying to. they were in fact trying hard not to release the fbi agent's name, but oops. when the globe reported that fbi agent's name, this is how they explained they got it. they said the name was quote, confirmed by unredacting the prosecutor's report, a proce

prior to his appointment to the fbi mr. coleman served as an officer in the united states army for nine years. we are delighteded that he could join us today. we ask him to proceed with his testimony. proceed, sir. >> good afternoon. i'm pleased to be here with you today to discuss the fbi's efforts to combat economic espionage and theft of trade secrets. the fbi consider it is investigation of theft of trade secrets and economic espionage a top priority. in 2012 alone the national counter intelligence executive estimated a range of loss to the u.s. economy approaching $400 billion. to foreign adversaries and competitors who by illegally obtaining a broad range of trade secrets degrade our nation's advantage in innovative research and development in the global market. this loss threatens the security of our economy and preventing such loss requires constant vigilance and aggressive. the fbi is working to apprehend those pursuing economic espionage against clear defense contractors and government agencies. it's made a signif

fbi field offices. as the committee is aware, the frequency and impact of attacks on our nation's private sector has increased in the past decade. it is expected to grow exponentially. we have had investigative successes against the threat. we will continue to push ourselves to respond more rapidly to prevent attacks before they occur. the western district of pennsylvania unsealed an five membersainst of the people's republic of china. private financial gain, damaging computers through code and commands. economic espionage. theft of state secrets. conspiracy toof a penetrate the networks of six companies pursuing action against state owned enterprises in china. this is the first time kamal charges have been filed against a known state actors for hacking. this operation involved 18 countries, more than 90 arrests have been made so far. been00 searches have conducted in support of the operation. products were offered through their site. the most popular was a remote access tool. it contained a longer feat

we are seeing that in the fbi tough stance on pot use. monday, fbi director hinted that may change.ep up with sophisticated hacking done by cybercriminals it may have to be a bit more open minded. quote, a lot of the nation's top computer programmers and hacking gurus are fond of marijuana he said. i have to hire great work force to compete with cybercriminals. some of the kids want to smoke weed on the way off to the interview. that drew a lot of notice including criticism from conservatives in washington. today, under questioning from republican senator jeff sessions, the fbi director offered this explanation. >> i would asked a question by a guy who said i have a great candidate for the fbi his problem is he smoked marijuana within the last five years. i said i will not discuss a particular case. and then apply. i waxed philosophic. i am dead set against using marijuana. i don't want young people to use marijuana. it is against the law we have a three year ban. i did not say i am going to change the ban. i said i have to grapple the change in my work force. >> he may be grappling

it's just after 7:00 a.m. in the morning and there's a dozen fbi agents. and my heart's up in my throat, because i realize it's now me. >> narrator: the fbi's search warrant said they were looking for evidence that drake was the new york timleaker. >> drake being drake sits down at his kitchen table with the fbi agents without a lawyer present and spends the entire day trying to convince them that the real culprits are the people at the nsa who have run this illegal program. >> so i told them everything i could, but they didn't want to hear about that. they wanted to hear about the new york timand sources. >> narrator: the fbi carted away drake's computers and boxes of his papers. drake waited. >> a few months later, in april 2008, drake gets a summons to go meet with somebody who is described as "somebody very important." >> narrator: the meeting was with federal prosecutor steven tyrrell. >> when drake sits down, tyrrell says to him, "mr. drake, you are screwed." >> narrator: tyrrell had no hard evidence drake ever spoke to the new york timor that he had

he was helping the fbi as an informant. do you think he got a fair deal. >> it's normal, because in drug cases when you capture drug king pens is you have the king men turn on everybody else and the king pen walks. this is something no new. what is new about this is they are doing this in hacking cases. in fact, when i was a hacker, back in the early 1990s, the government used a same kind of informant against me, but i figured it out quickly, and turned the tables on this guy. but - so they were doing this back in the 1990s, it's nothing new. did he get a fair deal. he was extremely lucky. he was facing at least 20 years in federal prison, and walked out on probation. that's unheard of. >> can the government trust hackers, people like you? >> well, it depends. you can't generally say hackers, it's on a case-by-case basis to the individual. in the past there has been informants like justin petersen, the guy that tried to get enough evidence for the fbi against me, and he turned out to be doing credit card fraud. an informant

ride to his appointment to the fbi, mr. coleman served as an officer in the united states army for nine years. we are delighted that he could themus today, and we ask to proceed with his testimony. proceed, sir. pleased to be here with you today to combat economic espionage and theft of trade secrets. the object considers investigation of theft of trade -- and and is it economic espionage a top priority. in 2012 alone, the national counterintelligence executive a lossed -- estimated approaching $400 billion. to foreign adversaries and competitors who, by legally obtaining a broad range of trade secrets, degraded our nation's advantage in innovative research and development in the global market. this immense loss threatens the security of our economy in preventing -- and preventing such loss prevents vigilance. the fbi is diligently working to apprehend targets against u.s. businesses, academic institutions, clear defense contractors and government agencies. it has made significant progress including some of the most egregio

we need the fbi cooperating with customs and tsa. we need access to federal civil enforcement for trade secrets theft and well conceived legislation like the act recently introduced by senator kuhn and hatch. this will give us the ability to pursue people in the federal level and not on a state level. finally, we need to meet the global challenge of trade secret theft with global solutions and good trade agreements to stop these thefts. in conclusion, chairman whitehouse and senator hatch, trade secrets are vital for manufacturers small and large of the america's trade secret laws and policies must keep pace with today's threats. manufacturers need your help to ensure that they can effectively and efficiently protect and enforce their trade secrets. i applaud your attention to this critical challenge and your focus on solutions with strong global partnerships and closer collaboration between federal agencies and government and business and with the improvements to these u.s. laws including federal civil enforcement, we could have a r

it's the fbi.t people in there who are going to go in and know how to use the web and go really deep. >> you don't care about past drug use at all? >> the fbi is fighting crime so hard and people doing things illegal -- >> it's interesting. what if they worked in colorado or some place it is legal? >> you have to be that person that knows how to go in and get underneath the surface. these aren't people just googling, people who know how to go into the web and find these terrorist and drug organizations. i'm a more and want my children safe. i think the is an organization not to tiptoe around this. >> in other jobs i've had you have to succumb to a drug test and in some cases i've taken the drug test and other case is haven't. this could change the way corporations hire people. >> absolutely. if you go forward and look at someone who has taken drugs within a certain window, what does that say for people on the job? and if you release the standard, do you apply a different one, especially looking at

you are either an fbi agent of the new regime, the brand-obama regime, or you are an fbi agent of the old regime reeducated and no. in other words, if you are one of the new people you might not have any clear idea of what that means with the of the cases of our whom. left policy into heavy metal is something? to what does that mean? he is a follower of radical islam. well, we all know is lama is a religion of peace hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists who twisted misinterpreted peaceful teachings, but nonetheless how bad can it be? and g. hardy, following the interior struggle to better and self. how wonderful, or you know better because you have some sense and you have semis and you have a brain. and so you see that this guy is a risk, but you know if you say to your superior, welcome i think we should be tailing this guy, watching this man closely, they will say why? well, he is a follower of radical islam. well, you can't do that. it is not in the political climate to keep somebody under surveillance under those circumstances. the fbi went back to the russians and asked for m

four years later, he was hired by the fbi after passing a fitness test. according to one report mcfarlane was involved in a shooting as an fbi agent last year, killing a friend of boston bombing suspect tamarla in dzhokhar tsarnaev. now they are going through records to figure out how he was getting the disability payment from the city while still working in law enforcement. while they don't have the details yet, administrators say it's possible this case falls in a gray area. >> the real question is the job that they are doing, the second job they are doing, is it different substantially different from the job before? >> we don't know the nature of the work that he was engaged in with the fbi. it could be something that he was doing as an oakland police officer employee. >> reporter: mcfarlane had a troubled history as an oakland police officer. he was the focus of two police brutality lawsuits and four internal affairs investigations. the fbi meantime is not talking about macfarlane's hiring process but some here in oakland, some councilmembers are frus

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>> he retired from the fbi and was rehired as a consultant for the fbi. i don't know that michael malone destroyed 1800 cases. i have been able to collect 1800 cases or parts of files from 1800 cases in an attempt to determine if someone was hurt by something mike might have done. >> all right. fred whitehurst, thank you very much for your time. the latest appears on sunday at 9:00 on al jazeera america. >>> methods still being usedden, and white bread, we'll explain. and the man tasked, with l glory in the world cup, the controversy that continues to dog him. dog him. >> i'm joe berlinger this is the system people want to believe that the justice system works. people wanna believe that prosecutors and police do the right thing. i think every american needs to be concerned about that. we do have the best justice system in the world, in theory... the problem is, it's run by human beings... human beings make mistakes... i'd like to think of this show as a watch dog about the system... to make sure justice is being served. wrongful convictions happen, we nee

we'll hear from an fbi we'll hear from an fbi whistle whistle blower. blower. in one of america's most in one of america's most elite. elite. criminal labs. criminal labs. e e nonchenew orleans will begin tht nonchenew orleans will begin tht school year with an all charter school year with an all charter school school district. district. louisiana congressman steve louisiana congressman steve scali srveglise. scali srveglise. >> the charter school movement >> the charter school movement has literally has literally transformed the transformed the public education system. public education system. in new orleans. in new orleans. before creercht, 75 katrina, 75g before creercht, 75 katrina, 75g schools. schools. today less than 15% of those today less than 15% of those students are attending schools students are attending schools with either a d or f with either a d or f rating. rating. >> advocates for charter >> advocates for charter school, school, are quick to are quick to note, what's lost note, what's lost when traditional public schools when traditional publ

the other day i read the fbi was purchasing some malware. i am wondering what their role is in overseeing some of the intelligence gathering inside the united states. how do they oversee the fbi investigators offensive capabilities in the cyber area? >> i am not familiar with the specific report you are referring to. there are a couple of different roles. one would be if the fbi were applying before the foreign intelligence surveillance court, then before they could present as an application to the clerk, they would go through lawyers at the national security division to see that they made out the proper predicate and probable cause under the fisa act. similarly, if they were trying to use it through the criminal system -- who have worked with them on obtaining the proper permissions, a criminal court process. you have an oversight section that national security reviews. it reviews the use of national security authorities, so if they were attempting to use it, then it would be reviewed by applicable legal rules and predicates. >> yes, in the

. >>> tonight oakland officials are investigating an ex-police officer on disability turned fbi agent. kpix 5 reporter brian webb is live in oakland with the story. brian. >> reporter: ken, this ex- oakland officer has been collecting disability for the past 10 years and for much of that time he has also been an agent for the fbi involved in some risky and physically demanding investigations. fbi agent aaron mcfarlane shot and killed a friend of the boston bombing suspects while he was being questioned in florida last year. the fbi refused to identify the agent but it turns out he is the same ex-oakland cop collecting $52,000 a year on disability tax-free. >> i think they should investigate. >> what do you think? >> i think we ought to hang him. >> reporter: a boston newspaper traced agent mcfarland's routes to california where he collected a half million dollars from calpers since breaking his ankle on the job 10 years ago. an oakland city councilman says possible fraud is hard to enforce. >> you know, oakland doesn't have the capacity to be enforcing following up so it's not only a

ask fbi director. james comey. today his attempt at a joke about marijuana back fire and back fired big time. abc's senior justice correspondent now on the punch line gone wrong. >> reporter: the fbi has been known as the straight-laced just the facts lawmen depicted in the abc classic tv show. >> you're under arrest. >> reporter: if you smoked marijuana in the past three years, you need not apply to the fbi. but a bit of buzz has been created after director was asked on monday if the fbi would hire a computer wiz who smokes pot. in response, he said, i have to hire a great workforce to compete with the cyber criminals and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview. does that mean the fbi is considering a change in its pot policy? today the fbi said hold on and the director said those comments were partly ingest. >> i am determined not to lose my sense of humor. but unfortunately i was trying to be serious and funny. >> i am dead set against using marijuana. i don't want young people to use m

the fbi said hold on and the fbi director said the comments were partly in jest. >> i'm determined not sense of humor, but unfortunately there i was trying trying to be both serious and funny. i'm absolutely dead set against using marijuana. i don't want young people to use marijuana. it is against the law. i did not say i'm going to change that ban.xd i said i have to grapple with the change in my workforce. >> reporter: some members of congress were not laughing, worried all the smoke may confuse young people. pierre thomas, abc news, washington. >> there you have it. i happen to understand that this was a joke. i don't think it is that big of a deal. it's pretty clear there's a policy in place and the director isn't all of a sudden going to change the policy because of a joke he made. >> yesterday we did a pot brownie story and i have a hard time wrapping my mind around two states in the union saying it is completely legal and you can't do it for three years and get an interview. something needs to mesh. >> you have to marry the two ideas. >> there you go. >>> moving on to this now,

i roncally, in the fbi lab that tested the dna. rather than acknowledge that they made a mistake and stop the kay, the prosecution not wanting to admit it made a mistake elicited fraud on the part of the medical examiner and wrongfully convicted me. >> some people might look at you and say this is the exception, a rare case, this doesn't happen all the time. are you the outlier? >> absolutely not. my evidence for that is there has been 314 dna proven wrongful convictions when you factor in non-dna, they start to get into the thousands. last year, 87 people were exonerated in the u.s. and were already on pace this year to en beat that. so, no, it's not an aberration. >> we asked our community, there is all of these flaws in the prison system. how do we fix it? strange bed fellow tweets better funding for crime labs, improved training for, forensic scientists, so fred, you are the whistleblower. you had to pay the price for telling the truth. you have heard some of these suggestions for improvements from strange bed fellow. how can w

today we will hear about these issues from witnesses provided by the fbi and dhs. i am pleased that we will begin this hearing in an open session and subsequently moved into a closed executive session. i'm particularly pleased that chairman pat meehan is here today and that his subcommittee is engaged in this hearing, because he, along with chairman mccall, have led efforts to enact serious cybersecurity legislation. with the support of the private sector is and privacy advocates, that bill was passed unanimously out of this committee. it's a testimony to the hard work, also to the importance of the issue and i'm privileged to have pat with us here. i look forward to the testimony, and i now recognize the ranking minority member of the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence, the gentleman from new york, mr. higgins, for any statement he may have. >> i'd like to thank the chairman for holding this hearing, and in deference to the chairman and our guest today, i'll submit my opening statement for the record so we can get right to it. >> ranking member yoal

over the past decade and he's also working as an fbi agent. ktvu channel 2 news talks with some people who called this double dipping but technically he's not breaking the law. >> reporter: we spoke with the agency that paid out retired agency, it is against the law for them to work for another law agency in the state of california but there is nothing prohibiting them collecting the paychecks and working in another state and some say that needs to change. >> aaron mcfarland gets $50, 000 a year and he gets paid to be an fbi agent in boston. he retires 2004 from injuries but passed the fitness test four years later. >> i am surprised that he would be allowed to continue at the capacity of law enforcement and especially the fbi. >> it is not right that he's double dipping even though he's doing it on a loophole. >> oakland has a high number of police officers retiring on medical disabilities. >> they should be more carefully looking at these disables and more importantly when it does happen to track them to see the condition of the disability s

it was the fbi. at the same time, i don't think you do anybody a favor when you say move on.org is the reason she didn't. move on.org at any given time and i'm not a big fan but they have about a thousand petitions there. they don't put them up. the petition you're referencing is put up by somebody a couple years ago, 100 people signed it. >> they were petitions -- but you admitted and acknowledged they didn't listen to the fbi. >> we have a navy s.e.a.l. here in the audience. >> don't put it on moveon.org. >> about the hashtag, how many people think that campaign is effective? >> all right -- >> you brought your own hashtag? >> as an entertainment reporter i can say a lot of people, especially the younger generation, my mother, grandmother, they get their news on twitter with smart phones and your blackberries, too, and a lot of people maybe who didn't know what was going on learned about it by seeing this hashtag and although people are criticizing michelle obama and celebrities for tweeting about

we worked with offices across the fbi are from california to oregon to oklahoma and back here in d.c. our team thought creatively, worked collaboratively and explored all available options for stopping this activity. that is how we were able to indict five members of the third department of the people's liberation army or 3-pla and unit 61398. these men stand accused of cyber intrusions targeting a range of u.s. industries. the indictment alleges specific actions on specific days by specific actors to use computers to steal information from across the economy. it alleges that while the men and women of our american businesses spent their days innovating, creating, and developing strategies to compete in the global marketplace that these members of unit 61398 were spending their business days in shanghai, stealing the fruits of american labor. it alleges that they stole information particularly beneficial to chinese companies and that they took communications that would provide competitors with key insight into the strategy and vulnerabilities of the victims. now there are some who que

at the capacity of law enforcement, especially the fbi. reporter: says it's not right he is double dipping. >> i think that is wrong. reporter: oakland has a high number of police officers retiring on medical disability. john burr also feels mcfar lane's case is a window into a bigger problem. >> they should be more carefully looking at these disabilities and once it does happen to track them, see whether or not the condition that caused the permanent disability still exists. reporter: reportedly involved in a shooting. here inoke land he was a focus of four internal affairs investigations and two police brutality lawsuits, burr also sued him in one of the cases. >> we had concerns about his policing. reporter: the city will investigate whether or not his job is any different than the one inoke land, mcfar land needs to stop cashing in. >> the reality for an officer it is a misstatement and use of funds, at the end of that day i am paying for the pension, retirement, that needs to be corrected or needs to stop. reporter: i asked if they wo

would that be okay at the fbi?'m really saying is that, if we can say that, yes, we can consume alcohol but you can't come into the office, you can't handle your duties if you are consuming alcohol. but if you're not consuming it and you have no part of your body that shows that you have been and not able to do your job, that's one thing. now, if marijuana fits into that other category and the same thing would occur, as much as i'm not for this, but logically i'm saying, well, if it fits with the other aspect, then it should fit with that. >> i hear you loud and clear now. let me play this for our viewers because apparently the fbi director clarified his statement. he was testifying before the senate judiciary committee. >> i was asked a question by a guy who said i have a great candidate for the fbi. his problem is he smoked marijuana within the last five years. i said i'm not going to discuss a particular case, but apply. i waxed philosophic and funny to say one of our challenges we face is getting a good workfor

so how did he manage to get a job as an fbi agent? ,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> all right. let's fly you around the bay area today. starting out with some low clouds and drizzle outside. the temperatures warming up though in the afternoon a way from the coast. we'll see lots of sunshine inside the bay. some 70s and 80s into the south bay going to be a little bit warmer this afternoon. maybe as high as 85 in morgan hill. 86 gilroy. east bay temperatures will be hot. maybe in the upper 80s in toward antioch and brentwood about 83 degrees in danville. concord checking in at 83 also 86 into fairfield. in the north bay, could strike 90 degrees at clearlake. 86 in santa rosa. as you make your way back into san francisco, sunshine this afternoon. about 71 degrees. >>> three people were rescued after they tried to climb the anderson reservoir near morgan hill. they got stuck. crews came in with a helicopter and rope to lift them out but the people could be in trouble. it's because you're not supposed to climb the dam. >>> a former oakland police officer has been collecting thousand

they should call in the fbi. the fbi has the crime labs and forensic specialists. of help in the form of resources. if you look up santa barbara's police department, it is not particularly large. that, in itself, lends itself to a problem. unlike new york city that has the luxury of throwing bodies at problems like we have seen in 9/11 and other incidents. >> when we hear the sheriff saying they are analyzing written and videotaped evidence that suggests this was a premeditated mass murder. how long does that take to get through the written and video evidence before you can definitively get answers? >> a matter of minutes. if they had the opportunity to review some type of video that was made, what he specifically outlined his intention in the means in which he would carry it out and why, you would have minutes. the minute you get it in your hands. it depends on what the shooter left in the aftermath of the incident. if it is immediately accessible to law enforcement and creates a definitive outline to the intention and why, you have a lot right there. the problem

>> results of analyses were skewed in favor of the prosecution >> the fbi can't force the states to look at those cases >> the truth will set you free yeah...don't kid yourself >> the system has failed me horror. horrors revealed 10 years ago this week. a decade later, what impact did that exposure have? plus, they are call black site did, cia principleses around the world that you haven't heard about, including two possible locations revealed just this week. are we still in the shadow of ab u grab? we discuss right now my co-host is here bringing in your feedback throughout the program. this is one of those topics where you feel like 10 years later, sort of out of sight, out of mind. >> horrific images seared into my mind. i will never forget it. but i think most americans are forgetting it. doubting tom says: 1010 years ago it was brought to light. you probably remember some of the images can be disturbing to see. food and water deprivation, pouring phos phoric liquids, feeding and rape. it was at a time the bush administration a conversation on torture and the threshold for obeying su

the fbi is, you know, ruling out people who smoked pot in the last three years. test people when they come in for pot. should these companies -- should the fbi be concerned about marijuana use anymore? marc, you start. >> i think -- i see a reasonable argument for the fbi being concerned because it is still illegal most places. and if you're hiring an fbi agent who has admitted to casually breaking the law when they think the law isn't that big of a deal, it could raise an ethical or moral issue. but in general, i don't care. the weed train has left the station a long time ago. and if you're in corporate america and you're worried that your tech guy is smoking weed, you have an issue because i can just about guarantee your tech guy is smoking weed just like every place else. let it go. >> to kevin, where do you stand on this issue? >> you've seen my computer lately, obviously. you know how well this works. >> you know what? i do not support what he has just said about our wonderful department here at cnn. kevin, do you think there are conceivably some occupations

the fbi is going to put task forces throughout the country.hat people are trying to build this criminal option as one of the options when look at the information that they are gathering, i believe they can and will bring additional cases. these are hard cases to bring that are technically complex. they cross national boundaries. it's always going to be difficult. now that people are working it, i believe they can and will bring additional prosecutions. they are going to follow the facts and the evidence where they lead and respond to the crimes that they see. it's by no means a strategy aimed at if i particular country. it's aimed at the crime and then following back the crime to see who committed it and the focus is on economic theft of the unit. those are the type of charges you may see in the future. >> i want to talk about one difficulty, complexity of this type of case that doesn't arise in a lot of other cases where you are primarily looking at witness interviews. you refer to the warm body in back of the keyboard. i know in a lot of the

it is something that the fbi took. when still with the fbi the christmas day plot happened. it shows the device that the nigerian had. the fbi and others re-created the device. as you remember, it burned in did not explode. it is on a sheet of aluminum. a couple of sawhorses. the powera sense of of this non-metallic ied. >> 3, 2, 1. >> 2, 1. >> we can imagine, in the pressurized air cabin of an aircraft, that will be catastrophic. that is why the work that create does is so important. it helps us look at technologies that detect this type of explosives. you walk through a metal the tact or. -- metal detector. we were very fortunate that the device did not go off on the approach to detroit. how can we have a partnership to develop those technologies, the policies, the procedures, that allow us to mitigate and buy down risk without eliminating risk? the only way to come close to this is to do a thorough pat down of every person, tossed every bag and look for items like this. that is not a good model. i congratulate the 10 year anniversary and the partnership with dhs and, i th

he somehow got into the fbi.he was just 31 in 2004 when he retired from the oakland police force for medical reasons. he's been since collecting $52,000 a year. he was also zd to testify in -- asked to testify in the oakland riders trial of police corruption but exercised his fifth amendment right. the boston global reports he is the subject of two police brutality cases and four internal affairs investigations. the reason the boston globe is following the case is because his controversial case came to light after an interrogation in orlando, florida. that's when macfarland was identified as the fbi agent who shot and killed a friend of the suspected boston marathon bomber. that incident caught the attention of the oakland police department. so far, the fbi has declined to comment about mcfarland and the pension he's receiving from oakland. but tells the globe that mcfarland is a hero whose quick thinking in the boston marathon incident may have saved the life of a trooper. we have calls in and we'll be following

the fbi ought to be involved. and the director of the fbi told me this morning and the testimony he offered at the judiciary committee that if there is falsification of records, destruction of documents, there's more than ample predicate for the fbi to be involved in the criminal investigation. >> because that clearly could be criminal. did you get a commitment from the director of the fbi that they would launch a criminal investigation into these allegations? i ask you the question because you speak not only as the united states senator but a former attorney general in the state of connecticut. >> as a former federal prosecutor, i can tell you right now, my belief is that the allegations of criminal wrongdoing, which include falsification of records, manipulation of documents, obstruction and possibly obfuscation in connection with this investigation are pretty incredible allegations that deserve criminal investigation. now, he said to me that he would be invoflved if he was asked by the inspector general. the in