and thezv fbi.t that existed during thiká period. this was how james bulger was able to never, everfáok bee1 xd >> the defense, defending him from an assertion that he was an informant '.9 though it was not pi charge. and so whatt( seems crazy is th government hasñrxd gotten sucke into this, as well. they're trying to prove he was, even though ite1 is totally irrelevant. it is not about guilt or to establish he was not a rat, an informant, whatever you want to call it. >> i was as surprised as anyone when james whitey bulger was captured. is the government excited about having bulger come back? some people certainly are. but there areo$q)s i think who have many sleepless nights about what james bulger is going to testify to. >> i believe the reason that they are giving so much protection to bulger, çdty transported from the jail to the courthouse, is they're worried about someone with a sniper rifleÑiçó takathem out on the wy to court so that he can't testify. that is how explosive hise1fá testimo

and the fbi had a big problem after the assassination. the fbi did have lee harvey oswald under surveillance. it became important to fbi toector j edgar hoover, prove that laws walled -- that oswald was a lone wolf, that and heas no conspiracy seems determined to prove that, regardless of what the facts might show. thehis is a model used by foreign commission >> this now exists at a museum located in what used to be the texas school book depository. here to make it easy for people to understand the sequence of events in dealey plaza. to tryof cars were used to indicate where the president's limousine and other cars in the motorcade had been at different times. hughes often were for two as the father of the single bullet theory. you can see him demonstrating how the single bullet theory would have happened, that a bullet passing through the body of this first gentleman, who is sitting in for president kennedy, it would have passed through him and then hit governor connally in the back. the commission staff felt strongly from the earliest d

with the fbi quietly. ford would acknowledge that years later. next to him, chief justice johnson, next nt to president johnson is allen dulles. debacleorced out by the for the bay of pigs. dulless had a terrible conflict because among other things it appears that dulles cia plots to kill fidel castro. ordered some of those but shared none of the information from the warren commission even though that have given -- suggested the investigation the commission followed.ve next to him, john sherman cooper, a senator from kentucky, moderate republican. and next to him is congressman who was s of louisiana prominent in the democratic leadership of the house and very to john kennedy. >> 50 years later, how should we day? that the anniversary of the release of the warren report? with mixed mark it feelings. unhappily, this report that was time to the definitive answer to many of the uestions asked about the kennedy assassination appears been that. it is remarkable to discover hat linden johnson ultimately decided

but he was enabled by the fbi. and the fbi was enabled by the justice department.his day the justice department as far as i'm concerned was engaged in a cover-up to minimize the extent of fbi corruption. >> to know that this is how you're treated as an american citizen when fbi agents protect killers and come and take your loved ones' life. you could be sitting here. don't you want to know what really went on? with they really did it. >> if everybody told the truth, everything would come together. but everybody fashions things to benefit themselves, which is natural, i guess. but everybody's trying to twist the story a little bit. nobody's going to know the truth until everybody starts telling the truth. that's what it comes down to. people are going to have to come to their own conclusions. there's going to be people that believe jim bulger was an informant. he's going to have people on the other side who say he was not an informant. people are going to say he didn't murder women. other people will say he did murder women. so the true story will never be known. >>

that is the fbi.i was one of those who fought against dividing the fbi into an mi5 and scotland yard after 9/11. i thought even those of the republic of on the other side had different views, i thought that would be a mistake. i thought they were great strengths that benefited the american people from having those authorities and those responsible us of the national security side and criminal enforcement side in the same place. i also thought it was very important to any national security organizations that focus here in the states be chalk full of a culture that it appears to the rule of law, which is something that is at the core of the fbi. i think one of the things the 9/11 commission, one of the many things the commission got right is the bureau should not be splisplit up. i missed it if you should to transform itself to be better at accomplishing especially the national security mission but all of its missions. so that's my picture of the fbi today. i inherit an fbi where bob mueller worked very

the fbi and the warren commission was very strange. lot to doeport had a with setting that ugly tone that existed between them through the rest of the investigation. >> how cou the nation's leading law-enforcement agencyld with sophisticated labs a experienced a report that these lawyers considered inadequate and sloppy? >> that is a good question. we now know, of course, that the of in the era j edgar hoover -- never as disciplined never had the integrity we would've hoped it to have. problemfbi had a big after the assassination -- because it turned out the fbi had lee harvey oswald under surveillance. >> he determined to prove that regardless of what the facts show. >> this is a model used by the warren commission. >> right. nowinik this model a museum in the texas book depository. it was used at the vfw offices to make people use it -- make is easy to understand the sequence of events in dealy p laza. the president's limousine and the other cars in the motorcade. this is arlen specter. assistant toan strict attorney of philadelphia

but fbi waves its objections -- >> the fbi end of it. >> correct. >> the question is, we are holding hearing here. and i want the hearing intent to be a resolution, not condemnation. and so i think it is important for us to look certainly as you well know, we're not litigants but litigants each have individual rights. i would have the right to protect my client and therefore in discovery i'm going to make sure that i'm giving precisely what is asked and not something that is just grading. and you on the other side will be the same if you represent a client. we want transparent government. but as well, the fbi or epa or those production documents should be adhering to the law. the structure is in place that came in in 2010. let's see how we can work it better. but fbi has a right to council. epa has a right to council. and have you a right to transparency. am i arguing or making the point that you say you now need a system that allows these documents to come forward? >> and what i'm suggesting is the mind-set has to change. both in our earlier reviews, for example, robert hanson matte

the fbi were trustworthy and not corrupt. crazy thate fbi police in st. paul, minnesota, were in the pockets of gangsters . when ma barker was living on south roberts street in st. paul, only a few miles from where we're standing today, the fbi got a tripwhen ma barker wad her dad boys were there. the barker gang. the fbi raced to the house. by the time they got there, the barker gang was gone, tipped off by the same call police. there was no love lost between the fbi of j edgar hoover, and the corrupt local police who were taking bribes, on the take from the underworld. to, in a way, live the high life and leave a good-looking corpse. that is what happened. they ate well and slept with you for women, drank wonderful line. i think the gangsters knew their lives were short and they lived that gangster life in st. paul. quests throughout the weekend, american history tv is featuring st. paul, minnesota. our tour staff recently traveled to learn about its rich history. tour more on c-span's city . you're watching american history tv, all weekend, every weeke

>> the fbi office of general counsel. >> the fbi has?> yes. >> you're saying that's not political? >> the office of general counsel is not a political appointee. >> i understand. when did that start? >> it may have been just before i came. >> i'm particularly concerned about one issue that's been a focus of the oversight committee and other committees and that's the targeting by the internal revenue service by people exercising their first amendment rights and have been very disappointed of the investigation by the justice departme department for a number of reasons. a couple of months ago, the director -- >> faced restrictions on their access to certain records available to their agencies that were needed to perform their oversight work in critical areas. so i want to know what were those critical areas? did any of the -- were you denied access to oversight work in critical areas? were any of those areas related to the internal revenue service? >> no. that is not an area that i was referring to. >> anything related to that? i know we've

"fbi, don't move!" >> garriola: gave the words, "hey, fbi." "get your hands up."ands went up right away. and then, at that moment, we told him get down on his knees and he gave us... yeah, he gave us a "i ain't getting down on my "f"-ing knees." >> kroft: didn't want to get his pants dirty. >> garriola: didn't want to get his pants dirty. you know, wearing white and seeing the oil on the ground, i guess he didn't want to get down in oil. >> kroft: even at 81, this was a man used to being in control. >> garriola: i asked him to identify himself and that didn't go over well. he asked me to "f"-ing identify myself, which i did. and i asked him, i said, "are you whitey bulger?" he said, "yes." just about that moment, someone catches my attention from a few feet away by the elevator shaft. >> kroft: it was janus goodwin from the third floor, coming to do her laundry. >> goodwin: and i said, "excuse me. i think i can help you. this man has dementia, so if he's acting oddly, you know, that could be why." >> garriola: immediately, what flashed through my mind is, "oh, my

but fbi waves its objections -- >> the fbi end of it. >> correct. >> the question is, we are holding hearing here. and i want the hearing intent to be a resolution, not condemnation. and so i think it is important for us to look certainly as you well know, we're not litigants but litigants each have individual rights. i would have the right to protect my client and therefore in discovery i'm going to make sure that i'm giving precisely what is asked and not something that is just grading. and you on the other side will be the same if you represent a client. we want transparent government. but as well, the fbi or epa or those production documents should be adhering to the law. the structure is in place that came in in 2010. let's see how we can work it better. but fbi has a right to council. epa has a right to council. and have you a right to transparency. am i arguing or making the point that you say you now need a system that allows these documents to come forward? >> and what i'm suggesting is the mind-set has to change. both in our earlier reviews, for example, robert hanson matte

the fbi branded him the unabomber. the fbi was flummoxed.anifest was written by the unabomber his real name was ted kaczynski and sent to various publications through the turning point. before that, the investigation can be institutional pride, and individual egos. we talked to three fbi agents banned by fbi director louis free by cutting through the cumbersome procedures of the investigation and cutting free of bureaucratic restraints. the new book "unabomber," how the fbi broke its own rules to capture the terrorist ted kaczynski details the fbi's investigation for the unabomber and how these three worked together to bring him back. jim -- jim freeman was special agent in charge of the multi agency unabomber investigation and strategic management and the executive level. he began his career as a special agent with the fbi in 1964, was in los angeles and miami and in 1993 was assigned special agent in charge of the san francisco division. following the unabomber investigation he returned from the fbi in 1996, retired from the fbi in 1996 an

>> the fbi office of general counsel. they've set up that process. >> the fbi has.ou're saying that's not political? >> that is the office of general counsel is not a political appointee. >> i understand. >> they send it through their office of general counsel -- >> that just happened -- how long ago did that practice start? >> within the last two years. two to three years. >> so since you came? >> it may have been just before i came. >> i mean i'm concerned about all your work but i'm particularparticular ly concerned about one issue that's been a focus of the oversight committee and some other committees, that's the targeting by the internal revenue service of people exercising their first amendment rights. and frankly, have been very disappointed in the criminal investigation at the justice department for a number of reasons. 15 months ago then-fbi director muller sat right in the chair you are sitting in, was asked three questions, who is the lead agent, how many agents have been assigned to the case and have you interviewed any victims. one month into the inves

i have confidence in the fbi. and i have a great deal of confidence in my local police in finding that out. >> thank you for being with us. we'll continue to have more developments and analysis of this brutal beheading in oklahoma as well as the suspect's ties to radical islam with our terror experts ahead on "hannity". >>> there will be a lot more martyrdom from the united states going forward. >> a lot of brothers there are mobilizing right now. >> vice news releasing a very disturbing warning from a canadian isis fighter. just how much are americans at risk for a terrorist attack on our homeland and how do we protect the homeland? more as "hannity" continues. ♪ hey, jake! come on over here for a sec. why you wanna touch my dart so bad? ♪ [ high-pitched ] why's he wanna touch it? ♪ who said i wanted to touch it? ♪ jake, you know they've got affordable leasing programs ♪ yeah, i know. i was just... ♪ just think, jake, you could get your own ♪ ♪ and you could touch it whenever you wanted ♪ ♪ you could touch it all

i have confidence in the fbi. and i have a great deal of confidence in my local police in finding that out. >> thank you for being with us. we'll continue to have more developments and analysis of this brutal beheading in oklahoma as well as the suspect's ties to radical islam with our terror experts ahead on "hannity". >>> there will be a lot more martyrdom from the united states going forward. >> a lot of brothers there are mobilizing right now. >> vice news releasing a very disturbing warning from a canadian isis fighter. just how much are americans at risk for a terrorist attack on our homeland and how do we protect the homeland? more as "hannity" continues. >>> welcome back to "hannity." ties to islam, well, america's been warned yet again that the threat of extremism on the homeland is real. warning about the group's next target. watch this. >> so there will be a lot more martyrdom operations coming from the islamic state going forward. >> there will be attacks in new york -- a lot of brothers there are mobi

that is the fbi.i was one of those who fight against dividing the fbi into an mi5 and a scotland yard after 9/11. i do even though some very thoughtful people on the other side of different views, i thought that would be a mistake. i thought there were great strengths that benefited the american people from having those authorities and those responsibilities of the national security side and a criminal enforcement side in the same place. i also thought it was very important that any national security organization that focused here in the states be chock-full of the culture of adherence to the rule of law, which is something that is at the core of the fbi. so i think one of the things that the 9/11 commission, one of the many things the commission got right is the bureau should not be split up. and instead of the bureau should work to transform itself to be better at accomplishing, especially for national star condition, but all of its missions. so that's my picture of the fbi today. i inherited an fbi

, or between individuals within the fbi. and each one of these artifacts, you could find textual documentation and are files that would tell you more about the significance of the artifacts you are seeing here. again, this is the black sweater oswald was wearing when he was shot. our conservators have put these in acid-free boxes with tissues. any labeling that would've been on the materials when they came to us, we have preserved every artifact of the artifacts. so any of these are all original labels. the national archives would not have put the labels on here. finally, this is the shirt oswald was wearing when he was shot. he was shot when he was in the custody of the dallas police, being moved from one place to another. and it was being filmed. so it was unusual. there was a lot of press available. the conservators at the national archives have experienced -- have experience in what we need them to. if necessary, they will reach out to an expert. they have all been trained to deal with multiple types of materials. this i

the fbi sometimes in return for not prosecuting someone who has committed crimes that the fbi can provel use that person as a source of information. but the fbi suggests to you as much as it wants to stop youth from going over there and killing people and perhaps coming back here and killing people, it wants to find the root, the source, the cause, the organizer. >> they want to know who the recruiters are. the recruiters are their target. >> precisely. because the fbi has a lot of tools to stop these kids. they can engage in a sting, whether you think a sting is moral or not where they pretend to be bad guys -- >> let me argue. if they get the guy for recruiting, they get a name, a couple of names at this mosque, which didn't want to speak on camera and we asked them repeatedly it wasn't just in that moment we asked them repeatedly to come on, they refused. what could the person be charged with? how could they be stopped? and how does that case get proven? >> okay. the crime is providing material assistance to a terrorist organization. and that could be anything short of mere words. so

i transitioned over to the fbi. we were still getting anthrax hoax letters five, six, seven, eight years later after the fall of 2001. when you see this, you have to worry about copycats regardless if they are connected to isis. >> shocking to hear this. >> it is. >> it's a week after the strikes began, but still shocking. thank you very full, phil. >>> next, u.s. officials admit some senior al qaeda linked militants may have survived the air strikes in syria. >>> breaking news, the man wanted in the disappearance of the uva student just landed in virginia. and the search for hannah graham this hour. >>> go anywhere in the world at 18,000 miles an hour. we are going to show you how to do it. i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. whether you're just starting your 401(k) or you ar

party in the fbi. as complex emerge through many parts of our world we expect terrorist groups to use this instability to recruit and incite acts of violence. syria remains a major concern as a ongoing conflicts shows subsiding. due to the prolonged nature and the high-visibility of the searing conflict we are concerned that u.s. persons who have an interest in committing geological beach on to that region and the world. we can address these issues much more in a closed session that follows the session and we look forward to doing that. in conclusion mr. chairman to counter the threats we face we are engaging in an unprecedented level of collaboration. within the united states government and our private sectors around the world and with the international law enforcement organizations that we each of the tabletop to each another every day. we look forward to continue to expand these partnerships and to work with the committee to defeat our cyberand terrorist adversaries. thank you again very much for th

i think it was not a good idea to have the fbi money -- fbi run the investigation because they were too much involved in it. but that decision was made and we did the best we could. the people we worked with were very able people. the secret service cooperated. elmer moore was assigned to the chief justice. roy kellerman was in the front seat. the driver, the name escapes me at the moment. a very nice young fellow. >> another person you wanted to get testimonial from was former first lady jacqueline kennedy. her testimony was only briefed for a few people. why was that? >> mrs. kennedy did not testify before the commission because the chief justice wanted to save her the experience. it was a bad decision. she was the closest witness to the incident. she went back onto the trunk of the car. she was said to have remembered nothing about that. she was pushed back into the seat by clint hill, the secret service agent who carousing into the morning raced ahead, jumped on the car, and pushed her into the back seat. but she should have been questioned. , johnwas a report that raised the issue

i had worked with the fbi and i did not have the highest regard for the fbi. i thought the people i had worked with were pretty bureaucratic. when i began to read all of these investigatory reports that howard was sending to me, i thought, these guys have really messed up our opportunity to find a conspiracy here. their approach in those days, and i don't know if it is the way now, if they would get an idea that somebody might be involved in something, they would go out and interview them right away. it seems to me the last thing you want to tell somebody who might be a conspirator is that, hey, you got his number. what it you do that night? the word goes out -- what did you do that night? the word goes out. i did not have a high regard when i came to work with the commission. when i saw what they were doing, i did not think these guys were going to help us very much in finding a conspiracy. i think the one that really convinced me of this was an interview that i read, that came heoss my desk, i don't know, was a classmate of yours and mine. mine. classmate fr

our teams at fbi and dhs interact regularly with our u.k.colleagues to identify ways to improve our efforts in this regard. >> thank you. you'll back, mr. chairman. >> we recognize the man from new york. me join you in welcoming the witnesses. it has been a privilege to work with you. thank you for what you have done. secretary johnson, you get the ground running. i want to thank you for that. important to remind people, even in new york, of the constant terrorist threat we face. it does show the cooperation that is needed among all the counterterrorism forces in our country. you have mentioned that is not just ices, but it is also the different threats we have to face. one group, and i am only mentioning this because it was in the media, his or anything you can tell us regarding that. ? if not, i understand. >> the discussion of specific organizations should be left to a classified setting. >> ranking member thompson ask a question about working with our allies. oft are the plus and minuses prime mr. cameron's proposal that passport should

they can look at the original fbi files. lablab files of the technicians and scientists who worked at the fbi. the ballistic testing and five for testing. those records are all part of the collection. and some could look through them. but even when you said earlier, that is the rifle that oswald used, there are people listening to this that would say, that is not true. >> what i am saying actually is the opinion of the warren commission. i should state that i have no opinion one way or another on this. but that is how it is identified in our records. and so athat is how i will identify it. this is a gray zipper jacket. and the interesting thing, this also ties oswald to the murder warrenit because the commission, according to the warren commission, this jacetke t found near where tibbet was killed. near where they saw oswald takinen after the killing of tibbet. marina, oswald's wife, verified that this jacket was oswald's. warrenread the commission report, they will give their opinion on this, that it does tie him to the kil

the fbi were trustworthy. and it drove the fbi crazy that the police in st. paul, minn. pockets of the gangsters who would be partying here. when ma barker was living on south robbers street in st. paul only a few miles from where we're standing today, the fbi got a tip that barker gay was there. the fbi raced to the house. by the time they got their the barker game was gone, tipoff by the st. paul police. so there was no love lost between the fbi of j. edgar hoover and the corrupt local confederate -- in february of the police who were taking bribes, on the take from the underworld that party here. they wanted to come in a way, lived the high life and leave a good-looking course. that is what happened. this up with beautiful women. they knew that their lives were short they lived the gangster life. >> this weekend book tv is in st. paul, minn. with the help of our local cable partner comcast. next, we sit down. the family's experience of living in a refugee camp before resettling in the united states. that's when cities area is home to the largest community in the unite

the jig is up, it is the fbi.dillinger, cool as a cucumber says get your clothes on, he puts on his pants, gets a machine gun, comes to the store, opens its lightly, leans out, grins at the fbi and start firing machine gun bullets out of this boy. the police and the fbi start firing back at him. the door is chewed up by bullets. to give you a sense, john dillinger, not a master criminal, not a single bullet hits any of the fbi agents in the corridor you are in but one bullet from the fbi and the police's ben hits john dillinger in the 5. incredibly he has escaped from the fbi issued out, blazed down fire and comes out this tour. he is wounded in the leg so he races over here, stand here holding a submachine gun in one hand and again in the other and tells his girlfriend get the getaway car so literally the most wanted man in america is standing here bleeding like a stuffed pig. a bull like in this building next door sees the man he recognizes as john dillinger, bank robber, reaches and his bed, takes out a shotgun

fbi officials say they found no links so far to terror.l investigating to check out his travel, the suspect's contacts, e-mail, phone calls to see if there's any nexus here with any terror group like isis or anyone else. it's interesting because it comes at a time when the white house is playing a little defense about a president who ran for office against the bush war on terror now seeming to be following at least some of it in iraq and syria. so to show some separation today at the white house briefing, josh earnest insisted, look, this president does much smaller wars, not ground wars like we saw in the bush administration, smaller counterterror measures that in fact in places like yemen and somalia that josh earnest said have turned out to be a success in yemen even though right now the security situation has completely deteriorated in yemen. so i pressed josh on that. listen. >> how can you say a success yemen when the country's falling apart? >> because, ed, what we have seen is we have seen the effective deployment of a counterterro

what else did the fbi director say? >> he said he believe this is group of hardened al qaeda terrorists known as khorasan is still intact and could still be plotting to attack the u.s. or europe. despite a series of bomb attacks in western syria this week, tonight the fbi director says he's, quote, not confident at all that the u.s. air strikes have taken out the khorasan group. the al qaeda offshoot sources say was planning an imminent attack. >> they knew about the group and were prepare to go come after them, so quite possible that some of these fighters and operatives managed to disperse before these cruise missiles took out the training camps. >> reporter: in a closed door session today, james comey said the fbi did not have enough intelligence to know specifics of a plot, but believed khorasan could, quote, carry out the attack tomorrow, next week or months from now. the group of al qaeda operatives, including a former deputy of osama bin laden, had already acquired materials and was in an advanced stage of planni

in my role as director of the fbi is the chairman said i manage multiple divisions within the fbi. as the committee knows the number of sophisticated cyber attacks against our nation's network have increased dramatically over the recent years. we truly expect them to continue to climb and grow. i could break down the threats to our country in four broad categories from cyber. spies, transnational organized criminals, terrorists and activist groups. the bottom line is we are losing a lot of data, money ideas and innovation to a wide range of cyberaverage series. if the editor to call me has recognized this and the severity of the threat and has made cyber the number one topic in the fbi. and his leadership the fbi's continuing to strengthen our cyber capabilities in the same way we enhance intelligence and national security capabilities in the wake of 9/11. 2-d today's fbi ends intelligence to prove bands and respond to threats. we constantly seek to understand the threats we face in each of our offices both here and abro abroad. what is out there, what we see and what we might be m

parecÍa que nosotros sabÍamos todo antes que el fbi.de mantuvieron a jim pero cuando decidiÓ rescatarlo ya era demasiado tarde. >> es asesora de su urea nacional de la casa blanca dijo respuesta las declaraciones de foley que el gobierno de estados unidos trabajÓ fuertemente para tratar de liberar a su hijo y que incluso realizÓ una operación de rescate en la que participaron cientos de personas incluyendo miembros de las fuerzas especiales. el intento fracasÓ porque foley ya no se encontraba en el lugar. >> muchas gracias, vilma hablando de isis la amenaza podrÍa llegar a travÉs de la frontera aunque por el momento no parece haber evidencia los rumores circulan por internet y causan alarma en una regiÓn que ya sufre los rigores de la crisis migratoria, pero los terroristas tendrÍan otras vías para ingresar al paÍs desde texas, pedro rojas nos habla de posibles rutas. >> en momentos en que el recuerdo la frontera con mÉxico esta en la mira de toda la naciÓn en las redes socializaciÓn desandado una serie de rumores que menciona la posibl

why did the fbi decide to reveal this?> the fbi director has regular meetings with a small number of reporters. we get to ask him pretty much whatever we want. he chose to go there, he chose to give an answer of the question, has the person been identified who killed the two americans. i think because he was speaking solely about the two americans that is the fbi's prerogative and jurisdiction, he felt comfortable giving the information. >> did you get an understanding of how they identified him? >> he would not give specifics on the identity of the person other than they had made a determination as to who it was. -- our sources say they have analyze the voice, analyzed his eyes, his hands, the terrain. they have used computers to basically try to design the facial structure behind the mask and compare it with known photographs. this has been one of the most exhaustive forensic investigations in recent memory. of foreignontext fighters in syria, did the fbi director give any indication of how many they knew where their and

location of the fbi. forhey have begun hearings proposed sites for the headquarters, one in virginia, two in maryland. up first, springfield, virginia. for now, these brown buildings in springfield, virginia, only serve as warehouses for the federal servicest's general administration, but this could be transformed into the new headquarters for the fbi and its 11,000 employees. >> this is one of the sites being considered. >> monday night, there was a hearing on where to relocate the fbi. its iconic but often criticize site in downtown washington is considered outdated. need,does not serve our so we are looking for opportunities to consolidate and do the job better. knowe government wants to what the public thinks about the springfield location. greaterwith the springfield chamber of commerce says bringing the fbi to the mixing bowl would be an economic boon. >> you have the field office in manassas. it makes a lot of sense. >> one advantage to this site is it is already owned by gsa. ofisadvantage is the

the joint terrorism task force and fbi were able to stop that plot. that was in the operational phase and right along the lines of the kind of plot we're worried about now. as to the iraqis might have gotten this wrong on the foreign intelligence side of things, i think it's likely they had someone in custody saying they were in the process of planning this kind of attack. the iraqi government is going to tell us there's a threat to the homeland because we're obviously going to bolster our support of what they're doing over there even more. >> that's a good point. they want us involved and have reason to scare us. michael, let me ask you. the one thing that was confirmed is that this group, khorasan, it's al qaeda, al qaeda, that we also bombed on monday night as we bombed isis did have what our administration says was imminent plans to attack the homeland. and they have not been decimated. in fact, reports today are that they actually survived most of the initial strikes and are alive and well and continuing to plot. so how concerned should we be? >>

the fbi's doing a full investigation.know, but it's very clear to me at this point in time that he was a radicalized islamist that did the same tactics we're seeing overseas. we don't want to see more of this in the united states. >> we don't. so here's the question because these people get self-radicalized in large part via what they see online. this is a country with a bill of rights, first amendment free speech. do we curtail that in the case of jihadist propaganda online? >> we still have a constitution. i think we have to respect that. but can we do a better job? can this administration do a better job countering violent extremism? yes. i intend to connect to oversight. we know the fbi is monitoring public websites for this type of information. but there's no real plan or strategy i think that's effective enough at this point in time to counter this threat. we could see a whole new wave of terror within the united states with just these radicalized individuals that are already here not have to wait for them to come b

it started in 2010 with the fbi raising objections. there's a list of them that have said me too in terms of section 6a of the act doesn't mean what it says. >> what you're saying is is it began with the fbi thinking they could beat your oversight but like any infection, particularly a popular one, you are being shut out systematically? >> correct. if there's a way to do that, that's what happened. >> yesterday, you and i were together. i think you testified that on six occasions the attorney general or the deputy attorney general has intervened when you have been denied and ultimately allowed you to get some of the information. is that correct? >> that's correct. approximately six. >> so in your case, it's delay and impeding and, in fact, some of the benefits of expeexpedien? >> you continue to not get information and that is a decision being made by the agency head, is that right? >> well, i can't say emphatically that it's coming from the agency head. >> i should say, the agency head has not intervened in some of these letters, ask

pry or hits in the fbi. his leadership, the fbi is continuing to strengthen our cyber capabilities a in the same which we enhanced our intelligence and national security capabilities in the wake of 9/11. today's fbi and national security organization responds to all types of threats. we seek to understand the threats with he if as i in each of our offices here and abroad. what's out there, what we see and what we might be missing. we know that to effectively combat the cyberthreat, we must continue to expand our partnerships, both in government and in the private sector. in fact, we expect director comey and dhs secretary johnson will soon sign a new cyberunified message for state and local law enforcement. this message makes clear that federal agencies are working together to ensure that a call to one is a call to all. when law enforcement partners report information on cyberattack or incident. also for a law enforcement partners, we launched the cyber shield alliance, an online one stop shop that provides

. >> fbi director james comey lashed out fo for implementing phones. chief of detectivers for the chicago pd went so far to say that apple will be the phone of choice for the pedophile. they're probably thinking i got to get an apple phone. we go to peter, he served on president obama's reform panel. this is welcoming a recurring debate as the internet and technology has exploded. it seems that every time there is a security that may benefit the consumer, they are kept from doing their jobs. >> the police are worried that the new technology stops them from doing things. a lot of my own research shows that the police have a lot new techniques that they never had before. your texts and social network posts. they have tools they never had before, but they're focusing on what they don't have any more, and this is an example of. >> doesn't law enforcement have an argument? not only do these innovations curtail illegal warrantless surveillance, but even if a judge says, hey, there is more than enough reason for you to be able to look at whatever it is on tha

but to impugn the integraty that run fbi under his tenure and the fbi agent in this town. is not fair. >> why didn't we get a full-scale investigation that is made public. if there is it nothing to hide, quit taking the fifth amendment and tell us. >> there is a culture of lawlessness in the justice department. there are people that committed perju perjury. and employees who stole lap tops and used government credit cards to visit mistresses and got a buyout. there is a culture of lawlessness. no one is held accountable there. >> there is always a specter of race because of the comments that eric holder made. he felt like he was treated different. i saw jim crow and it was horrible and i repudiated everything that happen in that era. i am having a hard time believing that everything happens is a race issue? >> i think there is a legitimate way to critize eric holder. i don't think that is legitimate criticism. holder in some cases was used as a substitute by people who didn't like president obama. i think he's seen as obama's guy and people don't like obama. >> or his poli