this is an fbi decision that -- >> i know it is an fbi decision. i am asking who else was involved in making that decision? >> in the decision i have been a part of and our newest building commissioner who we have worked with very well following the last hearing. the relationship we have with gsa since mr. matthews has got there is better than it has ever been in my 25 years. >> i asked a simple question. >>ible i ga i believe i gave yo answer. >> no input from the white house? >> not on this decision, no. >> senator. >> i don't understand why we are having major whiplash up here i have been go the long history of positions that both your agencies have taken on this project. mr. haley, are you familiar with the report that was written back in 2011 with this project? >> yes. >> they looked at the demolish and rebuild? >> that was one of the pieces they did look at. >> that was option number two, alternative number two. it said this was not a preferred option because the fbi's security concerns about its headquarters would remain. your testimony toda

it's to discredit rod rosenstein, it's to discredit the fbi, ultimately to discredit the fbi. some reports that in this memo are indications -- there is information about the fisa. fisa used on the russia investigation as it relates to carter page. carter page was one of the advisers on the foreign national team. we've done some reporting on him that the fbi, in their attempt to get a fisa on him, used the dossier as evidence in a memorandum, in a motion that went before the fisa court. and this, as some reports indicated, is one of the things that the memo talks about. we don't know that for sure because certainly none of us here have seen the memo, and people that i've talked to really have not seen the memo. but based on some published reports, this is what the memo is going to attack, the fisa for carter page. but again, we have to wait and see. >> shimon, i'm going to let you talk to more of your sources as this has now been released. i want to bring jeff zeleny back in from the white house. as we learned this, jeff, that the president has authorized the release of this m

the fbi's fbi relationship with mr. steele and the fbi's reliance on mr. steele's dossier in two applications that it filed for surveillance under the foreign intelligence surveillance act. then, march 17th, 2017, the chairman and ranking member were provided copies of the two relevant fisa applications which requested authority to conduct surveillance of carter page. both relied heavily on mr. steele's dossier claims and both applications were granted by the foreign intelligence court. in december 2017, the chairman, ranking member and subcommittee chairman graham were allowed to view a four fisa applications relies on the dossier to seek surveillance of mr. carter page as well as numerous other fbi documents related to mr. steele. now, the next paragraph, this is interesting. this is highly redacted here. i wonder what's in that. then the following braff, paragraph, follow along, similarly in june of 2017 the former fbi director comey testified publicly before the select committee on intelligence that he had briefed president-elect trump on the dossier's

>> would that be the fbi telling him? >> know, because the fbi has not told him. when somebody buys a weapon, there should be a background check. just basically a check at the gun dealer have to do to make sure the individual doesn't ba have a criminal record. that will go through stages. the fbi database on criminal records. >> but that is all.the fbi doesn't crack people who buy weapons.they just provide the background check for a criminal check on gun purchases. or the gun dealers. and it sounds like he was able to go in, violentand leave that day but there was no way. like there are other states . >> and i know criminal record, they have background check via the database. >> and you know, the fbi is contacting local law enforcement saying your are the people in your area who purchased 11. at this point, cruz was under the radar to everybody other than locals who interacted with him and see him as a disturbed individual . nobody else knows who he is at this point as far as law enforcement. >> host: for these local people, his neighbors, if they were alerted to

what's happened with the fbi. but we are going to rebuild the fbi. it will be bigger and better than ever. but it is very sad when you look at those documents and how they have done that is really, really disgraceful. >> disgraceful. okay. well, paul ryan may not be being up front about this. but members of his own caucus are saying up front. absolutely about indicting the fbi. here's congressman jeff duncan who tweeted today having read the member ole fbi is right to have grave concerns to target political adversaries. that is honest assessment. and tonight some republicans are saying slow down. senator john thune saying the white house, quote, needs to pay careful attention to what our folks who protect us have to say about how this bears our international security. and senator jeff flake tonight is joining jeff coops to say president trump should heed the warning of the justice department, and fbi and reverse his purported decision to release the memo. risks under mining u.s. intelligence gathering. politicizin

joining me, retired fbi special agent bobby tacom. bobby, you worked at the fbi.hen you were there and how it is now? >> well, i'll tell you, trish, i spent 27 years as an fbi agent in the street. in 27 years i spent a total of two days inside fbi headquarters. i'm not an headquarters' guy. i'm not here to justify the behavior of a group that rose to the hea head and had those polil biases. that group of people that kind of subjugated the top positions of fbi headquarters are on their way out. trish: yeah, some of them. >> some of them. trish: christopher wray doesn't even see any bias. here you're saying there's bias. beall saw the bias. you saw the text between lisa and peter. >> it's undeniable. trish: and christopher wray is saying no, none of that. haven't seen it. he doesn't recognize that. i question whether he can actually do the job. >> i wasn't in favor of him when he was nominated. but right now i think we need a little consistent leadership at the top and i don't agree that he should step down for the governor of florida getting his political pound of

even if the fbi tries to protect them, partisan members of congress will be able to twist the fbi's arm to get that information out. int: we will go to bill theory, pennsylvania -- in eerie , pennsylvania. caller: are you related to judy woodruff? i think this memo has served its purpose for the republicans in a specialll lead to prosecutor because there are so many angles to it. i want to ask you, have you ever heard of a gentleman by the name of daniel hoffman? guest: i cannot say i have, the name does not immediately ring about. caller: write his name down. he was cia station chief in moscow. i saw him yesterday and he had some interesting things to say. see if you can connect with him because he might be able to help you connect the dots. can you please do us all a favor, refresh our memories and how the obama administration pped onropped -- eavesdro the senate intelligence committee. i remember hearing dianne feinstein talk about that. refresh our memories on how the fbi screwed up the marathon bombers in boston when they put the bomb on the marathon up there. we never got the full

to the fbi.nstead, the application still relied primarily, remember, the bulk of the application as the folding clinton bought and paid for dossier. go back -- scroll down my hair, the other weight. against the application, we are six months into this thing, relying on his credibility even though he fbi knew he was not credible at that point. especially as it relates to the media incident, which pushed him out of the fbi's way in october, the same month the first fisa warrant was granted. here is what is on page six. whether mr. steele lied about his media contacts is relative for at least two reasons. it's relevant about his credibility as a source. second, it is relevant to the reliability of his information gathering efforts. mr. steele conducted his work for fusion gps compiling the pre-election memoranda between june and early november 2016. there was this british litigation, it talks about it and that grassley and graham memo tonight. mr. steele acknowledged briefing journalists about the d

trying to appease fbi, they recast memorandum, make changes they think will go over with the fbi and fbi director that this president appointed. outcomes today's fbi response saying there are emissions and oppose the release of the memorandum. i thought that the president of the united states ran th the government, head of state, people had to get in line. >> he is. lou: why is he putting up with this bull. >> he shouldn't. if they alter that document, they have damaged all credibility they might have on this issue. house -- this committee has oversight, in our lifetime we had fbis under first director hoover, corrupt. we had an fbi deputy director who fed all stuff to boob bob woodward, top the that agency from time it time, you get bad people, i think that reality most of them. lou: clear we have very good people, doj, and in fbi. >> and on after 8 years of obama people, it is no doubt, that key thing is that this president has turned everything el that obama did, he needs to turn it and have full, full compliance with what he wants. he wants to release this document as circumstanc

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fbi's overall efforts. if people mistakenly have the impression that the fbi can't be trusted, you know the bread and butter of the fbi is to go out and talk to people. that people trust them to give them tips, information, and mostly to get sources. >> yeah. >> and if you are an fbi agent who has a source, you know, you want to be able to show that you can protect them and the fbi is now -- >> yeah. >> thank you. coming up, combining more breaking news. what president trump wanted from his point man. and it may sound familiar. stick around. ith him? he's happy. your family's finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet meals. and they only take 15 minutes to make. augh! (family giggling) oh my. birds eye voila! so veggie good. ♪ get ready for the wild life with one a day men's. a complete multivitamin with key nutrients, plus b vitamins for heart health. your one a day is showing. looking for a hotel that fits... whoooo. ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to fi

fbi had a role. lawmakers had a role in that, there is no way a 19-year-old who can't rent a car or buy wine or beer should have a a ak 4, assault rifle used in military type environment to kill many, many people at the same time. i think there is enough blame to go around, but i want to make sure we lay the blame. just like dylann roof in charleston should have never had a gun considering all the things, this man in florida should never have his hands on a gun. >> that's right. >> i don't think someone who is crazy have the ability to have a gun, let alone a gun like that. >> trish -- >> trish, trish. trish: once more to the boyd. i have to wrap it up. we have to pay some bills. >> trish this is where we have to get comfortable having uncomfortable conversations. i agree we have to have a difficult conversation about guns and guns safety. we have to have a difficult conversation about depression and suicide and all of those things but what we also have to recognize washington is not going to be answ

are you not the fbi?here are only 13 nikolaus cruz in this country here to support this lame excuse they trot out messages brief with the fbi talking points. >> the fbi is very limited in what it can do with this type of information. they're looking for federal crimes that they can prosecute. on its face, this single posting does not give you that. he will not be able to take into prosecute and save improved who posted this, will you charge them? the answer is no. >> they say the fbi agents blessed them, they're working within the guidelines and adding that they cannot follow someone for protective first amendment rights. really? working within their guidelines? do the guidelines tell them to ignore school shooters? or threats to kill? isn't the job of an fbi special agent, by the way, they are all special agents. isn't their job to investigate? you really want to talk about guidelines as we bury our children? google told youtube to remove this message. the fbi issued a preservation order to save the elec

steele left the fbi or the fbi got rid of him? >> the fbi got rid of steele.matter of fact, i'm sure steele, if you wanted to leave on his own terms, would have wanted to get paid the money he was owed by the fbi. he was terminated and never received that payment for what he was offered. the other issue with it is that, it was known by the doj and fbi way before he was actually terminated that he was a compromised bad source. you reference the yahoo where they tell the fisa court that the -- that steele was not a direct source to yahoo when it turns out in fact he was. talking to yahoo and other media outfit, which is why he doesn't receive the payment. >> i want you to take a listen to nunes, the chairman of the house intelligence committee said on fox news tonight. >> i don't believe that somebody like mr. page should be a target of the fbi. >> i know you are aware of this. carter page had previously been a target of the fbi. he had been surveilled in 2013 and 2014, suspected of being swept up by a russian agent. i'm wondering if it's not possible that there

the current fbi director, c christopher wray argued that tht names of fbi officials in the memo oughto be redacted, hidden from public view, why? how would that serve the publict interest? ite would protect the fbi and is always that wasay the point. all of this should make you nervous, the dishonesty mixed with self-righteousness. you wonder how many people at the fbi believed that carter page was a russian agent. they don't believe that now. if they did, he would be in handcuffs. yet he still a free man. civil liberties has been violated and his reputation has destroyed. democrats could not care less. they know it's a lie but it's all irrelevant to them. even if he is crushed in the process. ten years ago, donald trump will be gone and the democrats will have forgotten that they once pretended to fear russia as a threat to our democracy. but our law enforcement and intelligence agencies will remain as long as the country stays intact and we have got to trust them. we give them incredible powers, including the power to take human life. we allow them to operate in secrecy because they

the fbi is distracted. this one fell through the cracks but what is more concerning to me, is that how many more tragedies must fall through the cracks before we have a wake-up call at the justice department and the fbi? >> so i guess my question, who do you hold accountable then? these were all republican appointees. chris wray was specifically brought in by donald trump -- trish: i'm not getting partisan on you, i do hold christopher wray partly responsible. go to this clip, christopher wray doesn't get there is bias and a preoccupation hating trump there at the fbi right now. and that makes me question whether or not he is really the guy to lead this organization. roll the tape. okay. we don't have it yet. we're get it for you because he was in testimony in senate intel hearings just last tuesday and he was asked point-blank, is there any bias at the fbi to which he said no. here we go. >> there is no shortage of opinions about our agency, just like every other agency up here and i'm a big believer in th

then last night, also, continued support for the fbi, including the former fbi director james comey, so all of this continues. there is full support here from many people towards the fbi. >> shimon, we appreciate the reporting in d.c., thank you, my friend. >>> let's dig into all of this. with me is sam baiul, former federal prosecutor, professor at law at duke university, bobby ciccone and tom dupre at the justice department. we have it all covered, the legal side, the fbi, the doj. gentlemen, this morning, tom, let me begin with you, you were at doj, what do you make of the president's tweet this morning, a clear attack on what looks to be wray and rosenstein, saying they politicized this investigation to help democrats and republicans and these are two republicans appointed by the president. >> poppy, i agree with that. i think the president's tweet this morning was extraordinary, to be sure it is consistent with similar tweets he's sent before. i think you put your finger on it, that from my perspective what is extraordinary about this, he's going after his own people. the presid

remember, this process does not just affect the fbi. it's not the tools that just the fbi uses.tigative agencies and intelligence agencies use it as well. it's a much larger scope. i'm surprised we're not hearing from those heads as well. >> also, gloria, i want your mediate reaction from this, learning rick gates, who has been charged by mueller, he was one of the deputies, the trump campaign chairman, that attorneys representing rick gates are now withdrawing from the case according to a new court filing they provided a reason to the court, but it's under seal of the we don't know what that reasoning is. attorneys for the -- but there are new attorneys representing rick gates, tom green, for example, part of the defense team. he and attorneys from his firm received entering the building where the special counsel mueller works. that happen today. it's raising all sorts of questions. earlier attorneys are gone. new attorneys are now walking into the building where mueller works. what's that suggest? >> well, the obvious thing that it suggests is that gates cut a deal, that come

>> this is not about fbi redacts this. is an administration says their executive branch is deep state trying to oust the president. we saw this when he say the deep state national security adviser susan rice to unmask things about citizens inappropriate. they say that is not correct. now we are saying deep state is incorrectly connecting information about this investigation. this is larger than the memo suggests we'll reveal national security. i don't think we will. this is about unique experience when a republican president and congressman tell us that republican department of justice and republican fbi are actually representative of the deep state. it's us versus them and the president has said if you don't believe in me, you are off the team. >> and kirsten, this issue of the team, just to make the point, president trump picked christoph christopher wray his fbi director. he was not involved as memo tries to cherry pick there was abuses at the highest levels of the fbi. but wray is coming out and saying this memo is ina

maria: let me set out right off the bat that both of you having worked at the fbi with the fbi, is theerience of having experience with the fisa court, you were both so disappointed to actually learn what you have learned. let me kick it off with you congressman because you saw the underlying data. what's most important that we need to understand from this memo? >> the most important thing not just from the memo but from the underlying documents that i have seen is that full disclosures weren't made to the fisa court and why that's so important, maria, the fisa court unlike any other court in america including the supreme court doesn't hear both sides. this is a court where the government comes forward and in this case they ask for surveillance on american citizens. it's up to the government to make full disclosure and in this case, in asking for a warrant against someone associated with the trump campaign disclosure was not made that that dossier that was the basis of it was paid for by hillary clinton's campaign, and prepared by someone who has an expressed desire to keep donald trum

to be true or the fbi is lying. someone is not telling the whole truth here. before, christopher wray showed the memo, steven boyd, also raised concerns. the department of justice said they would like to review it and so as the fbi. john mclaughlin served both the democrats and republicans president, had this to say. if the nunes memo is about four pages, it is a careful pick bowl of cherries. a real debate needs both. someone fears that. now, keep in mind there is ample reporting of a number of factor and not just the so-called dossier, the white house and supporters of the president have been saying repeatedly the fbi and the justice department are all tainted and this dossier is a big part of it. does those white house talking point sounds like the nunes memo? did the white house consults on republicans of the hill who raise this memo. quigley says was any of this done during conversations or consultations of anyone in the white house. no nunes says as far as i no, no. mr. chairman, does none of the staff members

fbi. we learned from reporting yesterday that the agent accused by republicans of targeting trump was actually behind a decision that crippled the clinton campaign. and if john kelly really wants full disclosure, then hope hicks has questions to answer after reportedly saying last year, that potentially incriminating emails, quote will never get out. the reporter behind that story joins us in just a moment. of course, the president could always settle it once and for all by agreeing to speak directly with bob mueller. that is, if he doesn't fire him first. that's where we are, welcome to morning joe on this thursday, february 1st. with us, veteran columnist and msnbc contributor mike barnicle. republican strategist and political commentator, susan del purse yoe and political reporter for the "washington post" and moderator of washington week on pbs, robert costa. we'll get to the nunes memo in a moment. but first your take on two reports from yesterday that really could frame all that we'r

chips with the fbi director.hat we have seen from the current intel committee, which is a departure from the past, is not only the politicization but the inability to back it up. devin nunes had to admit to a reporter that he hadn't read the fisa application. he said he recused himself but he really hasn't. this is part of an ongoing war, you know when you started this segment, how they're attacking the fbi. it used to be republicans garnered votes with their conservative base by attacking the department of education, the epa, and the department of health and human services. they've now added law enforcement to that. and that is a terrible platform for one of the major national parties to be running on. >> the other agencies aren't doing much better. all right. when we come back, there's a lot of anger. that's the blunt assessment of one law enforcement official about the impact of the president's relentless attacks on the fbi. >>> josh campbell isn't a household name. but when he announced his resignation from t

so the fbi lied to a fisa court judge.y used the dossier full of russian lies to spy on the trump campaign just before an person person who election. and america's powerful tools of intelligence were weaponized to spy on opposition campaign during an election year. now, the key people involved need to explain themselves. here with reaction tonight we welcome back to the program former u.s. attorney for the district of columbia joe degeneral have a judicial watch president tom fitton, fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett. all right, joe, it's a lot to absorb. a lot of information. but, it's so telling and sad that this could happen in the united states of america. give us your general take aways from the new information today thi. >> this is piling on in a very big way. very sad ending for the doj and fbi officials. wray is gone becausmccake was sa result of christopher wray being briefed by a number of people who have access to the investigation that's underway, which is going to lead to criminal charges against a number o

of the fbi. i don't personally care whether either memo comes out, but there should be the same standard applied to both. >> scott? >> i will frame this a different way. this memo comes over to the white house. it's ten pages. we don't know what's in it. clearly there's sensitive information in it. and they say, we're not going to release it tonight. we are inclined to do so. the president orders his own administration to work with the democrats to arrive at a solution and, tonight, congressman schiff of the committee has said, i will gladly work with the administration to come to a memo that can be released. now, i've said from the beginning i thought if one comes out, both should come out, and i think it strengthens the white house's argument about the nunes memo if they show the confidence to let the democratic memo come out. and if they don't ultimately release this memo, i'll come on here and raise holy heck about it. but i think it is prudent to measure twice and cut once on sensitive infor

if you are going to trust the fbi, you have to trust the fbi with regard to the democratic memo as well as the republican memo. the nunes memo came up last week and the fbi objected and the white house said we don't care, we are going to release it. today, the democratic memo comes up and the fbi objects. oh, we have to respect the opinion of the fbi. i don't care whether either memo comes out but there should be the same standard applied to both. >> scott? >> i will frame it a different way. the memo comes to the white house, ten pages, we don't know what's in it. we are not going to release it tonight. we are inclined to do so. the president orders his members to work on it. congressman schiff says i will gladly work with them to come up with a memo to be released. i said if one comes out, both should. it strengthens the white house's position if they let the democrats come out. i think it is prudent to mesh twice and cut once on sensitive information. if the memo comes out and they arrive at a solution they are happy with, we will all be better for having the caution here. >> why did

and a courageous person did just that to the fbi and the fbi failed to act.omething, say something is an incredibly important tool and people must have confidence in the follow through from law enforcement. the fbi director needs to resign. two voices i want to bring in, former fbi supervisory special agent josh campbell and cnn legal analyst paige payne. we got that acknowledgement of the screw-up from the fbi director but now the governor wanting christopher wray to resign. what do you make of that? >> with respect to the statement and the review under way right now by the fbi, obviously, it's heartbreaking. it's tragic. it's something they're going to look back and do an after action of what happened, how did we miss this? the fbi knows, it has a long story, even proud history. but they know in order to maintain credibility as an institution they not only have to announce successes but they also have to step up whenever mistakes are made and say we have something that, you know, we did wrong. we need to be held accountable. i think that's what we saw today

would that be the fbi tells them? guest: the fbi is not told -- i take that back. when someone buys a weapon there should be a background check. gun dealer hase to do to make sure the individual does not have a criminal record. that would go through the fbi database on criminal records. that is all. the fbi does not track people who buy weapons. they just provide the background check for a criminal check for gun purchases for the gun dealers. tosounds like cruz was able buy the weapon and leave that day. there is no waiting period. host: having no criminal record, he cleared an instant background check via the fbi database? .uest: correct in the fbi is not contacting local databases saying this is who in your area just bought a weapon. other than locals that identify him as a disturbed individual, nobody else knows who cruz is as wise law enforcement goes. host: for the local people, his neighbors, the police alerted to officials, isl there something that they can do that gets somebody like him on the radar screen so that when he that thaty a gun information is ale

we have the fbi and the d.o.j. saying the opposite and they're the ones with the expertise. >> if i could ask you, i wonder if there is -- i don't know the right way to say this. but you've had a series of incidents where the president has i don't know if interfered is too strong a word. he fired his fbi director because of the russia investigation. the new fbi director is in effect defying the president on this, right? the attorney general, when he fired comey, appointed a special counsel which is certainly not an outcome the president wanted. do you see here the institutions in effect standing up to this pressure? >> i certainly hope so. institutions are vital to our justice system. you're right, past is prologue to these things. last week christopher wray threatened to resign if he forced andrew mccabe out as well. somebody clearly at his hearing when he was talking about the firing of jim comey made the statement, the fbi will continue even without its leader because the work of these men and women is so vital,

this is what the fbi says.hat on january 5, 2018, a person close to nikolas cruz contacted the public access line, tip line, to report concerns about it. the caller provided information about cruz's gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts as well as a potential of him conducting a school shooting. very specific information here. the statement goes on to say that the fbi, we have determined that these protocols, that protocols were not followed here and that the information provided by this caller was never followed up on. it says that the information should have been forwarded to the fbi miami field office where appropriate investigative steps would have been taken. and it appears by this statement that those investigative steps were not taken. the protocols were not followed. the fbi says the information was not provided to the miami field office and no further investigation was conducted at that time. and then the fbi director in this statement issues a stateme

including former fbi director james comey and former fbi, former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe. so the war on the fbi has now moved to the senate. a lot to get to today. let's kick it off with our reporters. kelly o'donnell is at the white house. pete williams is in our washington newsroom. and betsy wood destructive. pete, let's start with you. the fbi does not want this memo out there. they are wrangling for redactions. what can they do >> i don't think they've decided. here's the deal. if the president says i don't have any objection, in other words poses no objection to the house releasing the memo then we get into this strange situation where it becomes public but not declassified. it may sound weird but only the executive branch can declassify something not the judicial branch. >> we have a hard in with congressman schiff who is being interviewed right now. let's listen. >> have to let everybody know about this? >> during the hearing, when the republicans took up a vote to put their memo out and not put the democratic memo out jim hines asked the chairman is this memo you'

how does the fbi fit into that. we just learned some very interesting if not completely clear information from the head of the fbi director. i want to bring in chris cillizza, who is here with me to discuss this. there is a lot to unpack here from russian meddling in the election and how that feaffects the midterms coming up. the timeline had it comes to rob porter, you know what, pause for a moment, chris, let's return to the testimony at the senate intelligence committee. >> -- they're out in the community, and i can tell you the community values what they do on the island. >> thank you. and an op-ed by a number of former intelligence analysts call the nunes memo and the release, quote, one of the worst cases of politization of intelligence in modern american history, unquote. you said you had concerns about that memo. i know you can't get into the gritty details of that, but can you -- can you say in your view whether or not one of those concerns is that it may have selectively cherry picked information without p

obviously improperly to the fbi. not once, not twice, about four times including by rod rosenstein the memo alleges misled the court. we can't wait -- what is the justice department going to do? what did ray know about this and why is any taking steps to inform the fbi? mr. mueller, when did he know? for the russia collusion narrative, the fundamental basis for his investigation, what did he know and when did he know it about the clinton involvement in his investigation? >> harris: i want to stop right there, what you've said is ground shaking and you're the first person who said it and i've been covering this since it came out. the memo is devastating. it's a devastating blow at the mueller investigation. paul ryan says the two don't connect. let's watch us together and get your reaction. >> what this memo is is congress doing its job in conducting legitimate oversight over a very unique -- if mistakes were made in individuals did something wrong, this memo is not an indictment of the fbi, of the department of justi

the fbi agents association appreciates fbi director chris wray standing shoulder to shoulder with the women of the fbi as we work together to protect our country from criminal and national security threats. as director wray noted, fbi special agents have remained steadfast in their dedication to professionalism and we remain focused on our important work to protect the country from terrorists and criminals, both domestic and international, special agents take a solemn oath to our country and to the constitution and the american public continues to be well served by the world's preeminent law enforcement agency. so with me, someone who actually knows christopher wray is garrett graph. he's our cnn contributor and we keep talking about his frustration and we know that the president is frustrated because obviously he wants to release this memo, but chris wray, what kind of man is he? tell me what you know. >> i think that there was a perhaps a misunderstanding last summer when christopher wray was initially put up for this job that he was going to be some sort of sympathic trump stooge,