the process with the fbi was extensive. we took several months to get through a manuscript that normally according to fbi policy typically takes about 30 days. i understand that the issues i talk about are particularly relevant, they're timely, they're national security issues. i think all of those things combined to make it a much more arduous process. nevertheless, i am very happy with the product that came out of that process. and glad to have the fbi seal of approval on it. >> one of the things that is not in the book which obviously has gotten a lot of attention is the conversation with rod rosenstein about the 25th amendment. this morning, you said you didn't put it in the book because you didn't want it to be a distraction. it's certainly a distraction now. if you didn't want to have it be a distraction, why bring it up at all? >> i didn't bring it up. it was both that and the comments that rod made, the deputy attorney general made about offering to wear a wire. both things that were shared with the press without my

now you have the fbi in rod's view probably running amok. the weight he was carrying at that moment when the department of justice was under assault and people were worried it may never operate the way it was supposed to again, andrew mccabe stood in the appreciate and said i'm going to be the person that stands up and makes sure not just this investigation is protected but independent justice department and independent fbi are protected. >> chuck rosenberg. >> yes, what you saw today -- by the way, i thought that was just a stunningly good interview, nicolle. what you saw today was someone who is thoughtful, careful, deliberate. i don't get the sense at all andy think he got any joy from this. he informs the breach. he had extraordinarily difficult things to do during a period of time when the fbi was in sir turmoil and the things we learned is they opened a full field investigation and they added it to an existing case. the other thing they found very interesting, nicolle, is this notion that we surmised that the spin off cases were done w

by the fbi? >> yeah.e asked, we've asked for him to, the president, to declassify certain things so we can see them. michael horowitz's report is due late spring, early summer. the u.s. attorney who jeff sessions tapped to do his investigation, we haven't heard anything from mr. huber. so we have -- lou: he's a fiction, is he not? he surely can't even exist. >> well, it's -- i haven't seen him, i haven't heard the first thing -- lou: what is the mindset in washington, d.c. in this federal government that you can lose laptops, you can lose phones of the most culpable, guilty actors in this entire sordid scandal, and all these texts and they investigate -- the investigators, and, by the way, two years goes by, a year goes by, a year and a half -- >> yeah, it's frustrating. lou: that's insane! somebody is playing a very obvious game. >> yeah. and it's what drives the american people most crazy, is this double standard. one set of rules for you and i and the folks i get the privilege of representing, but a di

had the fbi not acted, we would be talking about why they were derelict in their duty. >> the fbi wasgating multiple trump associates. the president admitted that the russia investigation played a role in his decision to go ahead and fire comey. was there a concern at the time that donald trump was compromised by russia? >> we look at some of the reporting. as a former employee, there are non-disclosure agreements that i have to be bound by. looking at what mccabe said in his book, which is cleared by the fbi and great reporting by cc c cm nn, concern there was actions benefitting a foreign government. look to michael flynn. he was in contact with the russian s and lied about t. you have the president asking comey to go easy on michael flynn. when that didn't happen, he fired him. there would be bells going off inside the minds of the investigators. why is the president acting in this way? that's the direct that we see based on some of the reporting. the fbi trying to find out, is there a threat? the last thing is we're -- this is a big development. we have andy mccabe, he has been em

agents, current fbi agents.e is doing what he did last night further misled the american people and actually manipulated the american people. because now suddenly he's a victim. after perpetrating, along with jim comey, severe damage to the fbi because of their now what we know clear biases, he is going on a book tour copped to, the newly promoted mccabe out of political disdain took it upon himself to become the ultimate resistance hero. a counter intelligence the sitting president of the united states. push for a special counsel and openly discusses removing the duly elected president, commander in chief from office. folks on the other network are calling this guy a patriot. let's discuss with a couple of the greats. kevin brock former fbi assistant director and terry turchie, counter terrorism. kevin you recently penned a piece calling mccabe's reemergence embarrassing, why? >>> i think terry will agree, for former fbi agents and current fbi agents right now, what andrew mccabe is doing, what he did last nigh

agents, current fbi agents.oing what he did last night further misled the american people and actually manipulated the american people. because now suddenly he's a victim. after perpetrating, along with jim comey, severe damage to the fbi because of their now what we know clear biases, he is going on a book tour to sell books. >> laura: everyone is selling books. all of former fbi guys are pushing their books. got to make money. >> it's amazing to us. he is trying to rehabilitate himself with the damage is done and to do more damage. he has claimed, as you just pointed out, when he became acting director, he went on a binge of opening cases against the president of the united states. on the "60 minutes" interview last night, he was deceptive and misleading -- >> laura: how so? >> he stated that he had clear and articulable facts for opening up in fbi -- >> laura: what were the facts? i'm still waiting for the facts. >> he said the president criticized our investigation, that was number one. not a reason for open

fbi.ou see what has happened at the fbi, they are all gone, they are all gone, but there is a lingering stench and we are going to get rid of that too. do you agree with the president's characterization of the department of justice and the fbi? as the attorney general, please tell me why you would or would not agree with that statement. >> since i have become the acting attorney general, i have reestablished a positive relationship with the department of justice and the white house. you establishcame that relationship. what was your opinion of the 115,000 men and women who dedicate their lights public service -- their life to public service before you had your current opinion. >> i have a very high estimation of the men and women at the department of justice. they are some of the most exceptional, hard-working people -- >> you disagree with the president's characterization, because they don't deserve it, mr. whitaker, and you supervise, you manage them. and you don't agree with the preside

he fires the fbi director. he can fire whomever he wishes it has no effect on the investigation and hasn't interfered with funding as mccabe testified everything is going along seemingly with the investigation. there is no obstruction but you have the inherent power to hire and fire pretty much as he wishes this seems to be a pretext. what do you think quick. >> or the abysmal misunderstanding or constitutional order and the power of the president. there are many checks and balances united states congress and the house of representatives. the founding generations with that impeachment process put in place and the people's house the senate will eventually. >> and there is a 25th amendment process. and then nobody involved in that decision appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate. that is a huge check and a balance in the presidential appointment and senate approval. and the unaccountable branch for the leadership with that is the accountable part of the executive and to take some very strange steps

the fbi defends its process as thorough and fair. critics say the issue is that the bureau won't discuss the details. >> because they are investigating themselves, there is some question about the independence and transparency involved in those reviews. >> i would like an honest account of what happened. you're not really reassured that the person was given additional training or out there with a gun. >> reporter: a family shattered, awaiting answers from an fbi reluctant to provide them. ken dilanian, nbc news, houston. >>> still tonight, outgunned. the army's effort to develop guns that could shoot as far as russian guns. >>> and also remembering an air force trail blazer. lester holt on a woman who rose to the top, breaking through barriers. >>> we are back now with a look at how the u.s. army will fight the wars to come. potentially with russia. one of the challenges, developing a new generation of artillery systems that could make this country more competitive with russia's fire power. >> we want to make sure we could outgun the

former acting fbi chief, andrew mb kab. then america on alert in the age of trump. >> trying to gather targets. >> prosecutors try to say a foiled mask terror plot targeting msnbc hosts when "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening. coming to you from los angeles, california. breaking news tonight. house oversight chair announced that michael cohen's public testimony is back on. it was on, off, now back on again. he will appear right in the middle of president trump's trip to vietnam to meet kim jong-un. according to a memo released by the committee, he'll dress a number of topics including the debts and payments related to efforts to influence the 2016 election. compliance with financial disclosure. the president's compliance with tax law and public laws to it -- and new reporting bolstering the possibility that the mueller investigation iseneding soon. and special counsel robert mueller is nearing the end of his historicings have into russia election interference and expected to submit a confidential report as early as

and fed to the fbi and then.ustice to launch this dilating investigation without evidence, without probable cause. and americans today, especially, given what we learned from andrew mccabe, should be alarmed and disgusted at the devious and malevolent acts. >> sean: this isn't rank and file. this is just a few horrible, powerful actors. >> unelected top officials in law enforcement sought a coup d'etat by misusing the constitution. >> sean: let me go to dave. we'll stay on the criminal side of this for just a minute, the legal side of this. because when you get to the heart and soul of all of this, they saved hillary clinton. every other american would have been indicted for obstruction and felony of the espionage act. they protected their favored candidate, then they start this whole process russia investigation. they all hate trump, and then they had the insurance policy and we have testimony that in m may, when mueller was appointed, up to that point, lisa page, all these other people saying, we don't have any

the men we're talking about, former director of the fbi, james comey, former acting director of the fbi andrew mccabe, attorney rod rosenstein and mr. trump. mr. trump spent his day bashing andy mccabe and rosenstein of pursuing an illegal treasonous plolt against his presidency. an illegal and treasonous plot against his presidency. this came after mccabe appeared on "60 minutes" defending and opening a move against mr. trump which result ed in his ousting back in march. apparently he wasn't the only one who feared the backlash back then. >> rosenstein took a little bit of time deciding whether to appoint a special counsel in this case. what were some of the things he was thinking about? >> rod initially wasn't convinced that we needed one, and then initially wasn't convinced we needed one right away. i think one of his concerns that he mentioned to me was that he was concerned what would happen to him if he appointed a special counsel. >> mccabe also described talks that he and rod rosenstein had after president trump fired comey, calling it a, quote, incredibly turbulent, incredibly

we sent transcripts of the case to the fbi and the fbi, in conjunction with the department of justice, wrote to the attorney of delaware, that the agent testified beyond the means of science. in layman's terms, the agent lied. soledad: when you are finally, after 39 years, being released, did people say, we are sorry? elmer: no one apologized. haven't heard, i guess what you would call people in positions of authority, have never humbled themselves to come to me and say, we were wrong. soledad: you seem to recall, but i think -- seem very calm, but i think i would be furious. it doesn't sound like anyone is being held accountable. will they compensate you in some capacity? elmer: i don't know. soledad: are you mad, furious? elmer: hurt. soledad: are there more elmer daniels right now who are incarcerated behind bars because of this flawed analysis by the fbi? elmer: i think there are more men, women, incarcerated like me, yes. soledad: you're not the only one. elmer: i'm not. soledad: would you agree with that? emeka: it wasn't just michael malone. there was a review of the fbi labora

in history to the fbi director, the fbi deputy director, the fbi general counsel, and all of individuals and senior post at the fbi, and fbi investigating a sitting president for possibly being a russian agent, being decimated while that investigation is still open. >> it's what a guilty person does, nicolle. it's what someone does when they don't want the investigators to uncover facts. i could argue against things that the bureau have done, judgments they made from actions they've undertaken. in fact i think there are a lot of criminal defendants out there today who would really push back on tactics that have been used by fbi agents. i think that's all fair game. but for a president to say basically the fbi as an institution was corrupt, untrustworthy and we shouldn't listen to a director so we will fire him, deputy director, we will fire him. it shows the president had a lot to hide. >> we heard so many people in law enforcement compare the president and his family to a mob family. how does that parallel play out when you look at his conduct, the tweets from the weekend when andy mcca

fbi had been under j. many years, was given total deference by the presidents of the united states, in the way they operated the fbi and handled intelligence supply by the fbi. you now have a president who really has contempt for the fbi, who suddenly is in control of the country. he has now fired the director, comey, of the fbi. i think mccabe sounds like someone who was somewhat panicked about what this president intended and what he was doing. but the larger question, of course, is, is that the job of the fbi at that point or is that the job of congress, to look at his behavior, to remove him from office if he's acting in a traitorous manner. that's really what mccabe was implying, that the president was acting like a traitor to his own country. of course, that would be an impeachable offense. i'm not sure it would be grounds to remove him under the 25th amendment, which was designed to remove a president who suffered from a medical or mental disability. >> right. >> it was not to remove a president who

of the fbi, andrew mccabe. thank you very much for joining us tonight. i know you've been through a bunch of these television discussions. let's start, actually, with the breaking news tonight which is jeffrey rosen and this question of what kind of experience should a deputy attorney general have, and apparently jeffrey rosen has served in the bush administration, served in the trump administration, but not in any capacity near the criminal justice system. >> well, lawrence, i don't know mr. rosen, so it wouldn't be proper for me to speak about his abilities or how he will do in the job, but i will say this. i've had the opportunity to work very closely with several deputy attorneys general, and it is, without a doubt, one of the hardest jobs i think that you could find yourself in in washington. the deputy attorney general essentially runs the day-to-day functioning of the department, oversees all of its operational capacity, all of the investigations that take place across not just the department but all of

comey was barred from any fbi space. the last thing i will say is that it is interesting hearing mccabe 's version because my version was -- i was getting calls from lawyers at headquarters saying we don't know if you can get on this airplane because we have all of these issues. i got pretty frustrated and switched off my phone. i knew that regardless of whether comey was getting home, i needed to get home. this was just political nonsense. this is the right thing to do regardless of how it looks politically. >> your two versions seem to be definitely in line when it comes to what seemed -- in the grand scheme it seems like an insignificant piece of this like the ride back. it seems to be symbolic of where the focus was. in the chaos of this aftermath that the president was so angry about him getting on the plane. >> i will add to that one point, after that comey was barred from fbi space. he wasn't allowed to pack up his office. it came down to the one view that you had the president watching television and seeing it pl

andrew mccabe, the former acting fbi director and author of "the threat: how the fbi protects americaage of terror and trump." good luck with the book. from new york, this is bloomberg. ♪ david: this is "balance of power." i'm david westin. the oscars are no stranger to politics. elected leaders have been known to trade pennsylvania avenue for hollywood boulevard, and one of our best known presidents spent his early career as a screen actor. last night, john lewis made an appearance, garnering a standing ovation before introducing "the green book," which would go on to win best picture. [applause] david: the acceptance speeches have long been a platform for stars to take political stand on equal pay t the iraq waro. last night was no exception, the only difference was a president who had once been a red carpet staple himself was now watching it on tv. after five nominations, spike lee away with his first academy award and he marked the occasion with choice words about the 2020 election. spike lee: let's all be on the right side of history. make the moral choice between love versus hat

don't forget about lying to the fbi. after all, that crime shouldn't only apply american war heroes like general flynn after you brag about oh we wouldn't do this in the obama administration and then have an andrew mccabe say you don't need a lawyer when he really did need one. and don't forget about also in all of this the illicit leaking baker, brennan, steel, clapper. when are they going to be held accountable. over the next year with a brand new attorney general william barr this country we have to decide. you want to save the united states, do you want to be a constitutional republic? you want actual justice under the law? do you want a dual justice system or do you want america to be handed off to your kids and grand kids as a banana republic? that's the choice america is facing tonight because a small group of pretty powerful high ranking unelected officials obviously were able to yield so much power over this country, our lives and your decisions and your choices at the ballot box. that's what happened. that's wh

and outside of the fbi. but he is saying some fascinating things today that we're all going to pay attention to, hallie. >> that is for sure, ken. ken dilanian, thank you. >>> let me bring in somebody who worked with andrew mccabe. greg broaugher. you know this man. what do you make of what he's been doing talking about this so publicly today. >> good morning, hallie. as ken indicated, this is fascinating and complicated. i did work closely with andy mccabe at the fbi. i knew him to be a very smart, very meticulous, very dedicated fbi agent. and i would imagine, i fully expect that what he's talking about with respect to his interactions with the president and with doj officials was likely documented in notes that he took contemporaneously and also likely did share the details with a small group of other fbi officials in realtime. and so while his critics will point to the oig report and, of course, that report is, frankly, very damaging to his credibility, i have to think that with respect to these issues a

endures everyday. >> andy, you were deputy director of the fbi, acting director of the fbi for a briefnvestigations. you had on your desk everyday you went to work things that would cause most americans to stay in bed they're so scary. >> true. >> now, we're talking about the 25th amendment, you addressing the gang of eight about the possible investigation for conspiracy of the president of the united states. we've mentioned the word that the president might be an asset of russia, yet, as you go about your ordinary day today, most americans would say, we got all that. what are you having for lunch? what he's done in terms of labeling things as shocking or stopping you in your tracks, there's none of that. what's your feeling about that? >> it's incredibly concerning to me, one of the reasons i wrote the book. what i saw in my experiences, particularly in the last two years, with the repeated attacks, not just me personally but fbi intelligence community is this persistent effect of the institution we rely on to preserve this country as a free and fair democracy. the fact that doesn't s

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on morning tv former acting fbi director andrew mccabe revealing that the fbi feared president trump himself might be a threat to national security. we will have much more on that important story in just a moment. we begin with sanders in next year's election. ryan nobles joins me now with that. you covering this campaign. what is the level of excitement? >> that sound byte is a key part of his decision to run this time around tlmpt was a bit of deliberation as to whether or not he would make another run for president and the calculation that bernie sanders had to make was whether or not he believed he could beat donald trump. he said he was not going to get in unless he thought he can do that. the situation will be much different for bernie sanders than it was four years ago. many progressive issues that really made him a political superstar four years ago have been adopted by many of these democratic candidates. in many ways it has become the price of entry into this democratic field. earlier this morning sanders responded to the fact that so many of his fellow democrats have joine

while comey is across the country, visiting an fbi field office in l.a. comey promptly boards the fbi plane to fly back to washington, and hours later, the man whose taking over as acting fbi director meets with president trump in the oval office. >> i was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency and who might have done so with the aid of the government of russia, our most formidable adversary on the world stage. and that was something that troubled me greatly. >> reporter: the very next day, mccabe begins working with agents to launch both a criminal and counterintelligence probe. agents examined president trump's actions for firing comey while federal agents look into why trump is acting in ways that seem to benefit russia. at the exact same time, russians are taking center stage inside the oval office. on may 10th, one day after comey's firing prompts mccabe to consider probes against the president, trump hosts russia's foreign minister and the russian ambassador to the united states at the white h

fbi had backup plan to save russia probe evidence. quote, the fbi developed a backup plan to protect evidence in its russia investigation soon after the firing of fbi director james comey in the event that other senior officials were dismissed as well. the goal was to ensure that the information collected under the investigations which included probes of trump associates and possible coordination between russia and the trump campaign would survive the firings or the reassignments of top law enforcement officials. those officials included special counsel robert mueller who was appointed eight days after trump fired comey in may 2017. and in fact we now know that having that kind of backup plan was not a nuts idea since in fact almost all of the fbi senior leadership at the time mueller was appointed, people who were all there for the start of the investigation, they were all later fired or forced out of the agency. >> i knew there was work we needed to do to make sure the investigation was on rock solid ground. >> the associated press

the fbi defends its h process as thoro and fair. critics say the issue is that the bureau won't discuss the details. >> because they are investigating themselves, there is some question about the indnce and transparency involved in those reviews. >> i would like an f honest accounthat happened. you're not really reassured that the rson was given additional training or orut there with a gun. >> rr: a family shatter add waiting answers from an fbi reluctant to pvide them. ken delanian, nbc news, uston. >>> still tonight, outgunned. the arm's effort t develop guns that could shoot as far as russian guns. >>> and ao remembering a trail blazer. remembering a trail blazer. might mean a trip back to the doctor's office just for a shot. but why go back there when you can stay home with neulasta onpro? strong chemo can put you at risk of serious infection. in a key study neulasta reduced the risk of infection from 17% to 1%, a 94% decrease. neulasta onpro is designed to deliver neulasta the day after chemo and is used by most patients today.

carol: enter the fbi. they brought the fbi in then. erik: they did.wo weeks later, the coo, this gentleman was at an fbi seminar. the chicago field office was holding regular seminars on corporate espionage and he had been going to these in a bizarre coincidence, a special agent at the fbi field office was delivering a seminar on corporate espionage and the case study was something that is now -- that has now become a little more famous, huawei's attempt to steal intellectual property from the mobile lab outside seattle in 2012. the coincidence was just too powerful, he decided right then and there without ceo or board approval he had to talk to the fbi. he approached her during the break and briefed her on what akhan with huawei. he says the fbi took an immediate interest and things began to move very quickly. jason: that is an important thing to point out. any of us in our businesses, if we approach the fbi and especially as a small company, we think the fbi is going to proverbially pat us on our head and say, we will get back to you. stick it in a

mccabe was fired from the fbi last march. he says he also ordered an investigation to determine whether the president obstructed justice by firing james comey. sarah sanders saying he has no credibility and is an embarrassment to the men and women of the fbi and our great country. more now from cnn's laura jarett. >> good morning, as a new attorney general takes the reigns at the justice department, the former acting director at the fbi laying bare the ghosts of 2017. that period that rocked the justice department and the fbi, and in a new interview with 60 minutes, andrew mccabe says why he felt the need to open an obstruction of justice investigation after the president fired fbi director james comey, and confirms reports that the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein discussed recruiting cabinet members to possibly invoke the 25th amendment to remove trump from office and wearing a wire to record his conversations with the president. in a fresh statement on rosenstein's behalf, the justice department now saying in part, t

the fbi. he is not permitted to include anything that's classified or sensitive or it reveals something not publicly known about the investigation. and so i think that hamstrings him a little bit. certainly there is probably lots of very interesting interpersonal drama and behind-the-scenes things that will make for compelling narrative. but i think that it is unlikely that he discloses some of the additional information that he and rod rosenstein no doubt were privy too when they had these conversations about invoking the 25th amendment. those who are calling this a coup and that this was somehow improper, i think it just demonstrates how incredibly deeply concerned that they were discussing all options on the table, including the constitutional provision in the 25th amendment to consider removal from office. and so i think that beyond that which is publicly known, there must have been additional facts that they knew through the intelligence community and otherwise that caused them to be so d

>> mueller was in the fbi at the time.re >> director of the fbi. >> yes. >> to handle the enron case.e was deputy director at the time when they first started under leslie caldwell and the collapse of enron. so they targeted arthur anderson to begin with, accounting firm. >> they are investigating enron? >> yes. >> and they target arthur anderson, for what? >> for destroying evidence, it's what they called it but they did it by making up a crime, combining two separate statutes to create a crime out of something that wasn't. so they destroyed arthur anderson. >> how did they destroy arthur anderson? >> indicted it. >> financial advisers to enron?i >> auditors and financial advisers to enron. >> they manufactured crime by combining two different statutes? >> exactly. >> and at that time how many people worked for arthur anderson? >> 85,000 people. >> 85,000 people and weissmann was the lead investigator. >> lead prosecutor on that case. >> he reported in part, the director of the fbi at the time mueller. >> yes. >> okay. what did they do? >> well, they knew they were going to destroy th

what did the fbi do?. >> sean: my prediction, things are going to move more quickly and they're going to be criminal referrals and indictments on fisa, lying to congress and the issues. >> i agree. >> sean: it's going to happen. >> exactly. >> the people at the fbi who chose to hide this and take no action, because it was hillary clinton and barack obama, they ought to be held accountable. because if trump did this, there would be a raid at that individual's home. >> sean: we will stay on it, we won't stop. when we come back, is-on-1, tim tebow, about to make big news. and you won't believe what this guy is up to. and your mail. my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey

shortly after the standoff had ended, the fbi infiltratedmi the ranch. (phone ringing) >> hello, bundys. >> may i ask who's calling? >> okay, jt a second, let me get to him. >> narrator: they posed as a documentary film company, longbow productions, and filmed over several months. the otage has not been broadcast before, and we've concealed the undercover agents' identities and voices. >> this is ammon bundy. how are you doin w >> i don't knoif you could tell; there's a little level ofn yoow, uncomfortable, and just wanted to make sure thatl we're al the same page. >>e,o we looked you up onlin tyand we found just a pret simple website. >> i think i've... got what i wanted, so i feel a lot more comfortable about it. >> i never did once think i'd have to take a life.me i was never >> narrator: in the interviews, they wanted to know who plannedn the standoffwho was in charge. >> so, at the circumstance, or just in general? >> my dad was really skeptical, you know, he really was. then i end up basically talking my family into it. tod so, you know, they wen o

of the fbi. that report is not like anything i had seen. >> how so? how is it different? >> you know, investigative reports include all of the relevant evidence, not just those pieces of evidence that support the conclusion that you want to arrive at. you include all the information, all the material that you have to decisionmakers. and there is -- we have information, very relevant information that points in the opposite direction. that was apparently not included in that report. >> did you present it to them? >> well, we are in the process -- we did present it at the time. we are in the process of presenting these matters in a civil suit that i'll be filing in the near future, so for those reasons it's better that i don't discuss it. >> understood. but you above anyone, 21 years of experience at the fbi, should know that misleading questioners should be seriously problematic. >> of course. a 21-year career -- >> what is the mitigating circumstance there? >> well, i can't go into the details tod

andrew mccabe is the former acting director of the fbi. telling cnn it is possible that donald trump, the president of the united states is a russian asset. we're going to discuss that incredible statement in just a moment. >>> and president trump denying an explosive report that he tried to interfere in the sdny investigation into his former lawyer michael cohen. "the new york times" reporting that trump asked former acting attorney general matt whitaker to put a trump supporting u.s. attorney in charge of the investigation into cohen's activities. next month cohen starts a three-year prison term for campaign financi campaign finance violations and lying to congress. shimon prokupecz, susan glasser, max boot. max is the author of the corrosion of conservatism, why i left the right. let's listen to what andrew mccabe, the former head of the fbi said to anderson tonight. watch this. >> do you still believe the president could be a russian asset? >> i think it's possible. i think that's why we started our investigation, and i'm really anxiou

the number one and the number two at the fbi and other people in the highest of the fbi thought so little of the democratic elected president, thought so little that they needed a, quote, insurance policy. >> you're taking that from one text between lovers. >> that's enough for me. >> of course it is. out of convenience. >> well, wait a second, you want us to think that they're lovers but were they really, chris? where did they work? they worked at the fbi. they were top, top level. this all started with the dnc, clinton campaign funded dossier. i expect the clinton campaign to want to stop donald trump from being president. that's their job. i'm disappointed but i'm not surprised that most of the mainstream media tried to stop donald trump from being president but we should all be outraged, you included, that people at the highest level of the fbi tried to put their thumb on the scale to prevent this man from being president. >> they wound up leaking about the clinton campaign and not the trump campaign. comey came out and evicerated hillary clinton. they did a lousy job of hurting this

that's the fbi standard for opening a case.n we're in that place where we have those facts in our hands, we're obligated to conduct an investigation. doesn't mean that anybody did anything wrong. doesn't mean we're convicting anybody of a crime or throwing them in jail. it's simply, we're the investigators. it's time for us to do our job. whether that's the president of the united states or anybody else. >> do you still believe that the president might be compromised by russia or be some kind of asset? >> i think that that is possible. that's why we opened the case. i think we turned those investigations over into the most capable hands they could possibly be in and i await the results of that investigation as does every other american. >> walk down this road with me just one more step, because i get the idea of, well, looks like he's really messing with this, and you guys would have an argument about whether or not a president can obstruct justice, i'm sure that was something that was a familiar conversation with you in making

as this threat continues and develops and becomes more violent and more intense, the fbi, i'm sure, isoing through a process of constantly re-evaluating how their intelligence collection and their investigative resources are positioned against this threat. but i can tell you from my own experience it is one of the most concerning and closely watched threats that we have in the counterterrorism division at the fbi. >> and malcolm, in this case, closely watched enough that they were able to catch this one and stop it. >> well, you know, there's this saying with the fbi that if you -- if you're plotting an attack and you're trying to communicate with isis or al qaeda, you're talking to the fbi. they have gotten down international counterterrorism to a science here in the united states. it is the right-wing exists, and we're seeing the largest level of right-wing extremism since the 1980s militias movement. the problem is many people in this movement believe that law enforcement and organizations like the fbi are going to be sympathetic to them. it's just a question of manpower and resourc

even on the campaign trail if you think about it, the fbi was a point of contention there. there was no trust there. anybody who is claiming or wanting to put a wire to see if they can get incriminating evidence, there is no joking around there. there is serious mistrust on both sides there from the start, the very beginning. >> the other fascinating thing we have been talking about before we got these revelations from andy mccabe is we learned yesterday from judge jackson who said paul manafort intentionally lied and lied about interactions with konstantin kilimnik as campaign chairman and after. there are three things the judge ruled he lied about as you can see. it begs the question as we are looking at this and it's been brought up by a number of people. why so many people so close to the campaign, the president have lied about their interactions with russians. >> we are putting it on the screen. these are just the people who have been convicted or pleaded guilty of lying about the russians. >> yes. >> there is also roger stone who is under indictment. jared kushner, je

these are traditional fbi agents. now, again, the trump people will make them out to be biased individuals but the people who have known them for many years talk about their long careers and professional investigations. i think whatever sessions meant by that could not apply to them. >> barb, i have to ask you, what's the chance the new real attorney general, mr. barr, has an 8:00 a.m. staff meeting in a soundproof skiff at doj tomorrow where he's going to be sharing the keys to the kingdom, everything that is known thus far about this president on this matter, how is that going to work because that's going to instill him with certain knowledge that'll make this continually interesting. >> that's a safe bet that one of his first orders of business is to get a full briefing on what's going on in this case. no doubt that the public knows a fair amount about the case, but there is likely exponentially more evidence that robert mueller has uncovered. i think it would be part of his responsibility to find out what is going