amy: the fbi agents were armed? , from what we have learned, nine of the 11 fbi agents and personnel here at her home that they were armed. amy: and they immediately took her cell phone and her car keys and they said -- and they took her into that room that she has described as creepy? >> yes, that is correct. and at no point did they return her cell phone to her, return her car keys to her. we saw photographs which definitely showed her car was surrounded. there would have been no physical way for her to even leave it her vehicle if she wanted to. the argument that the defense made this week was a strong one. that she was basically being held here. amy: was she read her miranda rights? >> no. the fbi agents did admit to that. they did admit a no time did rights orher miranda feel they had to do that. amy: this is what is at issue, is that right? her lawyers want to suppress her statements to the fbi saying she was not read her miranda rights, not told she could remain silent or have a lawyer with her. >> that is co

those fbi agents had an answer for that too.quote, it was the department of justice that paid for the hotel room where lesin died. doj officials invited him to washington to interview him about the workings about rt. but lesin never made it to the interview. he died the night before it was scheduled to take place. so these anonymous fbi agents coming to buzzfeed and telling them that hours before mikhail lesin was scheduled to talk to u.s. investigators, he was murdered in his d.c. hotel room that report from buzzfeed news for obvious reasons went off like a rocket last year when they opened it. opened a cascade of fresh questions about that case and what the u.s. government would do about it if those agents were right. now today buzzfeed has added more supporting evidence to the dramatic claim. and this time it's from a different but familiar source. quote, the fbi possesses a secret report asserting that mikhail lesin was beaten to death by hired thugs in washington, d.c. according to the report, lesin fell out with a powerful

>> you think about her in here with two fbi agents, her back against the wall, to me it felt very intimidating. it would have been almost like a jail cell. amy: former u.s. intelligence contractor reality leigh winner appeared in court this week, in an orange jumpsuit and shackles, nine months after she was arrested and charged with violating the espionage act. the government claims she leaked a top-secret document about russian interference in the 2016 election to the intercept. we'll speak with her mother billie winner-davis, outside her daughter's home where she was arrested by fbi agents. then in 1961, an 18-year-old african-american student walked onto the campus of the university of georgia into the pages ofistory she came onef two blk stents to segregatthe hool. her ne? charlne huntegault . we wl speak wh legenda journali charlay hunter-gault. has to findration their own cause and embrace it or reject it, but i just want them to know that the power they have within them -- it was young people who changed the face of the south. brooding -- a brooding decades of a certain kind of law that

agents in general. this is the top of the fbi. mccabe will never have to testify in court, but an agent that lies is worthless in court. if it's in their background, it has to be disclosed to the defense. so you know, that example has to be set at the highest levels of the fbi. >> harris: did you ever see bias inside that agency when you were there more than two decades? >> i did not. i know that will sound like i'm being naive. in my 20 plus years, i did not see -- politics never came into play. we saw politics at the attorney general level, but under directors mueller, webster, sessions who had his problems, i never saw one slightest indication that politics was coming into play. in fact, we fought it really hard. we pushed back very hard on anybody that we thought was political influence. >> harris: you're getting what the criticism will be. your critics will say you didn't see it, so you led with that. quickly, mccabe is set to retire sunday. we have learned that the doj has up until tomorrow beyond a 5:00 deadline today in ord

a lot of former fbi agents that i spoke to say i hope he's going to get fired. that's all i've heard all day. they realize if they had done this, they would have been fired too. this is not just about michael horowitz at the doj. there's a prosecutor looking into the unmasking, the fisa abuse that has been taking place with carter page in particular. so we have a number of investigations and mccabe is worried. he's said over and over again, if i go down, i'm taking everybody else with me. >> laura: now we have ron kesler, author of the book "the secrets of the fbi on." ron, you're probably not surprised by any of this. i think harmeet's point, sarah made it, bobby made it, this could be the beginning of something really great for the country. namely we clean out the underbrush in our intelligence agencies. that's a big call and a big wish. it's time to clean out the problem people. if andrew mccabe lied and misrepresented as the us a of the inspector general will conclude, supposed to be calling balls and strikes at the fbi, not advocating on behalf of one perso

this is a quote by fbi agent or you're speaking in the words of fbi agent scott lawson. >> uh-huh. >> host: cute, nuevo laredo is on fire and i'm writing reports about it. break it down for us a little bit. >> guest: well, it's a weird dichotomy of being a border agent as he was. he was a fbi agent sent from tennessee down to laredo. his first post, and it was considered a hardship position, and there has been some pretty significant violence and conflict in mexico now, the drug war for the last, you know, ten years or more. so it's an odd sensation of being an agent being sent down to the border and then not being able to address the violence that was happening just across the river, and the duality of laredo and nuevo laredo which are really one community in the same, divided by a river, divided by the rio grande, but then just, outrageous violence that was happening in nuevo laredo still happening and then laredo is one of the safest cities in the united states. most people don't believe, but it's true. >> host: how did nuevo laredo go from being a tourist border town in many ways

[fbi agent] you're a brave man, your testimony will save lives. mr. stevens? this is your new name.

we're expecting here in a short while to hear from the lead fbi agent and the lead atf agent and the police chief here in austin. we're awaiting that press conference. they're still trying to determine the, the last we heard from them is we had no indication of a suspect or any kind of motive in this attack. this particular attack that happened on sunday night, very different from the three previous ones. the first three happened in the eastern edge of the city, and the victims were black and hispanic. that led authorities it say that they weren't willing to rule out the possibility that this could be some sort of hate crime. but that we have learned that the two victims that were injured and wounded in the attack last night are two young white males in their early 20s. how all of this now plays into this scenario is still very much up in the air. and also complicating here, matters, making this even far more disturbing and intriguing is that there was a trip wire believed to have been used in this latest explosion. all of this, even more bizarre considering that austin police just a

she's joining us from her daughter's home, where reality was questioned and arrested by fbi agents on june 3. we welcome you both to democracy now! billie winner-davis, let's begin with you. as you sit in reality's home, talk about what you understood happened that first weekend of june in 2017. walked us through this -- walk us through this. on june 3, reality returned

even more than that, you know, they don't have sufficient fbi agents to investigate.hogwash. >> well, i think they would be compromised out. that's what they are saying. >> judge jeanine: go get new guys. >> exactly. bring in a second special counsel has subpoena power to compel people to testify obtain documents from them with a grand jury. and can you do it very efficiently. you hire your own team of people. i know several former fbi agents who would be more than happy to return to the job to work for a new second special counsel. and get somebody in there like a joe digenova who is actually smart and competent and experienced and he would do it efficiently. >> judge jeanine: you know what's amazing is the idea that all of these fbi agents would be compromised or conflicted and there are no other guys to do or women to do the job. sarah, last word. >> and i agree with you there, judge. i mean, there are people within the bureau that are outstanding that are not compromised, that would be willing to do this and i think there is a lot more coming out in michael horowi

hehe was an fbi agent sent from tennessee down to lour ray doe considered a d hardship positio, and there's -- there's been some pretty significant violence and conflict in mexico now the drug, so odd sensation of being an agent being sent down to border but not being able to address the violence that was happening just across the river. and -- and thee duality of -- lour ray doe which are really one community in the same. divided by a river divided by rio grand. but this -- it is just outrageous violence that was happening still happening -- and then one of the face of ?is the united states which most people don't believe but it's true. [laughter] u how was it a tourist border town in many ways in the 80s and 90s to what it is today? >> well that's -- really what the book is about. part of it is about how the conflict arose in mexico a lot of it has to do with politics. it has to do unfortunately with corruption of politics. and -- this sort of widening -- inequality between the rich and the poor. i mean, we usually refer to it as a drug war but it's a lot more than that. obviously, the ca

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even more than that, you know, they don't have sufficient fbi agents to investigate.ash. >> well, i think they would be compromised out. that's what they are saying. >> judge jeanine: go get new guys. >> exactly. bring in a second special counsel has subpoena power to compel people to testify obtain documents from them with a grand jury. and can you do it very efficiently. you hire your own team of people. i know several former fbi agents who would be more than happy to return to the job to work for a new second special counsel. and get somebody in there like a joe digenova who is actually smart and competent and experienced and he would do it efficiently. >> judge jeanine: you know what's amazing is the idea that all of these fbi agents would be compromised or conflicted and there are no other guys to do or women to do the job. sarah, last word. >> and i agree with you there, judge. i mean, there are people within the bureau that are outstanding that are not compromised, that would be willing to do this and i think there is a lot more coming out in michael horowitz'

, it is what it is and my previous statements stand for themselves. >> this as new texts between fbi agenturfaced. you may have heard of them. revealing that in july of 2016 the two discussed strzok's friendship with a federal judge who would later handle, wait for it, general flynn's prosecution. so in these new texts, strzok and page discuss hosting a cocktail party with federal judge rudolph contreras who serves on the fisa surveillance court. on july 25th page writes rudy is on the fisc. did you know that? just appointed two months ago. strzok responds i did. we talked about it before and after. i need to get together with him. page continues: i can't imagine either one of you could talk about anything in detail meaningful enough to warrant recusal. strzok says really? rudy, i'm in charge of espionage for the fbi. any espionage fisa warrants that come before him, what should he do? given his friend oversees them? well strzok replies he is super thoughtful and rigorous about ethics and conflicts. and suggested a social setting with others would probably be better than one on one meeting

. >> we also spoke to a former fbi agent to get some perspective of a situation on the ground there in yountville. >> here's what greg shaffer told natasha earlier this afternoon by phone. >> again, i did 20 years in the fbi. my first four years in the fbi i was in san francisco assigned to the fbi san francisco s.w.a.t. team. then after that i spent seven years on the fbi hostage rescue team. so i have been on multiple operations similar to this, and what's happening right now is they're trying to tighten the ring around the person right now who is holding the hostages. they want to give him as little room as possible to escape if he wants to escape, and get as close as possible to affect an immediate response if he all of a sudden starts deciding to shoot the hostages. so that ring is getting tighter and tighter around him right now. negotiators will be talking to him, trying to get him to release the hostages and give himself up peaceably. but at the same time the s.w.a.t. teams are certainly divising a plan of how they will enter the dining room where he's holed up and to eliminate

i have former fbi special agent, a ali sufant with me. he served on the joint terrorism task force. he's also an outspoken critic of harsh interrogation tactics. ali, let me just ask you about this. 83 times, this particular suspect was waterboarded. this suspect was abu zubaydah. and in fact, you wrote in 2009 there was no actionable intelligence gained from using enhanced interrogation techniques on abu zubaydah that wasn't or couldn't have been gained from regular tactics. you actually interviewed him. >> yes, i interviewed abu zubaydah, and i didn't write this in "the new york times," i also -- i did, but that's not the only thing i did. i also testified under oath in congress about the same thing. about the fact that we did not know need to do enhanced interrogation techniques, enhanced interrogation techniques backfired. look, what we see today is the lack of moral, you know, reckoning. >> right, you're a former fbi special agent. >> yes. >> john mccain is a war hero and he's on the same side of this. he says, there are things you do and things you don't do if you have a moral

you have the judge who accepted the guilty plea, apparently had a personal relationship with the fbi agentsterrogated him, moreover from these text messages, it looks like those agents wanted to exploit that relationship. what it tells me ultimately is that these text messages ultimately have people at the fbi who were opposed to what -- a trump presidency and people who were plotting against a trump presidency. that seems to cross the line. >> bret: we do not know what we do not know, we said that with the mueller investigation, but listening to the senators last night, they know more than they are saying with the questions in this letter calling for a special counsel. to add this to what the concerns are that they list and it seems like maybe it is more likely that one comes about. >> it could, but i think in going back and looking at this time i think the most troubling part to your point that they did not share it all with congress. there is a motive to hide it. and i think that that is always a problem with this cover-up. now, being afraid of the largest pyongyang investigation as mr.

let's bring in former fbi agent who that the capture of the you know bomber.hank you for joining us. you have been watching and listening to breaking developments as we have. what are your thoughts, they possibly caught the suspect was what led to him if this is him? >> it is a little bit early. let's all hope and i hope the people of austin are hoping this is right and versus the guy. we will know soon enough. what i think has been going on in seen by most of us is they have been working for many days tracking down the components at the crime scene. they found out quite a bit but a couple days ago when the fedex packages were introduced into the mix especially the ones that did not detonate that is very significant. i would not be surprised if they got video surveillance and learned a lot from the records or trying to mail it. an example, timothy mcveigh was traced to the hotel where he filled out papers and gave his real name. anything can happen in these cases and you try to stay with the basics. the other aspect that is interesting is we spoke earlier in t

and here was his answer. >> the punishment should be losing your job if he in fact did authorize fbi agentse media and lied about it. >> bret: and seeing what you have seen you think he did. >> i don't know. here is what i do know, that the fbi and the department of justice were corrupt in my view when it came to handling the email investigation of clinton. >> sandra: so apparently this decision will happen any moment, next couple minutes. next couple hours. but some time before end of day tomorrow is the expectation. >> fascinating statement though from the senator. if you lie to the fbi, you should lose your job. we would go to the jail and into the dungeon. we would never be seen again. and they are like well, you are going to lose your job. this really, have you got to base it on the average person. >> yeah. >> if we did that, would we be arrested? this is what the american people want is law and order and a fair application of the rule of law. >> and there has got to be parody across the board on this. >> sandra: as promise weed have to discuss tems. newly revealed tems originally hidd

responsibility, which is an office within the fbi staffed by fbi agents and executives and they lookedt his behavior. if there is one thing in the red line is fbi is don't lie. you can be forgiven for a lot of things, but if you misrepresent yourself or lie to the fbi, you've got a chance of being prosecuted. more importantly you'll be dismissed. i was a disciplinarian for the fbi for a short period of time and i've had a lot of agents do this. it was a good decision. arthel: when was that? what period of time was that? >> it was about 20 years ago that i ran that program. it wasn't a great job. nobody wants to do it. the way they do it when i was back there many years ago. you need that kind of thing. >> i understand you've got to have everybody follows the rules. here's the question for you. should mccabe's firing have been put on hold until after the doj filed his report in the case? >> know, and that decision needs to be made when the information is available. the reason it wasn't made earlier is because the office of professional responsibility didn't have the information and when

atf and atf forensics laboratory, fbi, every fbi agent is a bomb-trained agent. y single agency. that's the way it is, fbi has lots of voluntary technicians the boston pd. you have a lot of talent here, this is the forensics laboratory. they take bombs apart, they're down in the minutia of every little gear and switch and particle in there. they're examining those. they're giving that back to the jock, the joint operation center in boston where they are trying to exploit those forensic leads. a trip line is like a monofill amou owe mono-millament. it was debt natd on a sidewalk at 8:30. if they can tighten that time line down, likely it was planted right at dark or just in dusk in corpuscular light, that's fading light, that's a couple hours, maybe an hour-and-a-half from 7:00 to 8:30. in fact, the bomber may have been there. they may come out with cameras a block away, two blocks away, some witnesses, there is a lot to be gleaned from that last one. >> we hope they can nail this down. jim cavanaugh, thank you very much, jim. >> a trump campaign linked firm kicked

maria: right. >> what i want to know is did the fbi agents in question who are outliers in terms of the they come up with an insurance policy to help guarantee an outcome of an election? if that's true if they were even thinking about doing that, that scares me as much as anything russia whose ever done. maria: well that is an incredible abuse of power do you think we'll see any accountability here senator? >> if we don't it will be a terrible day for the system. the department of justice cannot investigate itself. you're going to have to have somebody come in with fresh view of this, has nobody to reward, nobody to punish, the inspector general is limited institutional ly as to what he can do but i am really intent on having new eyes look at what happened to the department of justice and the fbi because they can't investigate themselves. maria: so when will we know whether or not we're getting a second special counsel? >> i can't believe its taken this long. maria: yeah. >> look what we know. we know steele lied about the role he played in handling the dossier. we know that the fbi age

we have fbi agent on the ground who are coordinating closely with local law enforcement and looking to find the exact nature of the package sent overnight and this other recent spate of incidents. our hearts and our prayers and thoughts go out to the individuals affect. we want to find the perpetrator of these cowardly acts and won't stop until we do. >> sandra: has there been a connection made to the package found in san antonio to the recent bombings in the austin area? >> i don't want to get ahead of the facts. there'll be a news conference shortly and i'll let officials make announcements but we are monitoring the situation closely. we want to ensure the people of austin and the rest of texas are safe. and we are working with our brothers in law enforcement on the matter. >> sandra: a busy day in washington and capitol hill. the president has now decided to beef up his legal team as the mueller investigation continues. raj, what can you tell us about the timing of the decision by the president? >> this is the president's personal legal team and that is different from the white hous

fbi agents as a major part their job is to testify in court.you have a reputation, if you have been adjudicated a liar by the organization, of what value is your testimony in court and the answer is it's of no value. this is not a fetish. leland: especially if the fbi knows someone is a liar, whether it be about one thing or lots of things, it's hard to go put them on the stand. you talked about mccabe's statement in which he parsed this if i'm guilty of anything. >> he tries to recast this. leland: people who are guilty often do that this is what his statement says in part. this attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not to just slander me personally but to taint the fbi. law enforcement and intelligence professionals more generally. can you read that the other way. this is an attempt to root out liars and political actors who have badges. >> yeah. can you read that the other way. but, two things may be true simultaneously. it may well be a political orchestrated attack on the fbi that's ongoing as we speak. that does not excu

part of this comes from the text messages from the fbi agents who was having affair. there was coordination between the white house and fbi. it should have been more independent than that, this was during the obama administration. >> not just the obama white house but the obama white house, the fbi, d.o.j., harry reed, cia and hillary clinton. if you just take it from the beginning, hillary paid for the fake dossier filled with russian lies. they have you have a hillary donor who sent fbi the tip about papadopoulos. these fbi agents opened up the investigation. then, john brannan the cia director under president obama briefs harry reed about it. at the same time obama chief of staff at the white house, had been talking briefed by the counterintelligence division of the fbi about the trump campaign investigation and from what we believe he was urging it to move forward. the briefing from brannan to reid leaked and wound up in the isikoff article. it was used as a justification for the warrantless spying on carter page. it's funny, carter page never been charged with a c

fbi agents moved quickly to arrest a suspect at this mobile home in everett, washington. 43-year-old thanh cong phan, known from previous mailings described as badgering, court records show he was involuntary committed in 2011 for brief mental health treatment. investigators say letters sent with these latest packages complained about the government controlling minds. the first was discovered monday at the national war college on ft. mcnair. investigators said it contained a jar of black powder. as more of them turned up, they were found to have similar contents, including explosive material but lacking a key component, not capable of functioning as a bomb. since the anthrax letter attempts of 2001, mail addressed to government offices in washington is screened at off-site facilities. large packages are x-rayed, allowing hazardous materials to be intercepted. >> in past events, it's usually somebody trying to send a message or trying to intimidate or coerce somebody on the receiving end. >> he appeared in court late today charged with illegally shipping explosive materials. court doc

andrew mccabe is being treated just like other fbi agents inside the agency have been referred by the inspector general, by the office of professional responsibility to lose his job for potentially breaking the rules and breaking the law. for them to come out in his defense, tells which side they're on. steering panel, stick around. we love to have you talk about other topics but that's it for now. a city in fear, another bombing in austin. this one is more sophisticated. what will it take to crack the case questionably of a live report. a self-driving override turns deadly. what's next f it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better mo

and really unprecedented, don, for a career fbi agent who spent more than 20 years in the bureau to be fired in such a public fashion. the department of justice, attorney general jeff sessions making this decision late this friday night saying it was because andrew mccabe gave unauthorized disclosures of information to the media and misled investigators. this is all revolving around a "wall street journal" report in october of 2016. andrew mccabe says that the reporter in this case wanted to write something that was factually inaccurate, that he was trying to slow roll the clinton foundation investigation. he authorized two agents to speak to the reporter to clear up confusion and give the facts in his view. he told me in an interview, don, he never misled anyone, never misled the inspector general, any investigators. and he believes that all of this is really a pattern of attacks to undermine his credibility and his reputation by the president. and in fact he released a statement tonight, don, andrew mccabe releasing this statement singling out the president saying the oig's focus on

everybody fbi agent knows that. if you're the fbi leadership, office of professional responsibility, you're looking at this situation and saying how can we tell the young folks that are coming in, the new agents, rising up through the organization we'll have zero patients wh patience when we don't hold the person in the number two slot to the same standard? you have to look at what the office of responsibility gives you, what the attorney general has and take the totality of the situation. >> thank you so much for your voice and your expertise. let's analyze all of the above. cnn senior political commentator, republican presidential candidate and senator. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> do you think jeff sessions will fire him by sunday? i know this is a recommendation that comes from within the fbi. the guy has served 22 years for this agency. would that be fair, to fire him? >> well, i just listened to what your previous guest said and i think the zero tolerance factor there and the fact that he is a senior

. >> well, i'm just looking very quickly at the statement from the fbi agents association. among the thing that are discussed, it does say that every fbi agent is provided appropriate procedural protections. we'll see if that extends to andrew mccabe and trying to get his pension here. okay, you two, thank you very much. i know i'll be seeing you again next hour. thank you. let's bring in congressman denny heck, member of the intelligence committee, welcome to you. what do you make of mr. trump's lawyer welcoming mccabe's firing and using it to call for an end to the russian investigation? >> this is clearly about the fact that andrew mccabe can corroborate what james comey did and said leading up to his own firing. frankly it speaks to the continuing all-out assault that this administration has on anybody who wears the striped shirts in this society, whether it's members of the law enforcement community when they disagree with him or, frankly, members of the press like you, alex. it also speaks to the depth of the pettiness and the vindictiveness of this president. truthfu

now, james comey, trump hating fbi agent peter strzok, other top fbi officials, they started writing exoneration, gave her the get out of jail free card before doing their investigative work. then there is, of course, the issue of how the trump-russia probe started. here is the information we currently have. the trump hating fbi agent peter strzok who was a top counter intelligence official signed the paperwork that actually kicked off this entire russia witch-hunt. strzok, his fbi girlfriend, mistress and lisa page, they are as corrupt as they come. they talked about an insurance policy with who we think is the former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. remember that? insurance policy. insurance policy in case of what? donald trump winning the american people deciding they want him as their president? we also have new at this hour hillary clinton has zero shame. she is actually pretending tonight to be outraged. she is faining outrage and accusing president trump of surrendering to the russians. she lashed out earlier today in a tweet writing quote i say this as a former secretary of

two sources tell fox news that disgraced and demoted fbi agent peter strzok was told that a hostile actorreached hillary clinton's server during the 2016 campaign, but then covered it all up for the obama administration. that's the same peter strzok who helped fired fbi director james comey draft a memorandum exonerating hillary clinton of wrongdoing weeks before she was interviewed by the fbi, despite overwhelming evidence and a probe that was far from complete. also tonight here, special counsel robert mueller, mueller's pack of partisan investigators widening their inquiries beyond all reason. they are exploring now the trump campaign's connections to the united arab emirates and possible business dealing. the special counsel has gone 10 months without producing any evidence of collusion while the house and senate untell jones and judiciary committees have done no better. the same is true of the house oversight committee. they all produced exactly nothing. absolutely no evidence of any kind of collusion. yet speaker ryan panama joart leader mcconnell lacked the integrity to insist the

still, as a defense lawyer on this side, i represent people all the time who are interviewed by fbi agentshey don't have a particular sense of humor about my clients that can't remember things and don't tell the truth when they're being interviewed by the fbi. so the fbi necessarily has to hold itself to a high standard. i think that's what's going on here. that's why the recommendation was made. eric: what do you think of the lack of candor was? can you describe that term? is it overlying? is it hiding something? -- is it over lying? is it hiding something? what exactly does that mean? >> well, i think it's similar to a false statement type of charge, the fbi would charge someone else with. i think attorney general sessions memo indicated that, that that kind of thing would -- or that it was -- certain statements even statements under oath as part of the inspector general investigation. i would have liked to have seen would have made me feel better for mr. mccabe would have been if he and his lawyer had come out and said this is ub true. -- this is untrue. i told the truth in that investi

cnn law enforcement contributor steve moore, also a retired fbi special agent. thank you so much for being here. >> any time. >> we appreciate it. first and foremost, your reaction and perhaps if you know the reaction of people within the fbi community to what's happened in the last 24 hours. >> well, i can tell you that in the last week or so, i have spoken to probably a dozen current and former agents about the entire mccabe situation. and there is a crisis of trust right now between the rank and file agents and headquarters. and it's not so much based on political issues. it's based on the fact that headquarters seems to be doing things that traditionally the fbi is not allowed to do. and that's getting involved in politics. whether it's mccabe's involvement or comey speaking publicly or mccabe speaking vicariously through papers. there's some concern about the behavior of seventh floor at fbi headquarters. >> so sessions -- attorney general sessions characterized it as a lack of candor, part of the reason for this firing. what exactly does lack of candor mean

he was the senior fbi agent in the intelligence division of the fbi. knowledgeable of all the intelligence secrets and charged more than any other human being in the fbi with maintaining the national security of the united states. if he looked the other way, when he saw a breach of this nature, i don't know how he could justify it from an ethical point of view, internal d.o.j. point of view and potentially criminal point of view. >> i don't even understand interest, just from the pure -- what you do when your job point of view. it doesn't make any sense that he would just gloss over that. wouldn't have even told us, because puts everyone in a hole, in a horrible spot. >> he's still in the d.o.j., he's subject to interrogation by the inspector general, we don't know what the inspector general asked him and what he answered. we'll see it when the report comes out. kudos to the d.c. could egg loos for finding this. nobody else has. way to go catherine herridge. good to see you, stir. >> great to see you. >> voters head to the polls today in texas. what dr

fbi investigation, you're gone. they used to say if you're going to rip us off, rip us off for $25 million, not $25 because we'll fire you for either. they fired dozens of agents a year for candor violations and so this -- i mean he knew you do not even shade the truth in an fbi investigation internally. >> all right. and mccabe saying that he was not misleading to investigators, but pete every, trpeter, does i fair or personal? >> i think it is definitely a political side to it as well. i know what was said is true about the shortfall of candor, but the political side is the president has never left mccabe alone, he's been hammering him for a long time. and that political sbhfrns on a legal question, an issue oftegr good for the organization and you you saw the president slamming the fbi leadership and this is no got for the united states. so we have to wait for the details. mccabe says once he finished the report, then his testimony, then what happened was it was indicated that he was going to go ahead and corroborate comey's testimony about it, comey's claim that he was -- that corroborated that rd was interfe president trump was interesting. so it looked l

we also know that peter strzok was the fbi agent. versaw the january 2017 white house interview of lieutenant general flynn and here's what we really need more information on, strzok is the former fbi counter intelligence official who signed the paperwork to start the entire russia investigation. and as these new text messages revealed, judge contreras was on the fisa court. and sources have been telling us that judge contreras may have signed off on one of the fisa applications to approve the warrant to spy on carter page, trump associate which means the trump campaign which likely gave the fbi access to trump campaign communications. this is stunning. it is corrupt. it is an abuse of power. and it shows inexcusable biases and conflicts of interest that the department of justice has tried to conceal. now, we need to know all the communications between strzok, page, and contreras, as a matter of fact, we lease all the strzok/page text messages, everything you have got. we need to find out if strzok was involved in putting together the

how could the fbi be so close but missed the warning signs? joining me special agent chad jenkins. you for joining us. >> absolutely. heather: you say the fbi did its job correctly, trying to recruit omar mateen on top of his father being recruited for 11 years. why do you think they took the appropriate action? >> if you look at the investigative techniques the fbi agent did in 2013 where there was an open investigation of omar mateen, he exhausted every investigative technique in his power under the fbi's dialogue, the rules that fbi agents have to stay within. he exhausted all those investigative techniques. they were not gleaning getting more criminal or terrorist information to keep the case open so he had to close it. once the case is closed and he had the information it is smart to go ahead and target omar mateen as a potential source since you have all that information on the individual and always trying to that and recruit sources. what better want to recruit than one we just had of the subject to help us in the counterterrorism fight. heather: you have his father as an inf

tonight fox's reporting that that trump-hating fbi agent peter strzok was told that hillary clinton'srivate server may have been hacked but then he didn't do anything about it. just more proof the fbi did not ever at any point conduct a real investigation, that the fix was in, and that was very good for hillary clinton in the beginning. we know that comey and strzok and others were drafting the exoneration statement months before interviewing hillary clinton in 17 other key witnesses. in that exoneration letter, they changed the language and said it was reasonably likely that clinton's observer was hacked and it was possible the server was accessed by hostile, foreign actors. who? may be russia. think about it for a second. it was previously reported that five foreign actors had hacked clinton's server. we canan guess one of them probably has to be russia. another being china. possibly iran? north korea? all these people that had access to top-secret material. that means american sources and methods were revealed, which means american lives were then put in danger. so strzok put his.

i was talking with a former fbi agent, they are so disgusted what happened on the 7th floor on fbi headquartersthing. you look at this, as soon as the inspector general report comes out people will be going, what is going on there? >> fbi agents in the field offices are telling us they want these guys out. it makes them look bad. brian: what is seth moment town, jamie raskin and luis gutierrez have in common, they're all democratic congressman, and they offered andy mccabe a job. steve: that could blow up in their faces if revealed he did bad stuff. brian: we're about to find that out. >> we're here in new york city and more news over. jillian: vice president mike pence standing with hand over heart over two fallen soldiers. christopher raguso, and captain christopher vanetis first to be transported to families in the u.s. they along with five other servicemen died when their helicopter crashed in iraq last week. >>> a tractor-trailer loses its load causing a 20-car pileup. this is from overnight. incredible pictures of smashed up cars from germantown, maryland, outside of washington, d.c. it i

it's also where fbi agents arrested her last year for charges in connection to the pulse nightclub massacre. now, her mother has never spoken publicly about the charges until today. she tells me exclusively she always believed in her daughter's innocence. we walked up to noor salman's family home moments after the not guilty verdict came down. her mother asked us not to show her face and spoke through the screen door. how are you feeling? >> i feel very good. >> you feel very good. is she coming home now? >> i don't know. i just found out. >> reporter: off camera, her mother invited me into her home. she was overcome with emotion shaking, showing me pictures of her daughter. noor salman acquitted of obstruction of justice and of providing material support to a terrorist organization. nearly two years after her husband killed 49 people. >> i'm sorry about the people they pass away, um, for the family, this is not islam. this is not our -- how it is. my daughter i know -- i believe in god. she not guilty. >> reporter: noor salman has been locked up in florida for the last year. prosecutors ar

i talked to an fbi counterterrorism division agents just now and they said there is an unusual level of variety. if these are all linked, especially if the incendiary device, the nondetonating incendiary device meant to cause a fire as opposed to shrapnel, if that's linked, that is a scale of knowledge we haven't seen before and that will lead us to potentially identify the kind of individual behind it, or individuals. the skill sets they have. that narrows it down. at the end of the day, an unusually high operation tempo. we very rarely see this. outside of insurgencies, very rarely see multiple attacks in just the space of a few weeks. sody everybody's going to be working overtime in austin. you know that, sean. >> sean: thank you, sebastien. now texas attorney general ken paxton is with us. mr. attorney general, thank you for being with us. i have so many friends down in texas, even in the austin area. our prayers go out to you all. this is becoming a very precarious situation for everybody. you've got four confirmed today, an incendiary device tonight and a goodwill shop. doesn't

>> my grandfather was a career fbi agent. i think this country reveres the fbi.'re going to have to make sure that justice and that lady liberty who has that blindfold doesn't take a little peek and say oh, you know, it's clinton so we are going to go easy on her and those around them. the best way to restore the confidence of the american people is to make sure that those even in the highest positions of power are held accountable and that is to go after them and go to grand jury and go before and prosecute these people if they believe that there has been a crime. and there is plenty of evidence that that has absolutely happened. >> sean: john solomon, we are not keeping it out of the discussion. i'm trying to go in chronological order here. forgive me it's an important night with a lot of news. you have now interviewed the fbi's supervisor who warned comey that the warrantless surveillance program was ineffective, also being abused. is that true? >> he said it was clearly able to be abused and that was deeply concerning to him. more importantly, it was invading

we talked with fbi agents earlier this afternoon. ex-fbi agents and they both mentioned that patience would be a big part of this. you want to try to establish negotiations with the person inside. and try to establish a rapport with that person inside. and hope that it all ends peacefully. >> they have had a hard time reaching him. they tried the cell phone. they tried phone numbers inside the facility and no answer there. so just establishing the communication has been challenging. and for folks who are tuning in, i want to remind you what happened is that a man with a rifle went into the pathway home at about 10:30 today. first took seven people and then released four people and kept three hostages. and right now, let's listen in to see if the news conference is about to get underway with the california highway patrol. >> thank you for being here. again, i know it has been a long day. i appreciate your patience. i wish i had more information to share with you. we have a dynamic and active situation up at the veteran's home. as of r