there was one fco. —— difid and fco. there was one sentence fco. -- difid and fcc.e in a 14 page paper, i would there was one sentence in a 14 page paper, iwould not there was one sentence in a 14 page paper, i would not overemphasise that. it does remind people of the uk's past, and it is a past that is given as our history and heritage, but sets us with new challenges and looking at the world as it is, in a world which is recognised britain's role in it, the good bits and the less than good bets, the paper addresses that fairly. to sum it is very important, to others it is a reminder we need to constantly look forward, recognise our past, and recognise the position that we are in now, and the new challenges facing the world through climate change, diverse —— biodiversity loss, problems that were not thought of at the end of the second world war, the paper makes a good stab at trying to assess how these might be considered. it is certainly a very grand office, that of foreign secretary, as anybody who has seen its will testify. tha nk testify. thank you. the search

and it isn't just the mod and the fco and the and whitehall. the entire nation as well. to get over the fact that we've had three decades of relative peace and we've got some very difficult, years ahead. there is a 1937 feel to our world now. we need to wake up for that. and that includes greater investment in defence. >> if there's an i mean, i know what you're saying about defence spending because you've argued that before on this that that before on this show that defence spending have defence spending should have gone the budget. so that gone up in the budget. so that was by jeremy hunt. do was an error by jeremy hunt. do you ? you think? >> no, i heard that. and listen carefully you carefully to what, madeline, you were absolutely were talking about. absolutely agree. move to 3. agree. it's got to move to 3. but i know from and james but i know this from and james will probably agree with this. if you throw 3% at the military now, they will spend it in all sorts of curious ways, which won't necessarily be, aligned to what are coming over w