i'm told what to expect is a pause in enforcement of the fcpa until they can work out new enforcement guidelines for the department of justice relative to american companies that are engaged in alleged bribery of foreign governments overseas. kelly. so a lot coming up here, and we'll see the president here in just a couple of minutes. >> yeah. but to your point, it sounds like the business community, eamon was saying that it was somewhat vague and confusing sometimes to comply or that the costs outweighed the perceived benefits. >> yeah. i mean, the biggest complaint from the business community for years about fcpa has been that it makes it difficult to compete, right, with western governments around the world that don't have an fcpa equivalent. u.s. companies simply can't operate in some of the places where culturally, it's deemed necessary to make certain payments and the like in order to win business, to hire people who are politically well connected, that sort of thing. that's something that u.s. businesses generally have wanted to have lifted, you know, but reformers and good gov

the other is the fcpa foreign corrupt practices act., donald trump, before he became president the first time, had reportedly hated the statute, wanted to get rid of it. secretary of state rex tillerson, former head of exxon, reports. he had to sort of talk donald trump down because donald trump came to him and said, can you get rid of this statute? and he was like, it's a congressional statute. no. and also we want it. he was like, i understand as somebody who used to work for exxon as the head of it, we do not want to have make it so that all of the world, everybody can just bribe. and the person who gets the business is not the best company. it's the person with the highest bribe. pam bondi, in this memo that she has not highlighted, said, we're only going to be looking at the fcpa as it relates to drug cartels. >> why? why would you do that? >> so your boss has criticized the fcpa. he has tried to get rid of it. an asterisk. tillerson to get rid of it. this is de facto accomplishing that, which is that you know what? it's all transa

and we have been in prosecuting the fcpa violations. now, it is the law of the jungle where every corporation is now free to. according to pam bondi, bribe companies and bribe public officials in order to gain business. who does that? i mean, this is supposed to be a rule of law. country republican and democratic administrations have been fighting that. it is now a great time to be a foreign adversary because, as you pointed out, the foreign agents registration act. the kleptocracy initiative, all of that has been disbanded. so if you want to engage in foreign interference with our elections, you're free to do that. the it is really sort of a remarkable, remarkable set of changes. and it's useful too, i think, to think about this not in terms of all of the lawsuits we've seen, which is attacking actions by the trump administration, which are alleged to be illegal. these are actions that are just policy differences, but are sort of horrendous if you believe in the rule of law, and it's really making the american country sort of unsafe, b