>> this is not part of my report for our was too hard on fdr. because some of theth president's we have kravis and sam. [laughter] and -- . >> the election of 1940. it have long been certain 1940 would not be an ordinary year in american history. politicians in both parties have beena maneuvering preparing for the crucial election year. fact of 18 armies and squadrons swinging into action and the decisive defense would have fatal consequences for america. so that would bring an answer to the riddle of the state's -- of the sphinx. wouldd roosevelt's be able to w win a third term? what are the president's secret thoughts on the matter? every shred of evidence every off hand presidential remark comment every list of appointments were scared for possible hands. by 1940 comment the intentions were the national guessing game. st gases jumped to the false assumption he made his decision to run or not it all of his actions stemmed from the decision spell roosevelt was up 12 make a vital position years or months in advance and stick to that decision thi

what is happening with regard to fdr and the new deal and the supreme court involvement? >> kid star's too essentially declared the new deal to be against the law and begins in earnest to strike down new deal programs but the centerpiece of the new deal with the national recovery administration and the nra and a agricultural investment act and the farm program and they weren't knockdown to short six -- succession there is a question and if they could get anything fundamental done in the country with roosevelt because the supreme court stands in the way of everything not just the federal government but this states because meanwhile they are passing laws trying to implement minimum wages and a court begins to strike in earnest these parts of registration with the court seems to have tied uncle sam up into a knot and we were not sure how to get out. >> host: even though nobody is nearly old enough to remember franklin roosevelt i think he is a familiar figure. talk about who was on the supreme court. who were they? >> the old that day shall the score in american history what

and i think fdr was, too. and maybe norman thomas was, too.as right, that he was part of, he was pushing her and she was pushing him. i think it's much more organic, you know, you can appoint a summons a here's the difference. but i do think that politics is messy and makes painful compromises all the time. you know, nothing works according to plan, and everything has its limits. i mean, i think that evan thomas, the conscientious objector, he at one point got into a fight with norman about politics. he said i don't understand these moves are making, don't you understand the state has to respond, the state is going to respond, the president and democracy has a responsibility to act according to the popular majority? you know, your moves are muddleheaded. and norman wrote back and said we are not muddleheaded. we are doing all sorts of things. you know, do i think that norman was an effective socialist? art effective politician? i think fdr was right, he was a damn sight better politician than norman. i think the place where norman in the ameri

and i think fdr was, too. and maybe norman thomas was, too.as right, that she was part of, he was pushing her and she was pushing him. i think it's much more than, you know, you can never point to someone and say there's the difference. but i do think that politics is messy and it makes painful compromises all the time. you know, nothing works according to plan, and everything has its limits. i think evan thomas, at one point got in a fight with norm. don't you understand that the state has to respond, the state is going to respond, the president and democracy over responsibility, you know, act ii popular majority. your moves are modeled by this. and norman wrote back we are not levelheaded. we are doing all sorts of things. you know, do i think that norman was an effective socialist? or ineffective politician? i think he was a damn sight better politician the norm. do i think there was a place for norman in the american political sentiment? yes, actually. i think they should be maybe more of those? i think so. i think that the health of the d

fdr gets credit for solving the depression? >> it's astonishing.he record with his own people pointing out it's been a failure. what more would it require to concede this? >> john: let's move on to -- you made the comment about hoover did nothing. hoover didn't do nothing. hoover increased spending. hoover is the opposite of laissez faire. it's what we call the hoover dam that was completed under fdr and was started under hoover that made the reconstruction finance corporation. >> we have a graph of spending under hoover and before hoover it would increase the years before hoover. hoover comes to power, that is the yellow, the increased spending 50%. >> this idea that he is laissez faire is absurd. >> and you mentioned the hoover dam. that. it was done under him and it's still separated by advocates of big spending the wonderful things government should do. >> it's a project of national significance. we've got no projects on the menu right now and we have to figure out if we are still a country this that can think this big. >> john: i think the adv

here she's accompanying fdr and guess who? sarah. and her oldest son jimmy roosevelt and his wife betsy, on a tour of a battleship pre-world war i. on a more substantial note, here she is addressing the national conference on the problems of negro youth in 1939 with aubrey williams who was head of the national youth administration and mary mccloud bassoon who was the highest ranking african-american woman in the roosevelt administration, an official of the national youth administration. did any of you by any chance participate in programs of the national youth administration? sometimes to talk to people who say, oh, yeah, this is how i got through high school 'cause this was a program to offer work study opportunities to students and let them stay in school during the tail end of the depression. and then the start of world war ii when it then changed into turning people to work in defense industries. we know that eleanor was very instrumental in setting this national youth administration up. and, in fact, fdr himself referred to it a

to the fdr library. this book began as an oral history project. from 2000 to 2005 i was one of five historians who worked for the national park service developing a national historic site called the tuskegee site in tuskegee, alabama where the tuskegee airmen work. the national park service dedicated a significant amount of money to interviewing the surviving tuskegee mn to work those in to programs to find information museum architects needed as they were rehabing structures at the national historic site and create this repository of tuskegee history for when there will not just the tuskegee airmen to talk about what this experience was about. we recorded 826 oral history interviews and those interviews formed the core of this book. it is a narrative history of the experience. i tried to explain who and what were responsible for the remarkable changes african-americans in particular but american society as a whole went through in world war ii period. using the tuskegee airmen as an example. to explain w

. >> host: did fdr lie to get into world 42? >> he tried in the late summer of 1941 there was unable incident involving the uss career hat and involved with a british aircraft running into a german submarine. what roosevelt did is told a series of lies about that incident for the purposes of getting into world war ii because at the time he was desperate to get into the war having great difficulty doing it dealing with isolationist america so told a lie to get us in but it did not work. it took pearl harbor. >> host: went to world leaders get behind closed doors to they like to each other? >> the main reason is there is not a great deal of trust to begin with when the two leaders get behind closed doors. states cannot trust each other very much and reagan hit the nail on the head when he said trust but verify. he said you have to verify they are telling the truth. separate it would be the highly unusual circumstance where one leader is in a position where he or she can bamboozle another leader. you don't see much of that. you see

i think fdr was right, he was a better politician than norman.ink there was a place for norman in the political system? yeah. absolutely. to might think that there should be more of those? i think so. i think that the health of a democracy requires a kind of open exchange of ideas, and the kind of battles that he and norman and his friends during world war face about doing reform from the inside or the outside, try to get a seat at the table, do you -- what is the best way to get your point across, the message across to do justice. we just maybe aren't as noisy about them as people once were. >> that's a question i want to ask about generational responsibility. do you think that you're great-grandfather's generation -- did the media and political landscape give him a bigger voice as a socialist candidate, as a figure almost always of dissent move than we currently are able for whatever reason to give the voices outside theç mainstream? or does the, you know, your generation has created this thing called the internal web, and is that going to op

and fdr's new deal. caused the depression some people think that, he had the programs and lifted us up. >> i don't blame them for thinking that, the propaganda shoved down their throats 24 hours a day. present company excepted. henry morgan thal said in 1939 after he'd seen the unemployment at about 20%, said, well, we've done everything the experts told. >> we have tried spending money. spent more than we've ever spent before and it does not work. >> so it turns out that we still get double digit unemployment during the 30's and numerous years, net capital investment is negative. we've got what's called regime uncertainty because a lot of businessmen wonder with an administration like this, i don't want to risk my capital right now so i'm going to hold back from investing. we've got this, this-- >> are you talking roosevelt or obama now? >> see, there you go. 'cause that's the real parallel here. yet today fdr gets the credit for solving the depression? >> it's astonishing he would get this credit and r

various law professors joined fdr's administration. even more notably, people in fdr's administration went over to law schools after they left and became professors. and it was such a 1943, for the publication of the most widely cited and i believe most influential article ever published about legal education, that being harold boswell's legal education and public policy in the yale law journal. let me set the stage for just a moment. laws will was a very influential new deal official, sometimes described as the founder of -- and a clinical scientist. at the time they wrote this, the law itself had just changed in a tectonic nine-point i'll richter scale way. because the supreme court had given him in the switch in time can save nine had decided that after all the u.s. constitution did not prevent the government from running the economy, it would agree not to strike down most regulatory programs. and so we were clearly launched on a very new era, at least he thought in which the government would be doing much more than it ever did. and

fdr had a state of emergency. our white brother from texas had a state of emergency in regard to black america. he has conscience. >> in the african-american community particularly, do you feel he's not doing enough to help african-americans especially poor? >> i think there's an ambivalence in america. black people for the most part have a deep sense of protection for barack obama. he's visually attacked by right wing and fox news and others all the time. he lives under the threat of death. we all pray for him daily. >> i haven't i haven't heard fox news say quite what you said about him. >> you know what the reason is? i tell the truth. fox news doesn't. >> so the truth -- when you abuse him it's the truth. when they abuse him -- >> i love mascots. i love puppets. people choose to be mascots and puppets. they're still human beings. but when fox news accused him of being a socialist, socialist, and he's very much an extension of the very corporate state that has been squeezing out the juices of our democracy, mak

that we have problems here. >> fdr's mo was often to make an appointment himself without consulting much the person who was in charge of whatever department to appointing someone to. in the case of the state department, it was roosevelt who pointed dodd to be ambassador to germany without consulting the secretary of state. dodd road handwritten letters to roosevelt about the real situation in germany. beyond that, you had 3 senior guys in the state department. it is not so much that they were not paying attention. it is not that they did not accept what dodd was telling or what the world was telling roosevelt. it was as though they felt that germany was kind of an irritant rather than the important center it would become in a year's time. >> germans well known in this country, joseph goebbels. >> he was a coveted party guest at a diplomatic tensions because he had a great sense of humor. he was perceived to have a great sense of humor, a vicious sense of humor. i found that really intriguing, startling, actually. >> did you learn whether they spoke english? >> not really. hitler nev

even more notably people in fdr's administration went over to law schools after they left and became professors. and the stage was set in 1943 for the publication of the most widely cited and i believe most influential article ever published about legal education. that being carol boswell's legal education in public policy. and that me set the stage for just a moment. a very influential new deal official. sometimes described as the father of modern public in a political scientists. the time he and mcdougal, the young professor, wrote this, the law itself had just changed in a tectonic nine. zero richter scale way because the supreme court had given him and decided that after all the u.s. constant -- constitution did not prevent the government from learning that the economy. it would agree to not strike down most regulatory programs. and so we were fairly launched upon a very new era of logical thought. the government doing much more than it ever did. yet here we have the law school's still teaching the same old curriculum. this was the beginning of the articles argument one. in parti

associated with corporate america, a guy associated with corporate buyouts is presenting himself as a new fdr. how could that mitt romney get away with this pose? a lot of it has to deal with obama and the economic avoid he has left. tavis: you talked about how they got away with demonizing john kerry when he served and george bush did not. recordhat case, kerry's was an exemplary. there is just enough wanting in the obama record so far that he gave romney a slight opening for his exaggerations' and characters. tavis: you have a lot of words in the new peace. what is it that obama has not done that has led to the failure of righting the wrongs, specifically about the crash? >> the two biggest things is that nobody who created the circumstances for this crash has been punished. low level con people have, bernie madoff has, the people who made the housing bubble have not. they took their fortunes and left while america was holding the bag. that is a failure in law enforcement. obama pledged to do that. he started a task force within the justice department called operation broken trust. it has n

charlie: i'm not asking you to rate i'm asking who is de serving of mention. >> washington, lincoln, fdr truman. charlie: here's what jn adams said that his generation, his generation should study r and politics so that their grandchildren could pursue fine ts. >> thas exactly what this book's about. this is pursuing the dream that adams had for the future generations. i'm going in and saying what did they do, how have they done. of course one of his descendants is in the book henry adams who may be the best historian. >> charlie: who is it you most want to tell us. >> oliver wendell holmes, sr. holmesas a poet and essayist. a very small man physically, five foot four in a pair of heavy boots. he was a poet, published pt and he was a medical student. he saw no incongruity deving his life to medical sign and writin poetrs and writing essays and finding the monthly atlanta magazines. he was one that caught on to french and the whole way of life ther immiate. keep in mind charlie, they did not speak any frch, none of these people. french wasn't taught yet. modern european languages weren't

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we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,, back to the fdr adminstration >>> afternoon baseball with somedline pitchers. >> great pitching matchup. if you made one mistake you will lose this game. you have to go back to the fdr administration the last time the giants won seven games in a row against the dodgers. well, they were trying to do that today. alfonso garcia received a liver transplant just 48 hours before doctors said he could die. he threw out the first pitch today. new giants jeff keppinger arrived mid game, got dressed and met his teammates in the dugout. tim lincecum was just cruising until the 7th when navarro crushes one into mccovey cove. that was lincecum's only mistake of the game. one mistake, that was it. dodgers 1-0. enough for that man, clayton computer shaw. he has a 1.41 career e.r.a. against san francisco. he had 12 strikeouts. they lost 1-0. they have been shut out in eight of lincecum's 21 starts. on the bright side, new giant keppinger got a standing ovation in his first game with the giants. >> that was nice to be welcomed and i'm glad to be here. >> are you

fdr had a state of emergency. abraham lincoln, state of emergency.our white brother from jim crow, texas, has a state of emergency in regard to black america. he had a conscience. >> let me ask you a question. does the african-american community in america, generally do you think, does it feel particularly let down because he is african-american that you feel he is not doing enough for other african-americans? many of whom are poor? >> i think brother tavis said it well. i think there's an ambivalence in black america. black people for the most part have a deep sense of protection of barack obama. he's viciously attacked by right wing and fox news and others all the time. he lives under the threat of death. we all pray for him daily. >> i haven't heard fox news say quite what you said about him. >> the reason is, i tell the truth. fox news doesn't. >> oh. >> that's the difference, my brother. that's the truth. >> so when you abuse him, it's for truth. when you abuse him -- >> it's not abuse. i love mascots. i love puppets. they are still human beings

we got here through the democratic golden ages and through fdr's new deal. through lb j's great society, which gave medicare, medicaid, public housing, food stamps and now, we have the pelosi congress and president obama adding 4 trillion to our debt. >> i would add the bush administration bears some credit, if i put it that way, for this. they had a prescription drug benefit that they added that they didn't finance, they didn't restrain spending on the domestic accounts when they were increasing spending that they had to do after 9/11. >> that's right. >> paul: so, you end up with both parties contributing to this. though the key figure i think is really interesting is the individual payment. the percentage of outlay that go to individuals. that was 28% in 1965, it's almost 2 of every $3. 66% now, which is an amazing figure. that means that's not spending on defense, that's not spending on roads. james, is that sustainable? >> no, it's not. and or actually the trillion and a half dollar dits we've been running, worse than they look, less sustainable. we've

standard that if you have a headache that knocks you out for an hour or two, you cannot be president, fdr and kennedy, who had addison's disease, and eisenhower, who had a bad heart, would never have been president of the united states. i am not sure that is the position any of us would want to take. i think her answer was good, i think based on the evidence -- is their behavioral evidence of this woman not being able -- >> just be a cautionary. >> well, cautionary is fine -- >> i don't know the capitol hill physicians but i don't think it is fair to imply that somehow this is a less qualified individual. >> i'm not saying that. >> what about rick perry? >> rick . looks more and more like he is going to come into the race. -- rick perry looks more and more like he is going to come into the race. mike huckabee, a conservative finalist in 2008 against john mccain, has taken a shot at him, saying he will be the champion of traditional values and high morals, and then why did he indoors and back to rudy giuliani -- endorse and back rudy giuliani, a pro-gay rights politician? >> i am not sure

we had the new deal, and it does not get any stronger than fdr. were big business interests attacking fdr at the time? you better believe it. they plotted a coup against him. he said i welcome their hatred, but i am coming. he came and did a new deal for this country and the middle- class. we created a middle-class between 1947 and 1977, the income of the bottom fifth group at a higher rate than the top fifth. that seems unimaginable now. look what happened. when you care about the middle- class, and democrats cared about the middle class, they fought for the middle class. fdr did that, and even up to the 1970's, liberals were so strong, they got richard nixon to pass that dpj, to start the epa. can you imagine? you had ralph nader running roughshod in the 1970's. seat belts, osha, the list goes on and on. of all the regulations we did to help real america, why did it change? people say ronald reagan. it was before reagan. supreme court -- two supreme court decisions made all the difference. political speech was a first amendment right. the disast

when fdr invented social security, life expectancy was 62. today, it is 80. it was intended to make sure that those few people who live beyond 65 did not enter destitution. now it means our adults are spending almost 1/3 of their working lives on retirement. when bismarck invented the pension in the '88 is, life expectancy was 46. -- in the 18 eighties, life expectancy was 46. he was a genius, not a philanthropist. what we have now is a system that is unsustainable. you see it in europe. that is why we have to discuss this. until democrats yield on structural changes in entitlements, we are hanging over a cliff. >> does that -- didn't the president agree to some cuts? >> raising retirement to 67. in the republican bill, there are reforms medicare that would save $300 billion. they do not want a payment advisory board which will change the payment system and incentives. >> the president of united states is on television every other day. name one structural change in entitlements he has ever enunciated in public. 1. >> raising the retirement age to 67? >>e has

fdr and the first lady on the beach. president reagan and president hw bush with a napkin in his collar and beverage in hand. >> that looks like a lovely spot. >> reporter: and in the movies, picnics have served as a backdrop to dance to -- for chance to find love. -- love. film named "picnic." the 3 legged race, the pie eating contest, and the song ♪ >> reporter: and the andrews picnic scene in the sound of muse he can amonth most famous and we dealt with ants. remember their point of view? gazing up at our sandwiches in the movie "ants." >> this is utopia. >> reporter: and the clothes have changed over the years, rita and sophia setting the bar for glamour. the rest of us turn to the basics a tree, a blanket, and that basket of food watermelon and often at the end, a simple wish. perhaps put best by dot and betty in madmen. >> we should do this more often. >> we should only do this. >>> moving onto news around nation this morning, the town of gibsonville, north carolina, is set to get on their 4th of july fireworks cel

fdr and the first lady on the beach. president reagan on this finger-licking fourth. president h.w.h with a napkin in his collar. and in our movies, picnics have long served as a backdrop as dance, to find love. it was that three-legged race. the pie-eating contest. and there's often song. julie andrews picnic zmeen "the soununof music." and we all dealt with ants on the fourth. remember their point of view in the movie "ants?" and while our clothes have changed over the years, the rest of us simply turn to the basics. a tree, a blanket. that basket of food, corn on the cob. watermelon. and often, at the end, a simple wish. perhaps put best by don and betty draper in "mad men." >> we should do this more often. >> we should only do this. >> just like the drapers, always wishing for more. that is "world news" for this sunday night. we're always online at abc news.com. "good morning america" first thing in the morning. i'll be in for diane here tomorrow night. i hope you come back, too. happy fourth. good night.

various law professors joined fdr administration. even more notably people in fdr's administration went over to law schools after they left and became professors. and the stage was set in 1943 for the publication of the most widely cited end, i believe, most influential article ever published about leeson education -- legal education. the legal education and public policy. the law journal. it set the stage, for just a moment. a very influential new deal official who had sometimes described as the father of modern and a political science. at the time, mcdougal wrote this. the law itself had just changed in a tectonic nine richter scale way because the supreme court had given him and decided that after all of the u.s. constitution not preventing the government from running the economy, it would agree not to strike down most regulatory programs. and so we were clearly launched upon a very new era in which the government would be doing much more than it ever did. yet here we have law schools still teaching the same old curriculum. this w

even fdr says they shouldn't have collective bargaining rights but the public when you do polls todayevil guy who took away their rights. >> the unions poured $4 million and 5 amendment into tv rights and talked about rights. >> there is a radical move the rights of trusted public employees. >> taking away of union rights is not right. >> anything, human rights, civil rights, collective bargaining rights. this is an extensive entitlement >> like the size of bulletin boards. >> this is what you got in the rules to put up a bulletin board. this is why governments go broke. >> how can you do this? >> i can see it may cripple an employer. i'm being facetious. let's get back to the real subject. >> john: like salary and pension deal? does the state senator know about that. >> building painters and school districts get compensation of $98,000. bus drivers make 67 figure salaries. >> do they really. if you take an overall package it's going rich every than what you see in the private sector because the private sector has had to cut back. >> we've absolutely been cutting back. >> cutting back

even fdr says they shouldn't have collective bargaining rights but the public when you do polls todayil guy who took away their rights. >> the unions poured $4 million and 5 amendment into tv rights and talked about rights. >> there is a radical move the rights of trusted public employees. >> taking away of union rights is not right. >> anything, human rights, civil rights, collective bargaining rights. this is an extensive entitlement >> like the size of bulletin boards. >> this is what you got in the rules to put up a bulletin board. this is why governments go broke. >> how can you do this? >> i can see it may cripple an employer. i'm being facetious. let's get back to the real subject. >> john: like salary and pension deal? does the state senator know about that. >> building painters and school districts get compensation of $98,000. bus drivers make 67 figure salaries. >> do they really. if you take an overall package it's going rich every than what you see in the private sector because the private sector has had to cut back. >> we've absolutely been cutting back. >> cutting back m

fdr and eleanor roosevelt on the beach. president reagan on a finger-licking fourth. president h.w.with a napkin in his collar. summer beverage in hand. and in our movies, picnics have long served as the backdrop to dance, to find love. william holden and kim novak in the film appropriately named "pick anymore." it was that three-legged race, the pie-eating contests. and there's often song. ♪ so, a needle pulling thread >>>>eporter: the picnic scene in "the sound of music" the most famous. remember their point of view? gazing up at our skyscraper-sized thermoses and sandwiches in the movie "ants." while our clothes have changed over the years -- rita haworth and sophia loren setting the b r for picnic glamor -- the rest of us turned to the basics. a tree. a blanket. watermelon. often at the end, a simple wish. perhaps put best by don and betty draper. >> we should do this more often. >> we should only do this. >> reporter: david muir, abc news, new york. >> sophia loren looks good picnicking. >> she does. by the way this is our question of the day on wnnfans. you can go there and ta

jfk, fdr. again, the idea was and is american stories. all of those that i mentioned, all of those authors ask us to be more. none of them says they were you are and don't do anything unless the government solve your problems. that was not their idea. it was really how we figure out together. another example. this is an area that we have a lot of opportunity and i've been involved for over a decade. my father was involved before me. it was an organization for people. i think organizations such as that that are conservation minded and do a lot of work on land publicly for people to use, the conservatives have done a bad rap in terms of being environmentally aware. i love the environment and that created the environment. actually stewards of the earth and take care of the stewardship. we have to figure out how to do it in such a way that it makes sense. because if we just have rules and regulations we can control what the rest of the world does. we have to build and solutions that actually work not just for us that make sense fiscally and f

need, because we have inherited probably the deepest economic hole any president has inherited since fdr, and it's going to take a long time to climb out. we're not satisfied, no mission accomplished banner behind us, nor will there be until we get the type of growth for a sustained period of time, we start seeing jobs created, and unemployment falling the type of rates before we fell into this terrible financial crisis that has led to so many of the troubles we have led ourselves out of. >> gene sperling, assistant of the president for economic policy, appreciate you taking the time tonight. >> thanks for having us. >>> we now turn to jonathan alter, jonathan, what did you make of mr. sperling's argument there? >> you know, i think he makes a prosecute good argument. the problem i have with the administration on jobs is there's not enough creatcreativity. so everything he said is fine as far as it goes, but it doesn't go far enough. what i'm looking for -- and i understand why this has to be after the debt ceiling is dealt with -- so sometime in late summer is new proposals for job grow

fdr had polio and j.f.k. and he was on all kinds of medications. eisenhower had a heart attack during her first term. >> nixon was a wear wolf. a lot of people don't know about that. >> you can tell around 7:00 he would get that shadow. >> it would start with the sweat on the lip. >> i will just finish my list. grant, jefferson and julius ceaser suffered from migraines. >> all of the information was hidden from the public. i know law lot of -- i know a lot of people know it is true. it is important to have the full picture. >> we didn't with barack obama. >> did people feed you that stuff? >> no, i would never tell you. >> he keeps sending him lady gaga articles. >> sean, what do you make of this? >> i think they are being too hard. i don't think you should know this much about somebody's medical history. if this was 34 years ago you wouldn't know about it. if she became president you might never find out about it and try to be a great president. >> you shouldn't know. you want less information. don't clutter my mind with these facts. >> well don't