that fdr never abandoned macarthur. he recognized him as a military genius. and in 1935, macarthur left active duty and got himself a cushy job. he went to the philippines as an adviser of the philippine military services. he became a field marshal in the philippine army. at that point was four times as much as general marshall was being paid to run the entire u.s. army. in 1941 before the war after pearl harbor, the war that looks imminent, fdr calls mcarthur back to active duty and gives him command of all american forces and all philippine forces in the islands. in those early months of the war macarthur is losing the philippines and is being driven back down the peninsula. he could have been left there. in fact dwight eisenhower believes that this theatrical history should be left in the philippines as he is going down to defeat the martyrdom. [laughter] but again roosevelt comes to mcarthur's defense. he hasn't flown to australia and he makes the commander of all allied american forces in the southwest pacific. the

from fdr the nation, hierarchies, and citizenship or promised in the future and the present. first inaugural he declared that the basic thought underlying his policies is not merely nationalistic but the insistence as a first consideration upon the interdependence of various elements and parts in the united states. for roosevelt the entire nation was interconnected bill was not there for static and fixed. it was always in motion, all was developing. therefore required constant attention and adjustment, the kind of attention that only a strong presidency did in a strong central government could give. importantly he understood the nation has already fundamentally united. the various interests that make up the nation were perpetually contesting against one another, but there were not your vocally opposed. some people who visit us from other lands across the sea find it difficult to credit the fact that a nation's wrong from many sources, 130 million strong, stretching 300 miles from east to west and all the great essentials of the civilization, much gasol for not only do speak o

throughout his years fdr kept two copies in his personal library. one for the white house, and the other for his boyhood home. franklin roosevelts education was that of a sheltered, provides child, a private teachers and governesses were imported to instruct him. because regulatory through europe, by the age of 12 he was a veteran of half a dozen atlantic crossings. more less flowing to in both french and german. but for all his travel and learning the importance deficiencies in his education with taken years to fully overcome. the most significant of these was the fact that he was taught almost as the soviet home. he did not actually go to school until he was 14. while academic lessons can be taught anywhere, some of the most important lessons in childhood can only be learned in the rough-and-tumble of school. such lessons include the complex and sometimes painful once involved with learning how to get along with one's peers. sometime humiliating competition in the classroom, rivalry for attention and good grades. cut and thrust of the schoolyard w

relief under fdr was a matter of right. legitimating the needs of the poor also legitimated the demand from a political system and he therefore earned the loyalty of the poor. in addition he legitimated organized labor in ways that have not been previously seen. upon signing the national industrial recovery act for example he said quote its goal is the insurance other reasonable profit to industry and living wages for labor with the elimination of tyrannical methods and practices which have not only harassed honest business would have contributed two fields of labor. note here the importance of capital and labor, the subject of this discipline. he made a distinction between honest business and tyrannical business and we all know what roosevelt did not hesitate at all for businessmen challenging his analogy and welcoming their hatred in the 1936 election. the flipside to that and take this into business was organized labor was able to see him as a champion in disbelief and honest policies were substantially more pro-business

fdr actually did stuff. he had not as much certainly as barack obama did not do as much as franklin d. roosevelt but franklin d. roosevelt, social security, all of the unemployment insurance, all of the basics that we now take for granted, a 40-hour work week with time and a half for overtime, stuff that you probably don't want and don't think is necessary, but it's the bedrock of the middle class, the lower middle class and the working class in this country and people aspiring to be in that class. franklin d. roosevelt's tradition is critically important here. >> gentlemen, i'm glad we managed to swathe our way through almost 100 years of american history here. i would love to continue this with you two but i can't tonight. maybe come back and we'll do it again very soon. it's been a lively debate and it has been a civilized debate. certainly after last night when my main guest, kelsey grammar, didn't even make it to the studio, i would like to thank you both for turning up at all. so thank you both very mu

fdr. >> but yet today you get political points? >> it is good principles. >> the public understands. we're one at of seven states aaa bond rating one of only seven states. it makes a difference going forward looking for predictability, they want to know rebalance budgets. employees want to know. when selling point* is you can take money with you when you leave. it can be passed on to your children. >> rahm emanuel said he will not get people or businesses to move peer. what the government -- governor says of the competitiveness we will see pension liabilities john: thank you governor herbert. steve malanga. i will john: we are back with your question and then the comments co-authors of the book "shadowbosses" elizabeth factor. mallory factor. and teen nine from the illinois policy institute. now from facebook : >> the answer is yes of violation of first amendment rights. we all believe in them. but we do have the right to to speak with only one group has the right to be listened to witches' government employees union. nobody else h

fdr. >> but yet today you get political points?> it is good principles. >> the public understands. we're one at of seven states aaa bond rating one of only seven states. it makes a difference going forward looking for predictability, they want to know rebalance budgets. employees want to know. when selling point* is you can take money with you when you leave. it can be passed on to your children. >> rahm emanuel said he will not get people or businesses to move peer. what the government -- governor says of the competitiveness we will see pension liabilities john: thank you governor herbert. steve malanga. i will john: we are back with your question and then the comments co-authors of the book "shadowbosses" elizabeth factor. mallory factor. and teen nine from the illinois policy institute. now from facebook : >> the answer is yes of violation of first amendment rights. we all believe in them. but we do have the right to to speak with only one group has the right to be listened to witches' government employees union. nobody else has

fdr just got angry as heck all the time. i think obama is much more surreal and careful [inaudible] >> i think that he could go out and he could study some of what roosevelt did. whether these were authentic constitutional decisions whether rendered by ideological conservatives that were interested in conservative results. this was roosevelt's view, and i suspect it was president obama's view, too. speak in a microphone, please. >> [inaudible question] >> who bobby's cases against his deal? >> it will not surprise you ever cases against the present health care, as well. generally, people who are critics of the statute, who may be politically opposed to the administration in power. that certainly was so during the new deal. there were a number of cases brought by those, some of who have been very active in the republican party. particular statutes were struck down. one was a national recovery administration, which was a major statute with the national industrial recovery act. and that was a very blasÉ the agricultural act was

fdr. >> but yet today you get political points?> it is good principles. >> the public understands. we're one at of seven states aaa bond rating one of only seven states. it makes a difference going forward looking for predictability, they want to know rebalance budgets. employees want to know. when selling point* is you can take money with you when you leave. it can be passed on to your children. >> rahm emanuel said he will not get people or businesses to move peer. what the government -- governor says of the competitiveness we will see pension liabilities john: thank you governor herbert. steve malanga. i will sleep train's inventory clearance sale is ending soon. save 10%, 20%, even 35% on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. get 2 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. even get free delivery! sleep train stacks the savings high to keep the prices low. but hurry, the inventory clearance sale is ending soon. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a

they are bringing in their heavy hitter, bill clinton, the first and last democratic president since fdr to be elected to two full terms. >> mr. clinton will put barack obama's name in nomination with his speech tonight. the first time one president has done that for another. maybe that will take the democrats minds off the rain on their parade. this was to be the scene of president obama's acceptance speech tomorrow, the home of the carolina panthers, they were, there were going to be 65,000 people and fireworks, but now the forecast is for thunderstorms and the event is being moved back here to this much smaller arena. >> the president arrived in charlotte this afternoon but his trip from washington was delayed by, what else? the weather. he is expected to make a brief appearance here in the arena tonight. a little bit earlier we saw a picture of the president's wife, the first lady, michelle obama taking in the speeches here, she

fdr. >> but yet today you get political points?it is good principles. >> the public understands. we're one at of seven states aaa bond rating one of only seven states. it makes a difference going forward looking for predictability, they want to know rebalance budgets. employees want to know. when selling point* is you can take money with you when you leave. it can be passed on to your children. >> rahm emanuel said he will not get people or businesses to mov what the government -- governor says of the competitiveness we will see pension liabilities john: thank you governor herbert. steve malanga. steve malanga. i will in america today we're running out of a vital resource we need to compete on the global stage. what we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. by 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university, we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help make sure everyone's ready with the know how we need for a new tomorrow. [ male announcer

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where is fdr?everyone, any of you who know fdr know that when he died in 45, come on, this country was dumbstruck. it was sad and. they had a connection with their leader. men cried in foxholes and on ships. people cried industries. maybe some of you heard arthur gottfried cbs news commentary of the zero march in washington. godfrey is growing, for god's sake. he said fdr stood for the little guy so he could get a fair shake your people cried because they knew that he stood for the g.i. bill. and social security. effort government playing an active role in helping people get by and have human rights. but the greatest generation celebration wasn't about government playing a role in your life. it was the individuals who had what it took to join the service, fight the good fight, defeat evil in the world and build a great country. there's truth in some of that, but what is a faced here and marginalized is that mid century progressive thought, which were roosevelt said the center of the political exper

we need bold experimentation fdr used. obama aids tell me they are going to do more to sketch out the path forward in a second term. not a policy list. it's not a state of the union speech. he'll try to give americans the sense of what they will get if they are patient. where he's going to take the country on policy. we'll see if this last night of the democratic convention can be as successful as the first two. i talked to a republican congressman today. they said their convention is better than ours. the question is whether it matters. >> john, let me ask you. does he refer directly to fdr in the speech and say we are going to have experimentation? >> yes. he does. he also says that people in the democratic party need to recognize that ideas they may have worked in the past don't work. trying to strike a little bit of the new democrat theme that bill clinton used where he challenged the party and said party orthodoxy may not be the right thing. he's done it on free trade but it was mostly rhetorical. he hasn't gotten a l

fdr. >> but yet today you get political points?good principles. >> the public understands. we're one at of seven states aaa bond rating one of only seven states. it makes a difference going forward looking for predictability, they want to know rebalance budgets. employees want to know. when selling point* is you can take money with you when you leave. it can be passed on to your children. >> rahm emanuel said he will not get people or businesses to move peer. what the government -- governor says of the competitiveness we will see pension liabilities john: thank you governor herbert. steve malanga. i will so anyway, i've been to a lot of places. you know, i've helped a lot of people save a lot of money. but today...( sfx: loud noise of large metal object hitting the ground) things have been a little strange. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep. meep meep? (sfx: loud thud sound) what a strange place. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. john: we are back with your question

that was fdr. and fdr -- it's hard to imagine a president who came from more privilege.fdr was concerned with was making sure he understood that problem solving went beyond his own personal narrative. that's the danger we should see from the rnc convention last week. they were trying to sell the american people on the story of the romney family. which is a nice story. he loves his wife. he took her to a dance when they were young. they have lovely kids. that's nice. but the point is most of america does not live in the circumstances that the romneys live in. so the question wasn't their family but other people's families. >> i think your point on fdr is correct. and i think jfk also came from privilege and money and showed sensitivity. but i think what we saw last week and the campaign, we've not seen romney demonstrate that he understands that. >> that's right. >> and one of the things i kept stressing last week is they even define success as having money or being entrepreneurial. not on having things like a wholesome family or purpose in life or doing things that are n

i'm having a hard time picturing bill murray as fdr. >> i am, too, but i feel he can pull it off. >> it's not an obvious casting. >> you wouldn't expect that, no. if someone said cast fdr, go, i'm not sure who i'd pick. >> i don't think his name would be in the top ten. >> maybe can he fix social security after the role, with what to do. >> we need lots to help through that. >>> this comes to us from wthr in indianapolis, indiana, there was a one-man tribute to the victims of september 11th. every year since 9/11 jimmy has stood along a highway overpass waiving a giant american flag. he takes a day off from work to keep the solitary tribute going. he's proud of the fact the flag can be seen up to a mile away calling it a reminder of our greatness. he describes himself simply as a humble messenger. >>> i'm mara schiavocampo and this is "early today," just your first stop today on your nbc station. >>> well, divers in the philippines have taken to the sea for a new kind of pilgrimage. about 40 people made the plunge to visit stone icons of the virgin mary and infant jesus. the statues

. >> even fdr didn't think public sector unions made any sense. >> collective bar gaining is different for public workers because their boss is really on their side. >> lies extensively on the roots of america's economic problems. >> they don't want to pay the union mihms too much because it comes out of their own pockets at ford, but that is not true of the government. >> strikes by public employees would be quote the unthinkable and intolerable. but it was within a couple of decades that democratic heirs decided the political upside of public sector unions was worth the risk. the euro caucuse eureka momentd right here in new york city. municipal workers granted the right to bargain collectively. three years later those public unions organize today's reelect him. wagner's unexpectedly strong showing caught the attention of another democrat worried about reelection. president john f. kennedy. >> he sees how this carried wagner to victory and issues an executive order allowing for the unionization of federal employees. state and local governments picked this up as a cue and you have the

fdr came in.is first term he had the new deal and try to do a lot of things, but the economy was still stagnant. he had to say, need more time. you heard last night, bill clinton saying that up barack obama. so if i were the president would be looking at the 1936 fdr. for mitt romney at think it was an opportunity with his wife to start helping explain who he is. he has never had the kids -- the autobiography. he has been around politics for a while, but there was some thought that people did not know his personality. that is what the convention really serve to do, introduce some. gerri: ronald reagan was a presence at the republican convention even though he wasn't there. is bill clinton starting to be that senior status politician who has the kind of gravitas of ron reagan for the democrats to back. >> that is an interesting question because, you know, with a group of people called reagan democrats, and they really are these white middle-class male voters that ronald reagan attracted to the repu

one, comparing himself to fdr. quite smart. fdr, long, painful road to recovery was the message. and quoting lincoln. i've been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction i had no place else to go. two pretty good presidents to compare yourself to. >> yeah, it is. and the lincoln quote shows a sense of humility about the office, which is what you need to do when you're president of the united states. but if there were a word cloud about this speech, the word choice would have been up there a million times. what the president needed to do, and they're hammering it. this is not delicate. they want this election to be a choice between two visions for the country. by the way, i'm the more experienced guy in foreign policy. a lot of osama bin laden tonight. >> there were two great quotes. one was john kerry. ask bin laden if he's better off than four years ago. and joe biden, the familiar trump sky, bin laden dead, general motors alive. the auto industry, they're hammering this now, john. they're going after that crowd so they can hit michigan, ohio, the workers, the

this is fdr. >> and a great conservative. >> seems conservative today.al points for having done this now? >> we get pal cal points because it's good principles. >> the public understands it? >> we are one of only 7 states we got a rating in new york last friday triple a bond reading. one of only 7 states. can when we improve businesses being another fared they can't to know mer bouncing our budget employees want to know if something is real. you can take pun with you, you can ever leave. in chicago ram em annual said you won't get people and i says to move here. they are baying in this. we are going to see pension liability wills. >>> thank you. coming up the goud audience worked how they dot that the 8 hour day. lo want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you

this is fdr. >> and a great conservative. >> seems conservative today.al points for having done this now? >> we get pal cal points because it's good principles. >> the public understands it? >> we are one of only 7 states we got a rating in new york last friday triple a bond reading. one of only 7 states. can when we improve businesses being another fared they can't to know mer bouncing our budget employees want to know if something is real. you can take pun with you, you can ever leave. in chicago ram em annual said you won't get people and i says to move here. they are baying in this. we are going to see pension liability wills. >>> thank you. coming up the goud audience worked how they dot that the 8 hour day. lo want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you

. >> even fdr didn't think public sector unions made any sense. >> collective bar gaining is different for public workers because their boss is really on their side. >> lies extensively on the roots of america's economic problems. >> they don't want to pay the union mihms too much because it comes out of their own pockets at ford, but that is not true of the government. >> strikes by public employees would be quote the unthinkable and intolerable. but it was within a couple of decades that democratic heirs decided the political upside of public sector unions was worth the risk. the euro caucuse eureka momentd right here in new york city. municipal workers granted the right to bargain collectively. three years later those unions organize today's reelect him. wagner's unexpectedly strong showing caught the attention of another democrat worried about reelection. president john f. kennedy. >> he sees how this carried wagner to victory and issues an executive order allowing for the unionization of federal employees. state and local governments picked this up as a cue and you have the rapid

the grandson of the great fdr, himself. james, good to have you back. your grandfatherrism did say leading up to you this is like the 1936 convention that renominated him. the american people re-elected him in the big chance we took on bigger, more involved, you would argue helpful government was being widely criticized by republicans. and the recovery wasn't quite there yet. >> neil your're definitely worth it. >> neil: i appreciate it. for what you had to go through, you don't want to know. wall-to-wall people. >> secondly, i want to say last night, first elizabeth warren and bill clinton summed up where we have come from over the last years with the stock market around 8,000, now up around 13,000. jobs, we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month back then. now we have had 24 months overmanning. very similar to 1936. when things were starting to move in the right direction, but we weren't there yet we're not there yet right now. >> neil: you say you heard elizabeth warren. do you believe the corporations are people? >> cooperations are of co

same question for fdr.fdr question, what would you ask them what you think of the answer would eat? >> i think fdr's point was his relationship and that was brutally inexcusable and so i have to ask him about his relationship with de gaulle and whatever. but eisenhower, you know, i really think i have to take a pass on not. i'll tell you my manure story. it was a bit roly-poly in 1839 and 1940. certainly a mobile in the field, always had the american fielding. and a reporter asked one day, how can you possibly leave the american? are absolutely mobile out there. he said is simple if you don't touch the ball come you can't make an error. [laughter] >> i voted for stevenson. [laughter] into my surprise, i found myself at a cabinet meeting with eisenhower and he was a wonderful person. he was a wonderful person. he was interested in that time at the moment in the issue that can't. i was presenting a live projection that was built for rockefellers presentation because rockefeller had left him. so i went there a

same question for fdr.could ask fdr one question, what would you ask him, and what do you think his answer would be? >> his weak point was the relationship with the gull which was inexcusable. i'd have to ask about the relationship with the gull and whatever. with eisenhower, gosh. you know, i really think i have to take a pass on that. i'll tell you a story. many of you will not remember, but a rollly poly first baseman for the washington senators in 1939 and 1940. immobile in the field. always led the american league in fielding. a reporter asked him, how can you lead the american league in fielding, you're immobile out there. he said it's simple. if you can't touch the ball, you can't make an error. [laughter] i think i'll pass on that. [laughter] >> i voted for stevenson. [laughter] >> so did i. >> to my surprise, i found myself at a cabinet meeting with eisenhower, and he was a wonderful person. he was a wonderful person. he was interested in the time, in the moment, and he got concentrated on the mome

after all, fdr was selling the new deal. what has barack obama been selling?help get us out of the recession. he doesn't quite that the historic magnitude of the era of fdr. >> we were looking, of course, at the speech in 2004, 2008. the stakes are different, as you pointed out. these are not the same set of circumstances as far as time and where we are as a country. advisers have said the president is not going to go down a laundry list of his accomplishment ps. this will be a shorter speech than many we've seen in the past. do you believe that's a wise strategy at this point? >> i think short is always good, although bill clinton's the exception to the rule. he was babe ruth last night. he went long and scored. but i think in denver in 2008, it was yes, we can, which is a cesar chavez grassroots thing. charlotte's a very small, tight quarters. he's now not the affairs. he's the old hand. he's getting us out of iraq, afghanistan, killed osama bin laden. i would go very commander in chief. mitt romney did not evoke the troops properly, afghanistan or iraq. in

fdr warned about this stuff, so next get the specifics. neither romney or ryan have come up with a specific reduction. not one. they don't want to tell you anything. they may get rid of charitable, the home mortgage deduction, they may get rid of state and local tax reduction. look out, nobody is safe. okay, now we're 57 days from the 2012 election. so what's ahead for hillary clinton in 2016? we're going to get to that sugar plum. the question we all have, where is it going for the secretary of state? that's one of the great political questions of our time. anyway, let's finish tonight with what do you do when nobody likes you? what do you do ft. your mitt romney. this is "hardball," the place for politics. r... and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. >>> some new poll numbers to bring you. let's take the "hardball"

. >> let's not forget the president made a reference to fdr which may be appropriate because if he ise-elected, he will be the first president since fdr to be re-elected with an unemployment rate greater than 7.2%. reagan had it at 7.2%. all right. thank you. well, the president has now spoken. did he hit the right notes on the economy? did he hit any notes on the economy? let's bring back in rick santelli and jina sanchez. jina, before we get to that, right, which larry's been talking about all night, i just reread the speech. i don't see anything in here about job creation -- >> or growth. >> well, it makes me nervous about tomorrow's jobs numbers. >> well, i don't think there are too many people who are nervous about tomorrow's job number. i would say that he was certainly light on specifics, but i would agree with the previous comment that this really wasn't the venue for that nor do i think it was the purpose of the speech. i think that what he was trying to do was to reach out and to hit certain -- he actually did hit quite a bit of long-term growth concepts like education, whic

he grew up under fdr, that was his god. >> i thought he would be on the side of the anti-war protesters. he had real doubts about vietnam. he was so outraged about how the anti-war protesters had condu conducted themselves and how they had no respect for law and order. he was just in a rage. my wife remembers that my father and i had the greatest argument that she could ever remember. it was very difficult and i woke up the next day and thought, this is not good news for the democratic party if they've lost my dad, they're not going to be able to pull this off in the fall. >> it's interesting you talk about that. because this is still a big problem and maybe, difficult to quantify it the white working-class man today for president obama. >> they still are. they're still out there for him. it's hard to know exactly why in some cases. i think that there's no question, to some degree that race plays a part in all of that. we're still a country that's still sorting our way through a lot of racial issues. but i also think that what a lot of them believe is that you know, we can get these thi

fdr's new deal solved the great depression. most people think that. we had a depression, spent money, all the programs lifted us up. >> well, i don't blame them for thinking them. it's the propaganda shoved down their throats 24 hours a day. the answer is to look to the people. look at henry morgan, his treasury secretary, said in 1939 after he saw the unemployment statistics showing unemployment at 20% said, well, we've done everything that the experts told us to do. stossel: we are spending more than we have ever spent before, and it does not work. >> and so it turns out that we still get double digit unemployment in the 30s. we have numerous years where net capital investment is negative. we've got what's called regime uncertainty because businessmen wonder with an administration like this, i.coop want to risk any capital right now. i'm going to hold back from investing. we've got this -- stossel: roosevelt or obama now? >> that's the parallel here. roosevelt gets the credit for solving the great depression? it's astoppishing. the record with his p

here's a guy himself, that's actually a light bounce off of fdr roosevelt. this was his chakra. this was march 4th, 1933. he made the statement and he made it, i didn't understand a long time. the point i was making, people were terrified. because it seemed like the economy had no bottom and the banks were going down and there was no federal deposit dollars. so imagine a time when we actually had a president who told us we should be courageous rather than trafficked in fear. to his own advantage. there's been a long war on the new deal. it was when roosevelt got started. almost immediately, the more than great realized the lengths he was willing to go. at the beginning, roosevelt didn't understand how far he was going to go. the dupont family and the ones that set up the american liberty league. that was successful because they have unlimited amounts of money. there were so popular, they were not able to stop it. they began to finance right-wing think tanks. they have been successful to the university of chicago economics department and notable fraud such as milton freed man. th

fdr in a thong, he's a scamp. very, very exciting.day the big seattle sexy liberal. also a big name on celebrity panel. >> bill gates? >> stephanie: stop speculating. it is a surprise. you want to know the extra excitement, west burrow baptist church is protesting us. won't that be fun. >> god hates that church. >> stephanie: yes, god hates the sexy liberal comedy tour. so we have to hire extra security. and i'm going to bring cream rinse. what was her name? i'm a helper. i'll bring her ovation cell therapy. she doesn't even have to go to ovation.com and type stephanie in the box. [ bell chimes ] >> stephanie: that's all i'm saying. almost sold out. guess who is going to be there? julie and ellie. birthday party. ellie is coming up. steph just got confirmation long-time friend of the show ellie has booked a flight to come up to the seattle sexy liberal this saturday. would it be possible to let the paramount will call put her name on the ticket that way if i am hit by a flying fish at pike place on the way she can go on without me. th

got fdr excited, we join the war and we won the award and defeated one of the greatest tyrants the world will ever know, one of the most tremendous tyrants the world will ever know who killed 6 million of my relatives and that was adolf hitler because winston churchill was excitable, had high-energy, believed it himself despite failure and failure and overcame them learn lessons from them and that is what everyone's got to do. that's a notch burner become successful. you fail, learn, get back up and fight again. don't ask for bailouts and that is one is wrong with american economy. you can't award people. you don't reward the failing companies on wall street. i always tell people when you are mad at sco that makes $20 million a year, 50 million a year, you have no right to be mad. you have a right to demand that government employees to get pensions for not working for the rest of their lives. that comes from us the taxpayer. the day comes we bail out the company and keep paying the wall street say $50 million. you've broken every principle of capitalism. that's the only overall be occupi