the fdr had a well, you tell him. i'd rather i'd rather tell you the greatest secret i learned in this book, which is that eleanor roosevelt never needed secret service protection because she always had a gun in her purse. so i know that's a little bit surprising, but i always thought of eleanor as being this kindly old grandmother. and instead she was like a ninja. i mean, she was just unbelievable. so her son ran for governor and didn't get it. she found out that there was one state senator in charge named carmine desafio. she learned she started a clean up albany campaign and drove and disappeared out of politics. i mean, she was just amazing, but but there was a so in the middle of a war tour, fdr went on a big tour of all the war planes in the united states while the republicans were trying to run someone for president. he was out showing all these great things he'd accomplished in the eyes of democracy. and it was supposed to be a big secret because someone could bomb the train or something, but it couldn't be t

where fdr would push his agenda to get support. are you familiar with that or other mediums of pushing out ideas to the public? that's one part. the second part is the moderator asked about idealized use of the president and you said it was mostly democrats. well, lincoln especially when it comes about slavery, and you feel that has been idolized idealized? and the president that squashed reconstruction, do you think that is part of idealization? a lot of folks don't understand reconstruction in slavery and things like that. >> i assume you mean andrew johnson in terms of reconstruction. it was pretty reprehensible. lincoln has been idealized in some films these days but film comes about 50 years or four years after his death. i was talking more about modern presidents without there being a hollywood in their lifetimes. the standard thing is an interesting thing because stamps were widely used in roseville was a stamp collector and you can get ideas out of the culture. in terms of a stamp, never heard of that happening today. >> we

book. >> i think fdr was an exceptional president. i just wanted to ask if there any others who may impact that were following the stock market crash. fdr was over the wpa which was the works of project. itt employed a lot of musician, artists,to and things you don't hear about today. are there any other presidents who have come close to that platform he presented back in the 1930s? >> i believell is one of the justice department. he did have a big impact on the artistic life of this nation. i also think about kennedy in the public dinner that i mentioned where he raised awareness of a possible music. the president can have an impact on higher forms of culture. some of the main goal but it does happen. corks are so many other avenues. on a working artist in pinions to get a perspective. >> the library of congress our partner for this. >> the article in the wall street journal and he writes about our current president or previous present can imagine either of these people reading a serious book going to classical music performance i sa

in her bedroom with fdr in the wall and so this was 2014. i'm still thinking about it, though. one of my students said my my dad gave me a portrait of obama for my apartment. and, you know, i wouldn't even necessarily thought to do that myself, but i'm now that he gave it to me, i'm going to put it in my apartment. and of course, obama was like the first president in a long time where people did that. you know, they they put his portrait in their home. so i started thinking about it, thinking about jfk, which is mostly maybe like a posthumous thing. and i started thinking about it a little bit in relation to media too, like fdr and radio and jfk and tv. are there other is that and i, i know this is a 19 century phenomenon to, but thinking of photography in particular and what does that mean is it a kind of civic religion is it i know it happens in other places, other nations and other kinds of governments. but for us in the u.s. like how i'm just thinking about how this connects to everything we've been talking about. yes. the two interesting stories in this regard in the 1860,

there was one letter in fdr's library. someone wrote saying, roosevelt gives greeting for these different holidays why can we not have greetings for ramadan? there was no reply to that. the military, it was quite a nn remarkable, the embrace of the tri-faith and commissioning all the catholic chaplains. the 1920s, they are marching down pennsylvania avenue. it was against using catholics and your have this world war ii army with ed chaplin who is a roman catholic monsignor. and all of the rabbi increase. the future is finding chaplains from different faith. the army has been good from expanding which happens with islam and represent the islamic faith. we have buddhist chaplains i don't know if there is a hindu chaplain. also, the range of grave markers -- grave markers now. one of the things i would love to have back and the reason why they have it, in world war ii there was a quota system. religious denominations got a quota of chaplains based on their share of the population. that has changed. the chaplaincy is not quite

the fdr had a well, you tell him. i'd rather i'd rather tell you the greatest secret i learned in this book, which is that eleanor roosevelt never needed secret service protection because she always had a gun in her purse. so i know that's a little bit surprising, but i always thought of eleanor as being this kindly old grandmother. and instead she was like a ninja. i mean, she was just unbelievable. so her son ran for governor and didn't get it. she found out that there was one state senator in charge named carmine desafio. she learned she started a clean up albany campaign and drove and disappeared out of politics. i mean, she was just amazing, but but there was a so in the middle of a war tour, fdr went on a big tour of all the war planes in the united states while the republicans were trying to run someone for president. he was out showing all these great things he'd accomplished in the eyes of democracy. and it was supposed to be a big secret because someone could bomb the train or something, but it couldn't be t

kind of fdr piece breaks down a bit. and, you know, maybe we could start with the 4/42 regimental combat team and the search for a buddhist cleric and you know what the solution. yeah, they are the army to its credit. and i'm indebted to a fellow scholar might run that stall. i mean it was interesting she did larger book on the chaplaincy in the 20th century so she saved me a lot of research on this topic. but and army did try she argues halfheartedly to get a buddhist chaplain. i will say to the army's credit, they now they could not find a suitable candidate that would qualify because you were you had to be of certain age. you had to have a certain physical, you know, physical fitness to to to to to qualify. you also had to have a college degree and theological education. so this qualified a lot where i would say the army was very good was it did have several nisei chaplains who are protestant ministers and the army really does try to reflect religious pluralism. the other what i found remarkable about the army's is th

then, they were like the internet where fdr would push the agenda to get support. and are you familiar with that or other mediums of pushing out ideas to the public? and that is one part and that you said it was mostly democrats. while lincoln today, especially when it comes to slavery and his thoughts about slavery, do you feel that has been idealized? and do you think that some of the presidents, especially some of the republicans, like jackson and others that squash reconstruction. do you think that it is just something that is a part of idealization and which is a reason why a lot of folks do not understand the slavery and things like that? thank you. >> there is a lot to unpack there. i'm assuming you mean andrew johnson? yeah, pretty reprehensible and not what he would have done. lincoln has been idealized in some days and that comes about 50 years, 40 years after his death. i was talking about how they were conveyed by hollywood in their lifetimes. the stamp thing is an interesting point because the stamps were much more widely a part of the popular thing an

so the corporatists during fdr's presidency mimicked what fdr wonders them to do the corporatists today do w the same thing with the democrat party. we are not the party of big business. to a business does not stand by those with limited constitutional government. they are in washington at the public trough making all these demands and everything so forth and so on. we are the free market conservative. we are the ones who want competition. we areur the ones it talked abot individual liberty and all the rest of it. you can seat during the pandemic but the blue stated right here it would after small business. they crush them for they went out their religious institutions, they crush them but anyone who stepped out of line if you did not wear a mask when you'rebe told to wear a mak you could be arrested, even on the beach. that is what you saw. that's what is going on. the only real corporation or the big warehouse stores they made a ton of money. the abc stores. try to get liquor binoculars church brickwork that is correct. you can seat during that period of time the corporate's on vaccin

so if you were you know, it was a it was fdr policy as the other panelists kind of. and if you study wallace carefully was really trying his best. no one really could completely follow fdr because he was a master of deception to his own family, his own wife, his own you know, no, no one could really know what he would do next, even if he promised you will i will do this. but. but wallace did his best to follow. he would his foreign policy little that that roosevelt wrote before wallace was sent to china and siberia for example. and so he really tried to follow and he was a genuine adherent to his policy of cooperation. soviet union. but what would that have meant? i think with things like the marshall plan, yeah, that would've mad a huge difference. i think he would have pushed harder for he would seen a necessity for some kind of economic aid to the europe right. who wouldn't? but he have done it in a way which might have been more considerate of the soviet union's considering asians. but what the atomic bomb i mean actually. wallace was attempting to think that he

that's what fdr was up against. some of that was just we don't want to fight another war, but some of that was the people who you want us to fight against we think have the better idea. >> how did they go about cultivating -- we talk about dennis for a little bit, who is a worthwhile spending a little time on. >> oh, there's such a good twist when it comes to him. >> but talk about him a little bit. >> lawrence dennis had been a state department official. he had been -- he had gone to harvard. he was a very erudite, very articulate guy. and he was -- he had kind of a substack contrariness to him. you couldn't compliment him without him insulting you for complimenting him, but he also in his gruffness and his contrariness made everyone fall in love with him. he was seen, men, women, old, young, it didn't matter. everyone had a crush on lawrence dennis and he slept his way through the 1930s in a way that he didn't understand why his wife minded. so you know, a lot of interesting stuff about him. but he was writing spe

, and fdr believe that if anyone could beat him it would be huey, in 1935, fdr was at the summer whitemmoned father coughlin to come talk to him about the fact that coughlin was clearly supporting he along. he believes it coughlin and long and long together would bring america to a fascist dictatorship in two years. ease of it was an unstoppable force. he was there to try to talk loughlin out of it and as coughlin was driving to fdr's house that day for that top hualong was assassinated. >> spoiler alert. >> [laughter] >> that was 1935 and that's the way things went. what huey long's power-wise, i think what was magic about him, was his unbridled appetite for power. >> right. >> the thing that he did was, yes, he paved road to the grave away free school textbooks and he was a spellbinding orator and he wore silk outfits and all sorts of things you could say about him. but really what he was a maestro of was power, that he never met the source of authority that he could not accrue to himself, and that was the saying that you need to be able to do to be able to lead a society in that dir

so the corporatists during fdr's presidency mimic what fdr wanted them to do. the corporatists to to do the same thing with the democratic party. so were not theot party of big business. big business does a stab at those of us who believe in limited constitutional government. therein in washington at the public trough making all these demands and everything. we are the free-market conservatives. we are the ones who want competition. we are the ones that talked about individual liberty and entrepreneurship and all the rest of it. you can see during the pandemic what these blue states, your state did right here. they went after small business. they crushed them. they went after religious institutions. they crusheded them. anybody who stepped out of line if he did wear a mask when you told wear a mask you could be arrested, even on the beach. that's what you saw. that's what's going on, and the only real corporation some of the made a fortune like the big warehouse stores, and made a ton of money. the abc stores when they were shut down, gunshots, speeding you cou

throughout life fdr made blatantly bigoted private remarks about --. although he is not alone among presidents in this regard. roosevelt as professor madoff, quote, allowed is prejudice to influence his policies regarding america's response to the persecution of european jewry. among other things, roosevelt blamed polish -- for antisemitism. poland spoke of the understa about complaints of the germans, about the prominence of --, some professions. roosevelt boasted to a colleague that we know we have no jewish in our veins. help bring about a quota. jewish students admitted to harvard and recommended that -- be, quote, spread out thin around the world so they would not dominate any particular economy or culture. this was the great franklin roosevelt. and by the way, he didn't lift a finger. blacks either. in 1940, a bill hit his desk, a federal law outlawing lynching. he sign it because he was running for an impression and a third term and he didn't want to lose the south. and he appointed a former klansman to the to the supreme, his first appointee to

fdr was in a wheelchair and chaialways tried to cover that . biden, the bubble wrap campaign is the same thing. the guy has brunch lids. if it's not a 40 weekend, it's a three day weekend. he never talks to us through the american people feel deceived and want the to feel connected o the present. anwant to feel like we know the president, we understand him ank nohe's on our face. this guy doesn't ever appear in public and when he does he won't take questions fac.pu if he does, he goes, i'm going to get in trouble. won makes us feel like he's not reallyes in charge. the american people ar e realizing and especially the democrats that the only reason joe won in the first place was because of covid and the fbi.of this election, c there will note covid, and the fbi, well elon musk bought twitter scoo there's not the infrastructure there to help joe biden win. the focus is on joe biden'e ins performance and everyone is focused on his age, his gait his speech, his performance is just not inspiring confidence everybody is going to try to hide him. i s

larry: fdr never lifted a finger, fdr never lifted a finger about the holocaust or -- we fought the nazisnd waited and waited. never lifted a finger on the holocaust. >> the nazis knew, feared, red cross, pope, fdr saying this is wrong. never did it, never did it. steve you will come back later to talk about the poor state of global economy with john carney. thank you very much for that. >> thank you. larry: you wrote a hell of a piece. in "forbes" magazine. eerie echoes preceding world war i. only as steve forbes can do. coming up right now, oil prices are up ahead of the saudi opec meeting tomorrow. so what are they going to do? what impact will it have on the israeli war? we'll talk to oil state north dakota senator, our great friend, mr. kevin cramer. plus, whoa!, we've got monica crowley, we've got mark simone. they will walk towards here. if they would follow stage directions. they will talk about the 2024 election, all these endorsements, all these endorsements for governor desantis and nikki haley but i don't think they matter. i think there is one guy that is way out in front but

you know, marty, i think one of those norms is that, you know, at since, you know, the modern era, fdr, the 1920s, the idea that, you know, there's a white house press corps, that there's a spokespeople for the president, that job, more or less is to answer questions. journalists ostensibly representing readers, viewers and listeners. we're in a very different time. you have some political candidates where take the reporters query and not not respond to it, but then immediately posted on twitter to denounce the reporter and news organization. you've credentialing of people from really non-mainstream news sources that are really hyper partizan in nature. some people call those websites, you know, pink slime, you know, given our nation's tradition of really know freedom of the press. is anything that can be done to reduce to to kind of combat these norms violations? well, i think it's can be hard. i mean, i think if there were to be another trump administration, i think we'd see more attacks than we saw in the past. obviously, trump used a lot of language that was intended to not only di

oh, we've done some with fdr. he's fascinating. some with ronald reagan, who were just recorded a few of his international conversations in the situation room or through the situation room. so those are the big three. kennedy, johnson and nixon, i guess all presidents after nixon realized it's not such a good idea to have a record of what you're doing back there. yes, nixon ruined it for the presidents, the historians or the presidents afterwards because he lost his job, because his tapes captured too much history that otherwise would have vanished. yeah, it's. it's not a good thing for for society, really. not just historians like yourself, for all of us. we want to have an era food irrefutable record of what presidents have decided and have said behind closed doors. it's great, right? it opens a window into what kennedy was thinking. lbj, nixon we don't i don't even know what we will be dealing with in the future. emails and text messages, i guess. yes, i imagine. well, we're going to talk about what happened on november 22nd, th

fdr doesn't know what he's doing. he's too old and enfeebled. this is going sideways.s it impossible. it doesn't matter who the president is these days. there's going to be the second guessing and that's why what bob said is so important. maybe it doesn't light up the poll right now, but it matters in the long run. >> but the republicans are trying to politicize this now and say, oh, no. let's not give this -- i'm sorry, you know -- >> no. >> have you ever lived week after week in a trench? have you ever gone around where you had to find the mind they won't kill? >> right. >> these -- this isn't -- there are tens of thousands of people. >> may i see that for a second? >> yes, you may. >> frank, we'll finish with you. do you know who thinks about this guy all the time? other than joe biden? chairman mccaul, a republican. >> yeah. yeah. >> you also have the chairman of armed service committee. you've got a lot of house republicans, and a hell of a lot of senate republicans that think about this guy and his comrades every single day. i just have a feeling if there's a bat

had fallen out with fdr over things like the sale or the creation of the tva. willkie was a utilities executive, so you could understand his resentment and having government, in effect, go into and into business for itself. gerald ford the weekend that america first was releasing their national manifest, though gerald ford was didn't philadelphia part of the crowds screaming themselves hoarse. we want willkie and in the most exciting american political convention in history, they got willkie on the fifth of six ballot. and by the way, as you well know, the grand rapids connection because frank mckay, a name that to many people had forgotten in this town, even though it's on a very prominent building downtown, frank mckay was a boss. frank mckay was an old fashioned boss who ran the state of michigan several years in the thirties, and later dominated this city as nobody ever has. and at one point when ford thought he'd like to get involved, you know, in the willkie campaign, his father said, well, you should go talk to frank mckay. and he did. and mckay kept him

the tour above fdr's presidential uss potomac out of oakland, it is happening today for our veterans,30 to 1:30 p.m. >>> people who live in two san jose neighborhoods say something is wrong with their water. valley water has begun working on the water treatment plant so customers in the area of san jose from where 17 meets 85 to the end of almadin expressway will be impacted. it means that the water treatment plant is offline while valley water does the work. that area will be getting locally sourced groundwater. the agency is working on the pipes that deliver that water. >> we're doing infrastructure work on the pipelines that deliver the water to the retailers. while we do this important work and getting in there, that means there may be a source change of water for retailers. >> the agency says the water is perfectly safe to drink although they admit it is likely a little cloudy looking and may have a different taste. this change is expected to last for about six months. >>> new this morning, u.s. child vaccination rates are not yet back to prepandemic leveled. that is according to

and fdr considered him that way as well had had not been assassinated in 1935.he was the 1936 potential presidential candidate who fdr most feared. but there were others. there was william dudley pelly, who was a kook, but he convinced tens of thousands of to join his anti-semitic armed militia that plotted a violent overthrow of the us government, a group called the silver legion or the silver shirts. there was you mentioned a military leader. there was a retired very, very prominent retired general named george van horn mosley. and my favorite thing about him, i am mostly in love with the good guys in this book. i will say i'm a little bit in love with mosley as a terrible person and a bad guy just because of what his weakness ended up being like, what his achilles heel ended up. all these fascist groups are trying to get mosley to agree to be their and mosley loves the idea of it. mosley is proposing that all -- america be forcibly sterilized. i mean, mosley is a monstrous person, and he loves the idea that they're going to put him forward as a fÜhrer. and he

johnson was a fan of fdr of this this picture here young johnson meeting fdr in an fdr campaign swing through texas is captures some of that it's also notable because you can find other versions of this that johnson used in campaign literature in which the guy in the middle who i think is the governor of texa has been airbrushed out. he's gone. but this is the original shot and the johnson's and why a experience was noteworthy years later. robert weaver, who johnson, nominated to become the first secretary of the department of housing and urban development, which and weaver was a approved by the senate, making weaver the first african american member of the cabinet. this is in 1965. and during his confirmation hearings, weaver is before the senate and somebody asks him, well, so what? what draws you to work for this guy? johnson? he's a southerner we always understood that he was a pretty conservative southerner. and we were reported with regard to the national youth administration, quote, i soon heard about this guy down in texas who was shocking some people up on the hill because he