there was that in februa . g , . ,, .,, don't think there was that in februa . g , w ., february.wasn't in l debate in march, itjust wasn't in february — debate in march, it 'ust wasn't in februa . , debate in march, itjust wasn't in february-- why. _ debate in march, itjust wasn't in february. yes. why, when it was lain february. yes. why, when it was plain that — february. yes. why, when it was plain that the — february. yes. why, when it was plain that the viruses _ february. 193 why, when it was plain that the viruses already come to these _ plain that the viruses already come to these shores at the beginning of march, _ to these shores at the beginning of march, was time spent on this doctrinal— march, was time spent on this doctrinal strategic debate which of course _ doctrinal strategic debate which of course culminates in a realisation on the _ course culminates in a realisation on the 13th — course culminates in a realisation on the 13th of march, we are doomed? i on the 13th of march, we are doomed? ithink1_ on the 13th of march, we are doomed? ithink. large _ on the 13t

i — during the course of middle to late februa ? ~' ., during the course of middle to late februa ?before, of course, the change of strategy on the - middle. but well before, of course, the change of strategy on the 13th i the change of strategy on the 13th of march, — the change of strategy on the 13th of march, about which, to which we will come — of march, about which, to which we will come. , of march, about which, to which we will come- it _ of march, about which, to which we will come. yes. it was understood that there — will come. yes. it was understood that there was _ will come. fies it was understood that there was sustained transmission, and if the virus got a grip. _ transmission, and if the virus got a grip, got— transmission, and if the virus got a grip, got ahold in the united kingdom, there was no effective means— kingdom, there was no effective means of— kingdom, there was no effective means of containing it thereafter. there _ means of containing it thereafter. there were — means of containing it thereafter. there were means to mitigate, and the plan through late fe

death that would overwhelm the nhs, certainly in february. would overwhelm the nhs, certainly in februaruary. late february, wasn't it? i would — in february. late february, wasn't it? i would say _ in february. late february, wasn't it? i would say early _ in february. late february, wasn't it? i would say early february. i in february. late february, wasn't it? i would say early february. we will have a — it? i would say early february. we will have a look _ it? i would say early february. we will have a look and _ it? i would say early february. we will have a look and you _ it? i would say early february. we will have a look and you can i it? i would say early february. we will have a look and you can tell . it? i would say early february. we | will have a look and you can tell us where those documents are. did sage tell you that effectively there was no means of controlling the virus was it had reached the united kingdom? t was it had reached the united kinrdom? ., ., was it had reached the united kingdom?— was it had reached the united kinrdom? ., ., ., kingdom? i would not say th