i'm sure you called the fec. what does the fec say?vice chairwoman after the story ran this morning said the same thing we said in the story, that this is murky and kind of hard to go after things like this, but she did signal that there's a possibility that the fec could be looking into the ways the campaigns and outside groups are using social media to communicate. so we might get the ball rolling here. the question is will the fec do anything about it? the answer to that question most experts say is probably not. >> chris moody, many thanks to you. i appreciate it. still to come in the newsroom, bill cosby performed for a packed audience last night. that's right, he took the stage despite some ugly allegations. and guess what? yet another woman has come forward. we'll tell you about that next. the conference call. the ultimate arena for business. hour after hour of diving deep, touching base, and putting ducks in rows. the only problem with conference calls: eventually they have to end. unless you have the comcast business voiceedge

we have questions about appointing commissioners for the fec. would it be -- would it not be better to have independents? a couple of words about the international funding system. >> sure. let me start with your question about where the appointees to the federal election commission come from. like everything else in our system, it is a result of inevitable compromise, as laid out by our constitution. officials of the government entities, entities like the federal election commission, are called independent, but they are really people who have to be nominated by the president, so selected by the president, and then approved, confirmed by the senate. so you have a compromise between the president and the senate. in reality, what has happened for the entire existence of the commission, is that the party that has the presidency picks its people, and the other party, which is represented in congress by leaders of that party, choose their people. even though they are all technically and presidential -- even though they are all technically a presidenti

we have questions about appointing commissioners for the fec. would it be -- would it not be better to have independents? about thef words international funding system. >> sure. let me start with your question about where the appointees to the federal election commission come from. like everything else in our system, it is a result of , as laide compromise out by our constitution. officials of the government entities, entities like the federal election commission, are called independent, but they are really people who have to be nominated by the president, so selected by the president, and then approved, confirmed by the senate. so you have a compromise between the president and the senate. in reality, what has happened for the entire existence of the commission, is that the party picksas the presidency its people, and the other party, which is represented in congress by leaders of that party, choose their people. even though they are all --hnically and presidential even though they are all technically a presidential nomination, if the president

the rules of the fec don't dependon your tax status.ajor purpose is federal campaign activity, and if it is they ought to be registered with the fec and disclosing all donors. >> here's the thing you. find folks at the fec are the ones who mak the ultimate determination on the question. aim right? >> yes. >> you -- >> but. >> people work very hard seem to deadlocked 33-on every single major question of precisely who falls into what category. aim correct about that? >> it has been known to happen. >> which means basically, it's kind of a lawless frontier of craziness out there. you are dead lock on all the major issues, the rulings of do you have to file, when you have to file, and aim right, the election law seems tangled and unclear at this point? >> election law is complicate expelled the supreme court created that application indication in citizens united the court held that independent spending can not cause corruption. the supreme court also held at the same time that disdisclosure is important for voters,craft an informed electora

if it is, they ought to ree disclose to if fec. >> you find folks that the fec are the ones that makee ultimate determination, am i right? >> yes. >> and you wonderful people who work very hard seem to be deadlocked 3-3 on every single major question on precisely who falls into what cat goir. am i correct on that? >> it has been known to happen. >> which means, basically, it's kind of a lulless frontier of craziness out there. and am i right? the election law seems pretty unclear at this point? >> well, the election law is uncomplicated. the supreme court also held at the same time that disclosure is a really important thing for the voters it helps the voters to hold people acountable for the spending of the money and a raising of the money. but in this election, we are seeing, as you pointed out, that an increasing number of outside groups who are swamping the ad campaigns to the point where the outside spenders are actually spending a lot more than the candidates. >> we get our big $100 million check, i could then turn around to a superpac, i've wiped the fingerprints off the gun, s

. >> now, whether that line of thinking is okay, has never been cleared up with the fec.ell, in any case, here's a new one. new tactic. >>> you're not supposed to be able to koord nacoordinate, bru but the spy knows where his loose brick is. so the spies use this public but inconspicuous spots to drop information. that's leek spy novel 101. >> so this is the treat. >> so that's a coded tweet posted on october 25th. if i'm right, that would be polling data. and the last two numbers are where those molling districts are from:s. >> so my guess is those are the internal polling numbers for each of those districts. >> they were looifr until november 3rd. but then they were deleted with questions. so they posted these coded tweets. they pulled down the acounts. this was a koord nated spy way that they want to help, but legally, they can't communicate with: then this would be illegal. >> yes, this issue may come before the fec at some point, but the rules are sadly murky. rules are supposed foe prevent this sort of thing. wet noodle. >> one side benefit, if you ever do need tape

crew had sued the fec when it felt the fec's determination -- what the fec thought was a determination was not adequate enough. indeed, the d.c. circuit court said the determination was not adequate enough. and what crew got as a result after 20 working days was over was that they got an opportunity to go to court. that's referred to as constructive exhaustion of remedies. and the plaintiff has an absolute -- under this decision, the plaintiff has an absolute right to go to court after 20 working days. but it's not clear that they have much other remedy. but anyway, judge brown-jackson said that this case, the crew case, basically stood for the proposition that once you had -- once the agency had not responded in time, you got to go to court. and that was it. epic argued largely because of the -- they won on similar situation in 2006 that there was a presumption that the agency was violating the foia by not responding on time. and that gave them permission to continue -- have the case processed. jackson basically said, well, you know now that the crew case exists, crew versus fec, basi

the vice chair of the fec tweeted, yes, this issue may come before the fec at some point but coordinationules are sadly murky. rules that are supposed to prevent this sort of thing, wet noodle. who knows? knock yourself out with the fake rock twitter dead drops. nobody is coming after you apparently. one side benefit of this whole murky business is if you ever need tape of senator al franken at a kitchen table going like this, that we can do. the senator's campaign can take care of you on that. watch. oh, yeah. that you can have. the more you know. >>> late break update. one of the last two u.s. senate seats to be decide this year. tonight, which is 13 days out from election day, we finally have a winner in alaska. mark begich of alaska has conceded his senate seat to his republican challenger dan sullivan. a number of news outlets, including this one, had called the race for dan sullivan. they characterized dan sullivan as the apparent winner of the rice but senator begich insisted all of the remaining ballots be counted. the state of alaska tonight is still counting ballots and they don

the press can go to the fec and find out who the donors were. it can say most of the donors were corporations or labor unions. will is another type of group that is spending money this year. that is called by the press dark money, which means money that is not disclosed as to its source. so, those are not super pacs. they are ngos. they are nonprofit organizations that are created by individuals or corporations. their principle purpose is not supposed to be to engage in politics because otherwise they would have to file with commissioner weintraub's agency and they would report their donors. but nonetheless, they can spend and do spend a lot of money on politics. and their creation and their disclosure should be regulated by a different government agency, the internal revenue service that focuses on taxes, but for a variety of reasons, it is not doing anything about those groups. so, we have ended up in a situation which was never envisioned by congress, which passed the laws. confusingly, was apparently never envisioned by our supreme court whe

the vice chair of the fec tweeted, yes, this issue may come before the fec at some point but coordinationes are sadly murky. rules that are supposed to prevent this sort of thing, wet noodle. who knows? knock yourself out with the fake rock twitter dead drops. nobody is coming after you apparently. one side benefit of this whole murky business is if you ever need tape of senator al franken at a kitchen table going like this, that we can do. the senator's campaign can take care of you on that. watch. oh, yeah. that you can have. the more you know. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. don't let non-24 get in the way of your pursuit of happiness. wethey were a littlehorizons to mbit skeptical.ss, what they do actually is rocket science. but at ge capital we also bring expertise from across ge, like lean process engineers we asked who does

crew had sued the fec when it felt that the fec's termation was not adequate enough and indeed the d.c. circuit said their determination with a not adequate enough. what the crew got as a result of 21 working days was that they got an opportunity to go to court. that's called a construction of remedies. the plaintiff has the right to go to court after 20 working days. but it's not clear that they have much other remedy. anyways, judge brown -- what's her name -- brown jackson, crth crew case said that once you responded in time, you had to go to court. that was it. epic argued largely because they had won this on similar situation in 2006 there was that the agency was being violated by not responding on time and that gave them permission in having the case processed. jackson basically said, well, now that the crew case exists, crew versus fec, basically, the only remedy you have is to go to court. hopefully you can get the court to be more amenable to your argument but you don't get to force the agency to answer or to respond any more quickly. basically under the expediting processing

the reason i bring it up is bad the fec is required to consider first amendment issues, which they should. one of the major concerns expressed by the administration when dodd-frank was moving forward of our need for a stable energy supplies and the importance for transparency and for the importance of the esters knowing what countries are doing and where the funds are going. it is my understanding that the communication of the state department and at could be critically important to the fec and -underscore nadine portends a stable energy supply. i just urge you to please follow up on not because time is running on this issue. if you want to respond, that is fine. >> thank you for a much, senator. if confirmed, i welcome following appeared if not confirmed, anything i can do to be helpful. >> you still have a day job. >> for the time being, thank you. i want to underscore one day because i think it is so important. corruption and the work you have been doing and other members of this committee have been doing to combat corruption. one of the things that i think is a common denominator arou

at least on the campaign side and the fec reports.y colleague, tom kise, who did the work on this, really terrific report that because you could see the data and the huge jump over 2012. and there were maybe about 100 rides and up to 2,800 rides in the past cycle. so i think what's interesting, brian, is the policy implication going forward. what are the views on these issues surrounding the sharing economy and peer-to-peer networks. >> yeah, absolutely. what do you think the implications are? if you've got the regulators or would-be regulators also being customers of these sharing-economy economies like lyft and uber and others, lots of ride-sharing companies out there, what does it mean? >> we don't know what their views are on other things like air b&b, for example, and other industries. if we use this as sort of a proxy for the views of public officials, we have to think that, you know, they're voting for, you know, to be pro-innovation in this industry in ways that can benefit consumers. i think that's the way we have to interpre

he was the lead lawyer in speech now versus fec, the case that created super pacs and he has litigated many other campaign-finance and constitutional cases over the years. and he has written and spoken on a wide variety of constitutional issues. and there are many print and online publications over the years. >> thank you. thank you very much. thank you all and thank you hungry minds for having me here. it's a pleasure to be back in colorado. and we heard a lot about cronyism in the last several years and there are political right and a lot of libertarians have been talking about this for years and it has become a big issue with the export and import bank him and another of other issues of development. we have also heard a lot about government corruption primarily from the political left and most people understand that these ideas go together and that is part of this because this is really the key issue. and there is a problem and it signifies that it gets to a real phenomenon and it's worth starting with a simple question. and we hear about that all the time and we hear about corrupti

you look at fec reports, what you're going to see is that the rnc has been investing in texas for about a year and a half on the ground with hispanic engagement operations, regional offices, and i would say that gop itself is one of the best parties in hispanic engagement that there is in this country, along with great like greg abbott. so i do believe that texas did a lot of work down there in registering and, again, is the think that they woke up party in that if we don't start recruitingntion to volunteers and engaging hispanic it'ss in texas, that possible the party could have a problem in the years to come. you is thatill tell we don't plan on slowing down in in texas.ment i already know what our budget year in to be for next spending on the ground in texas. and it's going to be because we to hold and have get better in texas because while i don't think it's going problem in 2016, if we were to just forget about texas and think everything is going to there, 2020, 2024, i don't want to see us, you know, becoming a close state or a state that ends up becoming purple. running for anot

the press can go to the fec and find out who the donors were and it can say most of the donors were krpgss or labor unions. there is another type of group that is spending money this year. that is called, by the press, dark money which means money that is not disclosed as to isz source. so those are not super-packs. those are ngos. they are nonprofit organizations that are created by individuals or corporations. their principle purpose is not supposed to be to engage in politics. >> for a variety of reasons, it is not doing anything about those groups. it was never envisioned by our supreme court when it changed the laws because the supreme court said that even though corporations and unions can spend an unlimited amount in elections, it will be disclosed. what's happened is corporations and vimgs who are willing to disclose who they are, given the superpac spends an unlimited amount and you know who the donors are. if you want to hide who they are, they give to one of these ngos. personally, i think they are required to disz close their donors by law. but the agency does not have four vot

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representative richardson garner garnered national attention and a certified teacher returned to the fecnd the documentary school and if the district didn't preclude me from having access to firearm a firearm he thereby concealed carry or locked in my desk was that the children would still be alive into the gunmen would and the gunman would still be dead but not by suicide. where are you both on the gun legislation and should educators carry guns in schools? kitzhaber: schools are not the place for firearms, period. we don't need to go there and we shouldn't. i do support expanding the background check and it makes sense to keep firearms out of the hands of people that shouldn't have them come the people that are mentally unstable and have records of felonies and there should also be accountability for parents whose children gain access to their guns and commit a crime. so i think that those are very reasonable and important steps that i think the issue of school safety goes beyond that. when there is a school shooting come and i was governor when we had the first shooting, state, local