the federal aviation administration approved six drones to ramp up testing. in places like hawaii they are being used to collect crop data and gather vital environmental information through photography. some worry that all of the excitement is drowning out calls of caution especially on the privacy and surveillance front. at least 30 states have pushed for drone restrictions, but to what extent to domestic drones need to be rained now, joining us is president and ceo for the association for unmanned vehicle systems international, the executive director of the american civil liberties union in hawaii, and a faculty member at the university of hawaii's flight training program. ray, hawaii is no stranger to drone testing, and the new authorization means there will be more of it. but why now? why are we seeing this interest in this big ramp up? i am not certain that ray can hear me. so mike, i'm going to direct that question to you. why is there this sudden interest from coast-to-coast in ramping up drone technology and these testing sites? >> well, what has happ

. >> reporter: the federal aviation administration urged boeing in 2010 to update its software. but the airline says boeing hasn't done so. the back and forth will likely lead to a legal battle over financial damages. a process that could take years. what happened with the sfo crash and the malaysian airliner could not be anymore different. in san francisco, the cause is clear. with 370, of course, there's still no answer. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. >> up next, more breaking news. the death toll in the washington landslide is climbing. the latest numbers ahead. plus, a look inside the search zone, 640 acres of mud and debris. you make a great team. it's been that way since the day you met. but your erectile dysfunction - it could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and me

. >> reporter: the federal aviation administration says 105 people stowed away in wheel wells since 1947, only 25 have survived. medical experts say the presence of warm hydraulic lines and tires after takeoff can initially provide significant heat in the wheel well, but as the aircraft climbs, oxygen levels decline and the stowaway gradually becomes unconscious. subzero temperatures cause hypothermia, lowering oxygen demand, and preserving the nervous system. when the plane desends, temperatures rise and oxygen increases, allowing the individual to gradually regain consciousness. the teen has now been released to child protective services in hawaii and not expected to face any federal charges, but there still is the question of how he managed to get on the tarmac here at san jose and, scott, airport authorities say they are investigating, but they point out all of their security measurers here meet federal requirements. >> pelley: carter, thank you very much. pacific gas and electric pleaded not guilty today to a dozen felony charges in the 2010 natural gas pipeline explosion that level

. >> the federal aviation administration is responsible for overseeing the safety of low earth orbitflights and the content of the payload in the us. but when commercial space activities move beyond this sector of space - it becomes less clear who's in charge. the international treaties that exist are there to govern nations not corporations... >> missions where the private sector does have a lot of capability. pushing more responsibility over to them i think is the right thing, it's something that nasa has gotten more comfortable with as we go forward. >> are you concerned about the idea of exploitation beyond exploration? it seems that nasa does exploration, but another other companies are looking at mining asteroids. mining the moon. these types of activities. does that concern you? >> more better. >> even though mining on the moon, there is no hesitation, like 'wait a second, guys.' >> we don't own the moon, nasa doesn't feel any ownership over the moon even though we were the first to get there- - which was great and a great accomplishment--but if people want to do things on the

. >> now, according to the federal aviation administration, 105 people have stowed away inside a wheel well since 1947. the santa clara teen is one of only 25 survivors. >>> san jose police and federal investigators are still trying to determine how this kid got on the tarmac in the first place in mineta international airport. airport's open areas are surrounded by razor wire fence. the boy got over it and through it. sjc's spokesman says its security program meets all federal standards. >> despite this, no system is 100%. and it is possible to scale an airport's perimeter fence line especially undercover of darkness. >> so far, there's no timeline from when the teen hopped the fence and when he got on that plane. but i got to tell you, everyone is talking about this story. >> absolutely. >> a head shaker. >>> 4:34. we're also talking about the rain. >> a couple of scattered showers nothing too heavy. a chance of a few more showers out there this morning but then things going to quickly wind down. the skies will begin to part. those winds probably the major weather story for today. out

the federal aviation administration and the national transportation safety board will be investigating the accident. >> kimberly, thanks very much. >>> tonight, the golden state warriors are celebrating a playoff victory. but all anyone can talk about is their opponents, specifically the owner of the l.a. clippers who is accused of making racist remarks. some are wondering if the controversy may be hurting the clippers on the court. >> that's right. the clippers played like a team under a dark cloud. the alleged tape reflects his owner's frustration over his now ex-girlfriend's association with african americans. >>> before the warm-up began, they turned their warm-up shirts inside out. the nba players' association is asking that he also skip the rest of the post-season. >> there's absolutely no place in the nba family for ignorance, intolerance, reprehensible comments that are unacceptable and not fitting for what this league is all about. >> reporter: tmz first released the report. a male voice is heard making decemb disparaging remarks after she posted an instagram photo of herself

collided during a jump one fell to his death, the other suffering minor leg injuries the federal aviation administration has been called in now to investigate investigate. >> crews hope to recover evidence tonight in the mid air collision two of small planes over san pablo bay. searchers believe they have pinpointed location of the plane's fuj lauj divers expected to begin looking for it this evening. >> problem we have is that it's a rather large debris field. and we've located parts of plane. including a wing, a wheel, as well as other smaller parts. >> here are new images today of the search, including one of a camera used to locate debris. investigators say the cessna flying beside a hawker military helicopter on sunday they may have crashed. the faa now assumes the pilot died. another pilot and passenger landed safely in amador county. >> a proposal to reign in those using air b and b is other services is under fire tonight. from those who say it doesn't go far enough. opponents are threatening to go to voters necessary. abc7 news reporter vic lee has latest developments in this fight. >> we use th

the federal aviation administration tracks stowaways in wheel wells, but not the cargo hold. there could have been more, but there haven't been confirmed. only one in four of those who attempt to stowaway survive. officials say many victims fall out when the pilots lower the landing gear on arrival. at 10:30, our coverage continues. how he went hours in frigid conditions with little oxygen. we ask doctors how that's possible. >>> we're on storm watch tonight, watching a late season system, bringing rain showers to northern california. chief meteorologist, bill martin is tracking the wet weather. >> very little wet weather for us as if goes right now. but showers are showing up on the north coast. we are going to see some showers, but not a lot. you can see where the showers are, and where they are not. this is a very weak weather system that will progress south as we go into the next five or six hours. you can see most of the activity really still north of the area. what does the computer model say? this is just the model, how much rain are we going to get? san jose, maybe .0

collided during a jump one fell to his death, the other suffering minor leg injuries the federal aviation administration has been called in now to investigate investigate. >> crews hope to recover evidence tonight in the mid air collision two of small planes over san pablo bay. searchers believe they have pinpointed location of the plane's fuj lauj divers expected to begin looking for it this evening. >> problem we have is that it's a rather large debris field. and we've located parts of plane. including a wing, a wheel, as well as other smaller parts. >> here are new images today of the search, including one of a camera used to locate debris. investigators say the cessna flying beside a hawker military helicopter on sunday they may have crashed. the faa now assumes the pilot died. another pilot and passenger landed safely in amador county. >> a proposal to reign in those using air b and b is other services is under fire tonight. from those who say it doesn't go far enough. opponents are threatening to go to voters necessary. abc7 news reporter vic lee has latest developments in this fight. >> we use th

in 2000, the ntsb recommended the federal aviation administration require airlines to record electronicd in two cockpit data recorders, one the front of the plane, not the rear. in the last 14 years the recommendation has gone nowhere beyond being a suggestion. >> this information would be limited to accident investigation use. otherwise would not be available for viewing by anyone. >> jim haugh was chairman of the ntsb when the recommendation you made. after the investigation of several crashes found there wasn't enough cockpit data to determine what went wrong. >> the cameras would not be on the face of either of the pilot or the co-pilot. they would focus on the instruments and manipulations made. >> we see it edging more and more toward taking the privacy of the pilots. we are doing our job up there and i'd rather focus on my job than what people are seeing. >> he says it higher priority than pilot privacy. >> i hope we won't wait until we have a similar incident involving united states airline and united states citizens to take the action necessary to provide for the safety and sec

now the federal aviation administration, which is the agency that mainly has jurisdiction here has thist as well and it is available, what's the problem? >> well that's a good question. there's plenty of compelling reasons to do this. some might say cost is the problem but one of the certainlies like the search under way now for this malaysia airliner the cost of that sort of surge would pay for these things indefinitely. so there's no comparison. there's also the security argument where we need to know as soon as we can whether there was a terrorist attack or some other eventuality and closure for these families who have the agony of a long wait. >> thanks so much to representative david price. so as ships search for underwater sounds from those black boxes, malaysian sources tell cnn the planes may have intentionally avoided airspace. they are hesitant about any new leads. >> reporter: chinese families here are aware of new information, many have watched the australian news conference. in general they are taking a cautious approach because there's been so many false leads in the past.

the federal aviation administration tracks stowaways in wheel wells, but not the cargo hold. there could have been more, but there haven't been confirmed. only one in four of those who attempt to stowaway survive. officials say many victims fall out when the pilots lower the landing gear on arrival. at 10:30, our coverage continues. how he went hours in frigid conditions with little oxygen. we ask doctors how that's possible. >>> we're on storm watch tonight, watching a late season system, bringing rain showers to northern california. chief meteorologist, bill martin is tracking the wet weather. >> very little wet weather for us as if goes right now. but showers are showing up on the north coast. we are going to see some showers, but not a lot. you can see where the showers are, and where they are not. this is a very weak weather system that will progress south as we go into the next five or six hours. you can see most of the activity really still north of the area. what does the computer model say? this is just the model, how much rain are we going to get? san jose, maybe .0

believe it or not federal aviation administration rules make it difficult for us to know who was on thatt and who was flying it. we watched the people get off the aircraft and they were vips. that's where the trail went cold john. >> we have been told that the plane was held in trust buy bank in the u.s. what do we know john? >> it turns out that the plane is held in trust by the bank of utah. it turns out as well that they actually hold more than 1100 aircraft in trust. this is a legal device of course so consortiums can own aircraft and fly them all over the world without any of us knowing who's actually putting up the money behind the aircraft. brett king is the spokesman for the bank and we have this word from him: we have no idea how that plane got at the airport and any hint of wrongdoing we'll find out about it. the mystery gets deeper and deep are the more you go into it. >> now there's some indication why the plane was there according to the iranians. what do you say about that? >> i think it's important to put a caveat, according to the news agency, from the foreign ministry in

steve wallace is former director of federal aviation administration office of accident investigation. miles o'berry scene a cnn aviation analyst. gentlemen thanks for being here. tim i want to start with you. we know this frequency came in at 33.3 kilohertz lower than the standard 37.5. does that rule out that this is possibly from the black boxes? >> no not necessarily. the battery strength water is a very diffuse medium and full of layers of temperature and pressure gradients that can distort and reflect this, so i think that it is in the range. these manufacturers always say that they are plus or minus on the range as well so not always right dead on. and if you factor all that in it's the hit not a biological type thing. it sounds manmade. in my book that does not count it out at all. this is a credible hit even if it's at 33 kilohertz. >> miles we'll get more into the frequency discussion later. i want to play some sound from the brother of one of the passengers flight 370 passenger phillip wood from texas. he was on erin burnett "outfront" just a few moments ago. >> at midnight

in addition to the assistance of the federal aviation administration and manufacturers. whether it is boeing, ge, we have a lot of partners around the world. who leads the investigation? the country of origin is the first believed. if the accident does not occur within territorial waters or country on land, it is the aircraft, which in this case does malaysia. annex 13 has served well over the past years and has allowed us to anticipate and a lot of foreign accident and allowed countries to come to the united states to help us. whether it is bombarding a friend canada or airbus from france, we have enjoyed international cooperation. aviation knows no boundaries. save the issues are international issues and we work together to find the answers. we have a good framework with annex 13. is there room for improvement? there is always room for improvement and that is what people won't work on in the coming years i am certain. to figure out what can be done better. water recoveries are in the torilla sleep difficult and very expensive and time-consuming. we continue to work on

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the federal aviation administration regulations did away with that a long time ago when they said youe to have two people in the cockpit on every commercial passenger flight. why because pilots engage in constant crew resource management. they must challenge each other all the time. if they are constantly doing themselves all the time they have no time for privacy activities, half of which require you to be naked. we know that isn't happening. there is no privacy in the cockpit. 9/11, egypt air, silk air, malaysia and air france. those five alone there are 4200 deaths. that's about the iraq war. on those five crashes, it was a mystery what the pilots were doing. when you put it down to raw, hard data that's a lot of lives lost. it is a practical issue when almost 300 accidents, commercial plane crashes are caused by pilot mistakes. makes perfect sense to cut down on them. >> les is about to jump out of his seat. go ahead. >> thank you, don. 4200 deaths is significant and the family and we don't have to get in to that. but what would you have prevented with a camera in the cockpit. all

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. >> reporter: the federal aviation administration urged boeing in 2010 to update its software.. the back and forth will likely lead to a legal battle over financial damages. a process that could take years. what happened with the sfo clash and the malaysian airliner could not be anymore different. in san francisco, the cause is clear. with 370, of course, there's still no answer. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. >> up next, more breaking news. the death toll in the washington landslide is climbing. the latest numbers ahead. plus, a look inside the search zone, 640 acres of mud and debris. jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some financial folks who will talk to them about preparing early for retirement and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. it'

. >> reporter: in 2000 the national transportation safety board recommended the federal aviation administrationrd electronic images, data that would be included in two redundant cockpit data recorders, one in the front of the plane, another in the rear. but in the last 14 years that recommendation has gone nowhere beyond being a suggestion. >> this information would be limited to accident investigation use and otherwise would not be available for viewing by anyone. >> reporter: jim hall was chairman of the ntsb when the recommendation was made. after the investigation of several crashes found there wasn't enough cockpit data to determine what went wrong. >> the cameras would not be on the face of either of the pilot or the co-pilot. they would focus on the instruments and on the manipulations that are made. >> we constantly see the edging and edging more towards taking away the privacy of our pilots. we're performing our job up there. i would rather be focused on doing my job than what people are seeing. >> reporter: yet safety as a higher priority than pilot privacy. >> i hope that we won't wa

. >> reporter: in 2000, the national transportation safety board recommended the federal aviation administration require airlines to record electronic images, data that would be included in two redundant cockpit data recorders, one in the front of the plane, another in the rear. but in the last 14 years, that recommendation has gone nowhere beyond being a suggestion. >> this information would be limited to accident investigation use and otherwise would not be available for viewing by anyone. >> reporter: jim hall was chairman of the ntsb when the recommendation was made. after the investigation of several crashes found there wasn't enough cockpit data to determine what went wrong. >> the cameras would not be on the face of either of the pilot or the co-pilot. they would focus on the instruments and on the manipulations of -- that are made. >> we constantly see the edging and edging more towards taking away the privacy of the pilots. we're performing our job up there. i would rather be focused on doing my job than what people are seeing. >> reporter: yet hall sees passenger safety as a higher pri

federal aviation administration reinstated the philippines to a category 1 status.his will redound to mutual benefit for our countries from opening more routes for travel between the united states and philippines to creating more business opportunities to facilitating increased tourism -- agreement between our countries on the terms and concessions for the u.s. to support the philippines' request for the extension of special treatment for our rice imports until 2017. we also discussed the transpacific partnership, which is a high standard trade agreement that will shape the global and regional economic architecture in the 21st century. the philippines is working to assert how participation in tpp can be realized. the signing of the comprehensive agreement last march 27th brings a just and lasting peace within our reach, a peace that will serve as a strong foundation for stability, inclusivity and progress in mindanao. this was born of the steadfast commitment and the hard work of our administration, the moral islamic liberation front, and other partners and stakehol

so the federal aviation administration, the faa, announcing a major upgrade to the next generation transportationm. air traffic controllers could better track our aircraft and pilots have more access to information in the cockpit. so to washington we go to cnn aviation correspondent renee marsh. explain some of the changes. are some of the upgrades already in use? >> yes. some of the upgrades are already in place. and i should tell you, this is all part of what's called next gen. it's been in the works for years, and intended for aviation to be safer and more efficient. the faa is using satellite to track aircraft instead of old ground-based radar systems. radar systems we should tell you, they upgrade the aircraft's position every 4.4 seconds. the satellite systems would aircraft the aircraft continuously. and the more precise information would allow controllers to better control aircraft in the air. satellites can also cover areas where radar is limited, such as over the gulf of mexico, as well as in mountain valleys. so naturally, brooke, the question is, could this sort of satellite tracking

how police are trying to crack down on all of the jenna: well the federal aviation administration approving outdoor testing facility for drones. the faa hopes to discover how the aircraft can be implemented in us air space but the project raising of course major concerns about air traffic safety and the potential for cyberterrorism as well. john roberts is live from atlanta with more on this story. >> reporter: jenna, good morning to you. we got an exclusive look inside one of the six faa drone test sites. this one at texas a&m university in "corpus christi." researcherses are wrestling with how drones are safely integrated into us air space and what they would be best used for. some of the hurdles they're tackling, how could drones stay away from other aircraft and objects. how to address privacy concern because almost every drone is equipped with a camera. the danger that the drone gps navigation system could be jammed or hacked and the drone could be set off course. the university professor said that is a big concern. >> if it was in a very populated area, obviously, if it's a large dron

in addition to the assistance of the federal aviation administration and manufacturers. whether it is boeing, ge, we have a lot of partners around the world. leads the investigation? the country of origin is the first believed. if the accident does not occur within territorial waters or country on land, it is the aircraft, which in this case does malaysia. annex 13 has served well over the past years and has allowed us to anticipate and a lot of foreign accident and allowed countries to come to the united states to help us. whether it is bombarding a friend canada or airbus from france, we have enjoyed international cooperation. aviation knows no boundaries. save the issues are international issues and we work together to find the answers. withve a good framework annex 13. is there room for improvement? there is always room for improvement and that is what people won't work on in the coming years i am certain. to figure out what can be done better. water recoveries are in the torilla sleep difficult and very expensive and time-consuming. we continue to work on better rec

i must say, the fbi is already here, the ntsb is already here, the federal aviation administration is already here. they have been the source of a lot of what we have heard from the investigators' side. but the progress, well, that's what we haven't heard. and some even openly question -- >> and it looks like we lost jim clancy there, as you saw. major weather behind him, a big, big thunderstorm. so, that affects the signal. we'll get him back as soon as we can. >>> more news breaking overnight. another strong earthquake off the coast of chile, this one measuring 7.6. another strong earthquake leading to evacuations all along the country's northern coast. this was a day after another very, very big quake, 8.2 magnitude, rattling that same region. that left six people dead and thousands of homes damaged. no word yet on damage or injuries from this latest earthquake, but we know, poppy, that indeed, there have been a lot of tremors recently. >> right. >> that big one, 8.2, but tremors before and after, now another 7.6. so really frayed nerves, i would say, in northern chile. >> absolute

the fact of the matter is boeing like the federal aviation administration in the united states is participating in the accident investigation under the international civil aviation rules and malaysian rules. the likelihood that anybody that is a participant in the investigation is going to speak publicly as opposed to the malaysian government which is leading the investigation is highly unlikely, and so no, i don't think it's appropriate. it's no more appropriate than going to the fbi, the families going to the fbi and demanding answers. simply we're not in a position, the parties that are part of the investigation are simply not in a position to go off on their own and start releasing information. >> mary, i don't equate boeing with the fbi. if i'm a family member who has lost a loved one on board that plane, i wants to know from boeing if there are any known mechanical problems with boeing 777s. if they're involved in the investigation, i might want to know what they found out? can they give me any information at all? isn't that fair? >> well, usually what they ask, when other people that i'm

>> well, the airport is, and the airport is responsible and has to report to both the federal aviation administration and the tsa, and apparently even though they had the fence, a requirement of federal regulations and the surveillance cameras, also a requirement. the third component is someone actually watching the surveillance cameras's apparently in did not have and only looked at them later. a huge gap in security. what's the point of the billion of dollars of equipment we've purchased after 9/11 if nobody pays attention to it? >> should we be concerned on a national scale this might be happening at other airports across the country? >> oh, it is. it is happening all over. we've put the equipment in place and rely heavily on the equipment. we assume the equipment once we buy the equipment and put it in place and in some ways have the problem with september 11th. put in, back then, much older generation equipment, though, but metal detectors, x-ray equipment and then the screeners just routinely ignored them. so i think it's a little bit of a wake-up call here. it's time to actually look at the eq

we lend our assistance in addition to the assistance of the federal aviation administration and the manufacturers whether it's boeing, honeywell, ge. we have a lot of partners who come along with us around the world. the 13 guides who leads the investigation of the country of the occurrence of the accident is the first lead, but if the accident doesn't occur within territorial waters or on land, it's the country of registry of the aircraft, which in this case is malaysia. annex 13 has served us very well over the years. it's allowed us to participate in a lot of foreign accidents, and it's also about other countries to come to the united states to help us, whether it's bombardier from canada, airbus from france. we have enjoyed the benefits of international cooperation. aviation knows no boundaries. safety issues are international issues, and we all work together to try to find the answers. we have a good framework with icao annex 13. is the room for improvement? there's always room for improvement, and that's what people will work on in the coming years, i am certain, as the genoa summit and the

the federal aviation administration has named virginia tech one of six federally certified sites for unmanned aircraft research. guests -- john green, head of the mid-atlantic aviation partnership. you can see washington journal live tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. washingtonfrom the journal this morning, a discussion about the economy five years after the financial crisis. >> our next guest is the author of the road to global prosperity. good morning. thanks for being with us. fessor at johns hopkins university. thank you for being with us. guest: pleasure to be with you. host: one of the quotes that summarizes the thesis, you write makes sense. not always the reality. guest: not always reality, and particularly difficult for the global economy. stability is provided by government but there is no world government, but there is a world economy. who provides the framework for the global economy? the answer is we do. the united states does. this is one of the great services -- indeed, i would say the greatest service that the united states provides to the world. for a variety of

but we call the faa, the federal aviation administration, the tombstone agency.em that because we said we regulated it by counting tomb stones. and that's not just being flippant because in fact they have to do a cost benefit analysis before they put forth any regulation. and the cost of the regulation must not exceed the value of the lives lost. because if the value of the lives exceed the cost of the regulation, then they'll go ahead with it. but if the regulation is too expensive, then they won't. so if -- the secret of what caused the crash is lost with the plane, they'll never be able to do that valuation. and they'll say well, we have no indication of how much this loss of life would cost versus the regulation. and that's really how we regulate. we actually have to evaluate the loss of life versus the cost of the regulation. and that's actually a federal reg. >> how long do you think before we start seeing some information that is where you can just pull it out of the computer instead of going to the bottom of the ocean with multimillion-dollar searches to

take you to one of six federal aviation administration drone head sites to talk about current research. are asking our viewers to call in and tell us what you think about domestic drone use. you support or oppose it? give us a call and tell us why. if you are outside the u.s., you can catch up with us on social media pages on twitter, facebook or e-mail. a good friday morning to you. we will be keeping our phones yourthis morning as we get thoughts on this question. domestic drones. tell us why. ew the meantime, this p research project finding came out. it notes that the legal and regulatory framework for operating nonmilitary drones is currently the subject of debate. part of the topic we are talking about today on the washington journal heard to help us discuss and get this topic going, we are bringing in brian fong of the washington post heard he is a technology writer there. start us off by talking about what the rules are for commercial drone use. the faa is working on more clear rules about drones. that is set up a situation where it is actually legal for commercial drones to be

federal aviation administration, where we had probably some of the strictest rules about turning thecouple of months ago, the faa said during that time period they did a study and they found perhaps as many as 30% of cellphones during any given flight were left on. they fall asleep and that's it. >> all we know is that was on. we don't know why. we know the rumor pill is going to go crazy on this. as far as we know so far it was on. we don't know if it had neg anyg to do with the trajectory or the altitude of the plane but all we know is that it was on and they should have said that sooner. >> and they should have been able to say they looked at the 238 other people on the plane and that checked for their cellphones. granted, some of them are the anonymous cellphones that can't be traced, but not everyone on that cellphone had anonymous cellphone. release with the information of the co-pilot cellphone should have been the information about the 238 other cellphones likely on that plane. >> we wait to hear about that. the luck with the bluefin going down and the analysis on the oil spi

that is the required lifetime by the federal aviation administration for the two manufacturers to meet the 30 days, at the end of life when the pingers put on the air frame. it can be on the air frame for six years. at the end of that if it goes in the water we're supposed to last 30 days at a required output power, then we'll start to drop o off, the pinger starts to declay in amplitude, maybe in frequency which is what they think is happening here. the ultimate lifetime depends so much on the battery storage, the exact design of the pinger, things like that. >> and as we understand it, the sounds, those pings, were detected after that 30-day period. so we're talking about a real stroke of luck here that perhaps the batteries may have lasted a little bit longer than the 30 days even though the past four days now nothing has been heard. >> it would have been very unlikely the batteries would have been dead the day after 30. it's what happens at 36, 37, 38. that begins to get a little bit out of the comfort zone of where we want to be. >> okay. and we have a flight data recorder on the

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