federal savings bank engaged in an ongoing mortgage fraud conspiracy. they routinely falsified and faked mortgage documents, and then deceived the federal national mortgage associationonly known as fannie mae. they took fannie mae's money for loans riddled with lies, all the while promising that the loans contained truthful and verified information. the defendants did this over and over and over again, and between 2005 and 2010, the bank earned millions of dollars servicing and selling fraudulent loans to fannie mae. the defendants conspired to steal money from fannie mae and did in fact steal money from fannie mae. >> historians tell us that abraham lincoln loved riddles, and one of his favorites went like this: "if you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?" and the answer is four, because calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. calling fannie mae a victim of grand larceny and fraud is like calling a dog's tail a leg. we have no loss. we have no harm. we have no larceny. we have no fraud. (phone ringing) >> hello? >> heather? you're on speaker. >> okay. so how did everything go today? >> it was a very long day. >> we're exhausted. i'm so tired. >> d