russian scientists, academician of the russian academy of sciences, director of the federal rural center for management informaticsportantly, dean of the faculty of computational mathematics and cybernetics of moscow state university. hello. mikhail, that is, let's start with who the it people are. here is some classification. we can say that we today, all it people, as soon as we had smartphones, in which we now have them, we all had to be able to use tools, information technology, to be able to use these gadgets to understand how they work. otherwise, we simply will not fit into the modern rhythm and lifestyle with those people who have associated their profession with this phenomenon with these technologies. with these tools that actually create them, these technologies, including those that create them, of course, i think this is the most, of course, the fundamental layer of it people, who develop methods in our time they were called engineers. engineers, including, i think i mean , scientists, scientists, not only scientists who, on the basis of fundamental mathematical results of deep penetration into these