today belongs to russia's federal security service. alexander patrician of the k.g.b. he was looking through secret stating from the civil war when he came across a document pertaining to the nine hundred twenty s. it contained a description of the medal stand before culture came to power the new medals the inscription liberation of siberia. knew the medals had already been stamped more than mapped out so they were made of precious metals he ordered them to be added to his gold reserves although most of that is to say the russians called reserve. he said it should be kept in church basements in temple other additions included church on a month and possibly valuables belonging to the family a former russian empire. there are two cases between moscow and to balls to go this is a historical russian city it was founded in the sixteenth century and it used to be the capital of siberia with the with siberian ocean of culture x. gold kept of where did it end. there are many streets and churches around to poles according to alexander patricians theory the siberian portion of c

levitt reporting from the research service gave a excellent presentation o the nonhealth nonsocial security portions of the federal mandatory spenting site things like veteran, earned income tax credit, the unemployment benefit program, and pointed out a number of areas to make changes again making sure we take a hard look at any unnecessary or ineffective programs as we go about doing the scrutiny that we must on all aspects of the budget to find savings where we can. it was generally, i believe, a robust conversation and constructive on the part of the two presenters and something to help guide us as we move forward. >> thank you very much. mr. ryan. >> there's nothing i can really add, but it's pretty interesting i think we had a fresh analysis from medicare and medicaid since the passa of the last health care bill. we have made is clear we have different opinions of the health care bill, but leaving those aside, the actuary was situation are the health care programs and the primary drivers are excess health care costs and aging of the population. those are the things that are the primary drivers of the fiscal

federal service. elsewhere, the department of defense to ensure security clearance as evidence of their suitabblity. we are moving in that direction we are the largest federal law enforcement agency in the federal government. having a security clearance is not in fighting in new to work in the law enforcement job. it does slow it down. everyone knows it is not need any help in slowing down. we are working on that for defects borders as one of the parties you brought up. a lot of concern about how porous the southern border is. do you have indications that is being exploited by terrorists? >> the southern border, no, we do not. secretary in the paula tonneahan borrer has never been more secure than it is today. >> the northern border certainly is. our borders are as secure as they have ever been. we have to create a system that keeps dangerous people out and a system that expedite legitimate trade and travel. we have to find ways and we are finding ways to expedite the legitimate trade and travel so we can focus on those dangers. >> howdy make it? -- hoo do you make it? >> then this can be climbed. >

federal service elsewhere. the department of defense takes your security clearance as evidence of suitability, and we're movingin that direction, but we're also the largest law enforcement agency in the federal government. adding a security clearance does not clear you to work in a law enforcement job. but it certainly does slow it down. anybody who is been in the federal hiring system knows that we don't need any help in slowing down. >> up quick question on border since that is one of the priorities that you brought a. a lot of concern about how porous the southern border in particular is. do you have indications of that being exploited by terrorists, people coming across the southern border? for the northern border? >> as secretary of palatine of, of border governors, and who is driven every mile of the southern border, the southern border has never been more secure than it is today. >> but it is not one under%. the southern border certainly is not. >> and our borders are as secure as they have ever been, and we have to create a system that keeps dangerous people and goods out, but also a system that expedi

service itself. guest: it is not complicated. think of the postal regulatory commission like the federal trade commission or the securities exchange commission, except our only job is to regulate the postal service. the postal service is a wholly owned agency of the united states government, but it is independent. is budgeted from the rest of government. -- it is budgeted separately from the rest of government. the postal service has a board of governors kind of like the board of directors of a private corporation. they are appointed by the president, confirmed by the senate for terms, and there are nine of them that serve along with the managers of the postal service as an executive committee. the board of governors gets to choose to the postmaster general is. so it is a mixed agency, not entirely government administrate it, not a private company because it is owned by the government and is supposed to make some profit but not beyond what is necessary, given its monopoly role. and managed in directly by the government. host: thank you for waiting. you're on the republican line with ruth goldway. caller: first of all, i would like

federal service. they take the security clearance as evidence of your suitability. we also have a number of -- having a security clearance does not entitle you to work in a law enforcement job. this is certainly slows it down. anyone who has been in the hiring system as it does not need any help in slowing down. we are working on that. >> a lot of concern about how porous in the southern border is. do you have indications that it is being exploded -- exploited by terrorists? do you think terrorists are coming across the northern or southern borders? >> secretary of the soliton know, a governor of a border state -- secretary janet of paul lozano, who was a governor of a border state, the southern border has not been more secure than it is today. >> but it is not close to anything near 100% sign. >> our borders are secure as they have ever been. we have to create a system that does keep dangerous people and goods out but also one that exercise legitimate trade and traffic. we are finding ways, again, working within the industry to expedite legitimate trade and travel

region, the federal government, have a vigorous telework program in place because without that there is no continuity of operations plan of any meaning. for national security reasons and in service to the taxpayers we serve through the federal agencies, we must have a vigorous telework program in place. in the national capital region if we could reach 20% of our daily commuters of 2.5 million people, teleworking at least one day a week, we could take 4% to 6% of the cars off the road every day. improving air quality, improving congestion and productivity. the federal government being the largest employer has a special responsibility. i mentioned at&t has 33% teleworking in its work force. the average in the federal government ranges from 6% to 10%. far below what the private sector is doing. we can and must do better. the federal work force lends itself to telework in some way that is are unique to the federal work force and we know the benefits. we have heard some arguments here that only 10% of the congress sits on the oversight and government reform committee and therefore we need more time to make sure we can examine this legislation and its cost. i would argue there are no

federal service elsewhere. the department of defense takes your security clearance as evidence of suitability, and we're moving in that direction, but we also have a number of law enforcement, we're also the largest law enforcement agency in the federal government. having a security clearance does not clear you to work in a law enforcement job. but it certainly does slow it down. anybody who is been in the federal hiring system knows that we don't need any help in slowing down. we're working on that. >> a quick question onboarders since that is one of the priorities that you brought up. a lot of concern about how porous the southern border in particular is. do you have indications of that being exploited by terrorists, people coming across the southern border? or, in fact, the northern border? >> as secretary napolitano, who has driven every mile of the southern border, the southern border has never been more secure than it is today. >> but it is still not anywhere close to 100% scuret. >> but our borders are as secure as they have ever been, and we have to create a system that keeps dangerous people and goods

federal service elsewhere. people have the department of defense, taking your security clearance as evidence of your suitabilityand we are moving in that direction, but we also have a number of law enforcement, the largest federal law enforcement agency in the government. having security clearance does not entitle you to work in a law enforcement job, but we're working to streamline the process because it certainly does slow down. anyone who has been in federal any help in slowing it down.d >> quick question on borders since that is one of the priorities you brought up. a lot of concern about the southern border in particular. do you have any indication that the south is being supported by terrorists? or in front, a lawyer in order? >> secretary napolitano has said many times, the southern border has never been more secure than it is today. >> and the northern border certainly is. >> our borders are as secure as they have ever been, and we have to create a system that does keep dangerous people and goods out, but also, a system that expedites legitimate trade and travel, so we have to find ways -- and we are fi

services deserve to be here. >> let's go to our rebuttal. 45 seconds with senator mccain on border security. >> the situation is dire. we have the federal government suing the state of arizona because the federal government has not fulfilled its responsibilities to secure the border. they are suing the state of arizona. why are they not shooing staccato -- suing chicago? that she stood up. the fact is, our federal government . >> we have hundreds of laws on immigration and naturalization requirements. all of this is the responsibility congress. this is all included in title 8 which is the immigration and naturalization code. congress has the ability, because we have three equal branches of government, they have the ability to use the confirmation process to hold the executive branch accountable and make them enforce the laws that are already on the books. >> as a former broadcaster, i am amazed to hear that senator mccain is no surprise. arizona, because the feds would not act, because john was writing that amnesty bill with ted kennedy when i was there, arizona had to act. senate bill 1070 says that president obama wants to ignore exis

secure the border. the federal government has the resources to do what it chooses to do. the internal revenue service comes to mind. the american citizenry understands that if we do not pay our taxes, you'll come and get us. we believe that we have to commit whatever resources are necessary to secure the border. that does not mean to close the border, but it does need to have control over the border, to have control over who comes in and who goes out. a statement was made earlier that it is immoral -- some people argue that it is immoral to enforce our nation's laws. i do not think that is fair or right. what is immoral is to not have forced the nation's laws for over two decades. then to say, now we're going to enforce the law and we are going to enforce it retroactively. it would be like if the government sent a letter to every driver in america and said, but the way, for the last 24 years we have been conducting surveillance by satellite on the interstate and up until now we have not had the ability to ticket you for all of the times you have exceeded the speed limit, but we do now. so now, we're

federal laws. host: governor gary herbert is the 17th governor of utah and sits on the health and human services standing committee, also the task force and the homeland securitypecial committee. next call comes from utah. wade, go ahead. caller: i really want to talk about immigration. however, since you have a national stage here, let me just ask you if you would share with the country how we are affected in utah by the control that the federal government has over so much land. maybe you could let the country know the percent of land in utah that is actually controlled by the federal government, what effect that has on our economy. i lived in texas for a while and i have a feeling that if we had control like texas does of the minerals and the energy coming out of our land we would have a lot fewer problems as far as raising funds. but also, how it affects our recreation and how it affects our ability to use historical roads. host: thanks for your call. guest: thank you. i was in texas not too long ago. in texas they have about 2% or 3% of the entire land mass thass federally owned and controlled. the blm in utah owns about 69% of the state of utah. we only h

federal laws. host: governor gary herbert is the 17th governor of utah and sits on the health and human services standing committee, also the task force and the homeland security special committee. next call comes from utah. wade, go ahead. caller: i really want to talk about immigration. however, since you have a national stage here, let me just ask you if you would share with the country how we are affected in utah by the control that the federal government has over so much land. maybe you could let the country know the percent of land in utah that is actually controlled by the federal government, what effect that has on our economy. i lived in texas for a while and i have a feeling that if we had control like texas does of the minerals and the energy coming out of our land we would have a lot fewer problems as far as raising funds. but also, how it affects our recreation and how it affects our ability to use historical roads. host: thanks for your call. guest: thank you. i was in texas not too long ago. in texas they have about 2% or 3% of the entire land mass thass federally owned and controlled. the blm in utah owns about 69% of the state of utah. we only

security and intelligence, but they are an entrenched part of the energy department. 3/4 of people working for government are actually working for private companies. the amount that the federal government has devoted to services is gone from something like $125 billion in 2001 to about $325 billion in 2008. that is a huge upswing. that is how fast it has grown. that is how fast the shadow government has grown. the number of government officials who oversee private contractors has not merely kept up. very often, we have government officials signing on the dotted line for policies that have been developed and written essentially by contractors. guest: you have written a number of books. what is your background? how did this become an area of expertise for you? guest: i am a social anthropologist by training. my earlier career and continuing career was in eastern europe. i started off working in poland studying how people actually functioned in a communist society. this is in the early 1980's under martial law. i was 10 years old at the time, of course. from that, i learned the importance of studying networks in a system that is rapidly changing. what does that have to do with the american federal government tod