feere at 100% of medicare per service.it is politically oriented. instead of saying by 2024, if we , ifn't had enough momentum we haven't invested properly and costs don't go down, we have made a big mistake. i think we have to hold everybody accountable, including the insurance companies and to say, wherery, he going to do to make medicaid costs go down? reporter: an additional $70 billion to stabilize these exchanges. what would it take to get you back yet? is that a positive step? guest: i think it is. i think this reinsurance model, continuing cost reductions, flattening out the curve on the poverty level so they don't drop off receptively, which -- drop off precipitously. if we can get that underway, we can stabilize. ♪ see the sameyou problems with the health care system the president does? he talks about it being a crisis or failing. is that resonate -- is that rhetoric measured? doesn't reflect the way that insurance looks to you? guest: the exchange program in the marketplace was very successful. we just added 3,

. >> that's true i wond feer if the market says s is going to be the story for the for seeable futureable future. washington remains preoccupied with this. >> it torpedos at agendaa. you know, they're all occupied with this. i mean, they're on the razor's edge trying to get any kind of compromise on health care, on tax reform they don't have a clear overwhelming majority on any of these issues and if people keep getting absorbed in all of this and each one of these things, it brings him a little bit less support among the republicans who with an election coming up would like to wash their hands some of of the issues they don't know if they'll be resolved by the time the election takes place. >> sure. >> art, is anything really going to spook this market i mean i do see it looks like gold moved on from, you know, 1208 to 1213, 1214 on this news. it's coming back down. this was supposed to be a slam dunk republican president, republicans in both houses of congress, tax reform certainly let's see what else we can get now with tweets like this coming out once again, e-mails but this time