feinstein or c.i.a. >> i think feinstein will win the fight. secretary wouldn't say who president obama agrees with. he has seen the senate report at least the draft of it and the c.i.a. response and releasing it will close the chapter in u.s. history. president won't say who he thinks is right. continue to lay the versions of the truth out and hope the question goes away. >> it is not going away here. the american people care about this stuff a lot. these people are operating in our name. they are protecting our country. thank you for joining us. >>> up next, why are conservatives so upset that president obama did that funny thing in "between the ferns" with zach galifianakis? who gives a rat's butt? we are going to argue about it. this is "hardball." [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great north

c.i.a. not to remove it or destroy it. senator feinstein pointedly referred to the episode in 2005 when the c.i.a. destroyed a number of interrogation video tapes showing these methods like water boarding. basically she was saying how could we know that they weren't going to do it again. >> rose: what do we know was in the panetta review? what was there? >> what we think the panetta review is, was a series, is a series of sort of memo that are summarizing the documents. so as soon as the c.i.a. gave millions of documents over to the senate intelligence committee, then director of the cia leon panetta says as we're giving these dump to the committee we should know what's in them. there was an effort to document through a series of memos what is in these, what is in this massive data dump. and what the committee has said is that some of what's in the panetta review is not only just summaries but also conclusions saying you know, that not only criticizing the interrogation methods but also being very critical about the information or lack ther

or any other governmental function. i have asked for an apology. >> the c.i.a. strongly denied senatosenator feinstein'seg. >> nothing could be further from the truth. we wouldn't do that. that's just--that's just beyond the scope of reason. >> more now from washington, d.c. >> as chair of the intelligence committee dianne feinstein is one of the biggest supporters of the intelligence community constantly supporting the surveillance bought ou out by edward snowed den. she said as part of their investigation they found an internal review document which suggested that the c.i.a. had broken the rules, misled congress and the president about the efficacy of torture. but that document suddenly disappeared. that suggested that the c.i.a. had access to the senate commuters, and that breaks the constitution. the department of justice is investigating both the c.i.a. but also the senate committee for improperly potentially accessing that document. that's what the c.i.a. alleges. we'll have to wait to see what they come up. meanwhile dianne feinstein said president obama needs to release the document so we can de

c.i.a. director and what he is saying. is that not enough? >> well, if i was the chairman of the committee dianne feinstein, i would say no, because either crimes were committed or the c.i.a. wrongfully accessed congressional computers. they have to put the pressure on the executive branch and they have ways of doing that. >> we had a c.i.a. analyst who maintained that what was taken out were documents that she beliefs indicate thatted rendition program, the torture programs themselves didn't work and that the c.i.a. was trying to avoided embarrassment. what's your answer to that allegation? >> congress has the power and constitutional authority for oversight. it means they get all the news, the good and the bad and the cia cannot hide from congress interference they don't want them to have. congress needs all the information to render the proper oversight to an agency that should be responsible to company equal branches of government and the executive branch does not have a monopoly over what information they should share with congress. >> you're a veteran of washington and know these are two of some of the most powerful. >> this should be a process by which th

or criminal means. perhaps to include hacking into the c.i.a.'s computer network. >> wait a minute. i heard the word hacking there. >> this is really extraordinary. dianne feinstein, defender in many ways of the c.i.a. and senate committee. where things stand right now, both these accusations that the c.i.a. rooted around in these computers that senate staffers have access to, as well as the counter complaint that the senate staffers got access to the panetta report. they were not supposed to get their hands on. so that is the concern that the c.i.a. has. senator feinstein said that the director of the c.i.a. admitted that the c.i.a. was digging around in the computers. the c.i.a. said because the staffers were touching stuff they were not supposed to. and they did not hack into computers he flatly said we wouldn't do that. he said that the c.i.a. respects separation of powers between legislative branch congress and the executive branch. >> two questions come to mind at this point. what does your gut tell you whether or not we'll get a full-blown investigation of what happened here? what does your gut tell you? >> well, it's so interesting because senator feinste

or not he goes in shirt off on horseback. >> on horseback. amy: turning to home on capitol hill this week, a war of words broke out on the senate floor after senator dianne feinstein accused the c.i.a. of spying on the senate intelligence committee. here's just some of what the chairman of the committee had to say during her nearly 50-minute speech. >> let me say up front that i come to the senate floor reluctantly. since january 15, 2014, when i was informed of the c.i.a.'s search of this committee's network, i have been trying to esolve this dispute in a discreet and respectful way. amy: c.i.a. chief john brennan rejected the statements, saying there could be "nothing further from the truth." now the justice department is investigating the allegations. ed, until this week, senator feinstein had been a very strong ally of the intelligence community. this seemed like a stepping-out of sorts for her. >> it is. amy: waste the story here? >> we have to go all the way back to the bush administration after the 9/11 attacks. remember that the bush administration implemented enhanced interrogation techniques of terrorism suspects. then senator obama was a big critic of this. as president,

or to go. >> just a reminder all of the comments from the c.i.a. director, john brennan, dianne feinstein's comments from the senate floor this morning they are available at c-span.org. here on c-span we'll take you live next to a defense subcommittee hearing of the senate. they are looking at the 2015 proposed budget for special operations command. that's michael wlumpkin, also testifying is the commander, admiral william mcraven. just getting under way live here on crn span. -- c-span. >> with their leadership depleting, al qaeda still retains sanctuaries in remote areas of afghanistan, pakistan, yemen, and somalia. terrorist organizations are also expanding in syria, north africa. the threat continues to evolve. we must maintain our pressure on terrorist organizations to protect the homeland. we are in a time of transition. we face a yet undetermined drawdown in afghanistan and new fiscal realities. it may be more difficult to maintain pressure on al qaeda and their traditional safe havens. i closely monitor how the cuts to the services impact the readiness of u.s. socom. we are assessin

or so. we're going to show you some of senator feinstein's comments next up here on c-span. ions. based on what director brennan has informed us, i have grave concerns that the c.i.a.'s search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the united states constitution, including the speech and debate clause. it may have undermined the constitutional framework essential to effective congressional oversight of intelligence activities or any other government function. i have asked for an apology, and a recognition that this c.i.a. search of computers used by its oversight committee was inappropriate. i have received neither. besides the constitutional implications, the c.i.a. search may also have violated the fourth amendment, the computer fraud and abuse act, as well as executive order 123 3 which 3reub9s the c.i.a. from conducting domestic surveillance. days after meeting with director brennan, the c.i.a. inspector general, david buckley, learned of the c.i.a. search and began an investigation into c.i.a.'s activities. i have been informed that mr. buckley has referred the matter to the department of justice, given the possibility of a cri