he says the headquarters of fema, the federal emergency management association. 86% of fema employees are furloughed, not on the job and many of those on the job are not getting paid. house be republicans point out that they did pass a bill to fund fema over the course of the short term. that of course has been rejected by senate democrats and the white house as a piecemeal approach part of that strategy, this ongoing standoff that is happening in washington and shows absolutely no sign of abating del. the debt issue, everyone concerned about. john boehner is not going to bring it up, contrary to reports, a clean rise to the debt ceiling without, that has the markets spooked and the white house hitting back hard. john boehner saying something controversial, that there aren't enough votes in the house to pass a clean spending bill. creating a heightened sense of concern here among financial markets. it appears there is no end to this standardoff in sight, del. >> we know both sides have been negotiating through media. what is white house's message to republicans, is president obama wil

so craig was just explaining to me here at fema about 86% of the fema work force is furloughed. in response to the potential event that might have happened down in florida and along the coasts, craig called back 200 of those workers. keep in mind calling them back doesn't mean they were getting paid. it means they had the privilege of working without pay to make sure they were doing everything they can to respond to the potential needs of their fellow citizens. now that this particular storm has dissipated, craig is going to have to refurlough at least a hundred of those folks who were called back. so think about that. here you are somebody who is a fema professional, dedicated to doing your job. at a moment's notice you are willing the to show up here in case people got in trouble even though you're not getting paid. now you're put back on furlough because the government is shut down. that is no way of doing business. that, by the way, just speaks to the day-to-day emergencies that may come up. craig said when it comes to training first responders we have on a weekly basis alre

so craig was just explaining to me here at fema, about 86% of the fema workforce is furloughed. in response to the potential event that might have happened down in florida, and along the coast, craig called back 200 of those workers. keep in mind, calling them back doesn't mean they're getting paid. it just means they had the privilege of working without pay to make sure they're doing everything they can to respond to the potential needs of their fellow systems. now that this particular storm has dissipated. craig is going to have to refurlough at least 1 of those folks who were called back. think about that, here you are a fema professional, dedicated to doing your job. at a moment's notice you're willing to show up here in case people got in respond and respond to them, even though you're not getting paid. even though you don't have certainty. and now you're getting put back on furlough because the government is shut down. that's no way of doing business. that, by the way, just speaks to the day-to-day emergencies that may come up and that is fema's job to respond to. craig wa

so craig was just explaining to me here at fema about 86% of the fema workforce was furloughed. in response to the potential event that might have happened in florida and along the coast, craig called back 200 of those workers. keep in mind calling them back doesn't mean they are getting paid. it just means they have the privilege of working without pay to make sure they were doing everything they can to respond to the potential needs of their fellow citizens. now that this particular storm has dissipated craig is going to have to refurlough at least 100 of those folks called back. think about that. here you are somebody a fema professional, dedicated to doing your job. at a moment's notice you're willing to show up here in case people got in trouble and respond to them even though you're not getting paid, even though you don't have certainty. now you're being put back on furlough because the government is shutdown. that's no way of doing business. that pes to the day to day emergencies that may come up and is fema's job to respond to. craig was also explaining the fact that whe

thank his entire team and the incredible workers who are here at fema. they are having to respond to mother nature, which doesn't stop because the government has shut down. i want to get a briefing on what happened to hurricane karen, which became a tropical storm and then dissipated. in the meantime we are on tropical storm watch and the atlantic states, and we have got lizards up north. we have got whether pat -- blizzards up north. we have got whether we are monitoring, but i want to say thank you for the incredible work you are doing. i think it's important to understand the people here at fema have been doing everything they can to respond to events. they work with partners in case resources are needed. fema remains prepared year-round with supplies and distributional centers across the country. their job has been made more difficult. we were prepared for what might have happened in florida. the government is still shut down. services aren't village erupted, and hundreds of thousands of hard-working public servants -- services are being interrupted,

fema turned down our request for an interview. what's the question of fema? >> i don't have a lot of questions for fema, i have some directions for fema. >> reporter: waters says congress will order fema to freeze any rate hikes while it figures out other ways to fill the budget gap. that's good news for may kelleher who can't afford the higher premiums. >> that's probably what i'll have to do is go with our insurance. >> reporter: and what? just pray? >> yes. (laughs). >> reporter: both the house and the senate are expected to introduce plans to address these skyrocketing premiums tomorrow and, scott, here on may kelleher's street in new jersey, and in flood-prone neighborhoods around the country, they'll be watching very carefully. >> pelley: still rebuilding after all these months. jim, thanks very much. was it a protest? mystery surrounds a deadly crash near tiananmen square in china next. but with copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting

so craig was just explaining to me here at fema about 86% of the fema workforce is furloughed. in response to the potential event that might have happened down in florida and along the coasts, craig called back 200 of those workers. keep in mind calling them back doesn't mean that they get paid. it just means they had the privilege of working without pay to make sure that they were doing everything they can to respond to the potential needs of their fellow citizens. now that this particular storm has dissipated greg is going to have to read furlough at least 100 of those folks who were called back. so think about that. he you are somebody who's a theme of professional dedicated to doing your job and at a moments notice you are willing to show up here in case people got in trouble and respond to them even though you were not getting paid and even though you don't have certainty and now you're being put back on furlough because the government is shut down. that's no way of doing business. that by the way just speaks to the day-to-day emergencies that may come up and that its fema

what's the question for fema? >> i don't have a lot of questions for fema. i have directions for fema. >> reporter: waters said it will order fema while it fills the budget gap. that's good news for mae callahar who can't afford the higher premiums. >> that's probably that i'll have to go without insurance. >> reporter: and what, just pray? >> yes. both the house and the senate are expected to introduce plans to fix it on tuesday. here on mae's street new jersey and in flood-prone neighborhoods around the country, they'll be watching very carefully. jim axelrod, cbs news, brick township, new jersey. >>> former congressman jesse jackson jr. has begun serving a 30-month prison sentence. jackson and his wife were found guilty of misuse of campaign funds. jackson reported to a low security prison in north carolina yesterday afternoon. he's expected to serve 20 months of his sentence. >>> and about a third of the abortion clinics in texas that expected to be shut down can resume taking appointments today. a federal judge has ruled that part of the state's abortio

so craig was just explaining to me here at fema -- about 86% of the fema workforce is furloughed. in response to the potential event that might have happened down in florida and along the coasts, craig called back 200 of those workers. keep in mind, calling them back doesn't mean they were getting paid, it just means they had the privilege of working without pay to make sure that they were doing everything they can to respond to the potential needs of their fellow citizens. now that this particular storm has dissipated, craig is going to have to re-furlough at least 100 of those folks who were called back. so think about that. here you are, somebody who's a fema professional dedicated to doing your job; at a moment's notice you're willing to show up here in case people got in trouble and respond to them, even though you're not getting paid, even though you don't have certainty. and now you're being put back on furlough because the government is shut down. that's no way of doing business. that, by the way, just speaks to the day-to-day emergencies that may come up and that is fema'

fema paid for almost all of it. made with synthetic wood and complete with hurricane straps this one is strong enough to with stand another super storm. >> reporter: with its brand new boardwalk and most business owners and residents back on their feet, bellmar, new jersey is in contrast to other shoreline communities slammed by the storm like in staten island new york where people are still struggling to rebuild on a daily basis. still without a finished kitchen one year alert the floodwaters forced a couple to rebuild their staten island home inside and out, the price tag, $160,000. they say they received some relief from their homeowners coverage but not much from flood insurance and less from the government. >> a year later we were told that fema would not help us. >> reporter: that includes help with elevating the home, something that fema requires for flood insurance. that comes at a cost of $10,000 a foot. and that could be another $50,000. >> we plan to elevate, and we were told if you put down ceramic tile

86% of fema workforcethey're aides saying the president could sign on to a bill that funded fema andma workforce back to work, but they're choosing not to. so the back and forth continues. let's bring in our panel. david drucker, charles kraut haur. mora, i think this will go on for some time. >> i think it will unless the market really tanks and that creates pressure on lawmakers. john boehner always wanted to have the fight around the debt ceiling and he's getting his wish. there won't be a clean cr or any kind of cr brought up to the floor of the house. there will be something at the last minute brought up that is it everything at once. the debt creeling is where he always believes he had the most lunch with the president, but it's also where he has the most lem lem leverage with his open members. the question is what kind of face saving members will be put in there so john boehner can say i didn't get nothing and what will be put this there so the president can possibly say i never negotiated on the debt ceiling. >> the interesting thing i heard this morning was gene sperling ask

fema was there just last year. fema was there immediately. we're still in hurricane season, and while we've been very fortunate this year that we have not had a major hurricane land on the continental united stat states, karen was in the gulf, it dissipated. might remind myself, hurricane season runs all the way to november 30 so we're not out of the woods yet. we've just seen a disaster in the upper midwest with an unprecedented fall -- amount of snow falling affecting ranchers, affecting communities. some of our northern states, south dakota, nebraska, colorado and others. we've seen massive flooding and wildfires throughout the west. all of these are disasters that need to be responded to and fema plays a major role in all of that. and who knows? who knows what potential terrorist threats or attacks are out there where we may need to have an immediate response? so what i'm asking here is that we consider funding of fema at its current annual funding rate of $10.2 billion. this bill will extend funding for fema until december 15 but fundi

for fema. we're also anxiously watching the approach of hurricane karen. it's too bd our republican friends didn't think a little bit more about such things on monday at midnight when they shut the government down. the issue, of course, is not whether we want to provide funding for fema or for any other particular activity or particular fwroup of federal employees, i'll take a back seat to no one when it comes to supporting the men and women who serve on the frontlines of our national disaster preparedness and response effort and we know they will be there. whatever hurricane karen amounts to. the issue is here -- the issue here is whether we're fwoning to pick winners and losers by providing temporary funding for governmental services, operations, and personnel, when everyone in this body knows that we can reopen the entire federal government in one fell swoop this afternoon by calling up the senate continuing resolution. that's what democrats and a growing number of republicans are advocating

that is fema's job to respond to. craig was talking about the fact that when it comes to training first responders, we had on a weekly basis, the scheduled first responders that will have to be rescheduled. it will cost the government more money for us to put the things back together again. not only is the shutdown hurting fema workers and making it more difficult to respond, it may cost taxpayers more than it should. right now, congress should do what's in the best interest of the economy and the american people. that's move beyond this manufactured crisis and work together to focus on growth, jobs, and providing the vital services that americans all across the country depend on, including the services that fema provides. i heard a lot of talk over the weekend the real problem is the president will not negotiate. i have said from the start of the year that i'm happy to talk to republicans about anything related to the budget. there's not a subject i'm not willing to engage in, work on, negotiate, and come up with a c

this has nothing to do with fema. >> i have a really big bone to pick from fema.has done some very good things. chris christie has certainly stepped up to the plate. the houses and community faith-based organizations that have been excluded in very large measure from getting any kind of fema help, they can get it from the sba or others, it's far less. saint rose in belmar, the building itself is a community action oriented building where they help the poor and homeless, all kinds of great work. they have been told you're not going to get it. the upper floors not affected by sandy are used by other things. that's a discriminatory policy. >> this past the hour, blocked in the senate. >> nonprofit disaster assistance passed 354-72, absolutely bipartisan, liberal, mod ral, conservative, everybody joining in and saying it's discriminatory. >> does not violate church and state. >> sba would be equally violative of separation of church and state. you know, when you have a hurricane or natural disaster or home mid one like oklahoma city. in oklahoma city churches were rep

something fema requires to meet new flood insurance standards. cost of up to $10,000 a foot. for the a ma gloves that could many another 50 grand, but they don't know exactly how tie ohio to go in fema finalized the flood maps. >> we plan to elevate and we were told that if you put down ceramic tile and hang cabinets, that there is a chance that, you know, we'll be taking a chance on breaking everything. so we have basically been on hold waiting for flood maps, waiting to get in touch with the architect. it's probably easier for us to walk away at this point. >> reporter: instead, they are in it for the long haul, though some are already long gone. >> besides two abandoned houses on this side, i have the house directly next door for sale. the house next to it. they are getting ready to demo the house. so the entire neighborhood has changed. >> reporter: businesses were forced to pull out too. at least for a little while. like rainbow bridge productions and morrisey contracting. two christian-based companies run by minister joseph morrisey. >> we

i was toll by fema they're not a going to help me. build a back is not going to help me but i can take an sba loan, they'll take a lean on my house for 14 years. god forbid i get hit with another storm. they get the insurance money first. so where is middle class america getting help? this storm did not pick its victims. but the politicians should not be picking us. and the only politician that has really helped is brimson fighting day and night -- >> congressman -- >> yes, congressman grimms. the president ran on the tick to help middle class. he is not helping the middle class. the middle class is stuck, and i just don't know what he is going to do. got three more years left of him and i wish he was gone tomorrow and out of office because he has lied. too many promises. >> we're showing your home, which is still discheffed and not even remotely near abilitiable. i'm curious in your case, diane narks where are you living now and what's your story? >> well, it was not just me. it was business that we opened that got 100% affected ask

today they are focused on fema and the national weather service. and then they will be in at work tomorrow morning voting on getting those furloughed government workers back pay. they passed the house, but they won't go anywhere in the senate. the other body said we're looking at the whole budget picture. we heard today from house speaker john boehner. house republicans have been doing a series of public relations moves here on capitol hill, he has not been there. well this morning we heard from him and he's sticking to the republican perspective. >> this isn't some damn game! the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. all we're asking for is to sit down and to have a discussion and bring fairness -- reopen the government and bring fairness to the american people under obamacare. it's as simple as that. >> that is speaker boehner. well we're still hearing the same differing perspectives from senate democrats. harry reid spoke this morning, and he recalled yesterday's dramatic events when capitol police rushed to a s

in new jersey alone, more than 261,000 people contacted fema for help and information. over 126,000 homes have been inspected. and while these numbers show the progress that we've made, the reality is that still for thousands of people in new jersey, recovery is an around-the-clock, 24/7 effort. many new jersey families have now been hit with a -- what i call a triple whammy -- having been flooded by sandy and lost in some cases a lifetime of wo work, then facing repair and mitigation costs, and now facing astronomical increases in flood insurance costs built into a flood reform bill that was passed before sandy hit. even as we slowly recover from the worst natural disaster in our state's history, a manmade disaster is looming in the distance, jeopardizing our recovery. the combination of updated flood maps and the phaseout of premium subsidies for the national flood insurance program threatens to force victims out of their homes and destroy entire communities. many homeowners will be forced to pay premiums that are several times higher than the current rate they pay. t

fema has failed to complete the study required under the law. additionally, it remains a huge concern that fema does not have the data it needs to accurately determine risk under this new policy regime. and is incapable of creating a new mapping system that truly reflects true actuarial rates. while 80% of policy holders will not see increases as a result of the new policy, a small portion of properties are being hit with staggering increases. this is a serious concern for communities and individuals across the country, including many from the fifth district of pennsylvania which i'm proud to represent. i joined yesterday with colleagues on both sides of the aisle as an original co-sponsor of the homeowners flood insurance affordability act. legislation to delay for two years the high rates brought on by the 2012 law until there is an affordability study completed by fema. the bill also makes structural changes to fema to assure there is an advocate for homeowners when flood maps are drawn or adjusted. mr. speaker, improving the financial liabil

roughly 86% of fema work force is furloughed. even the workers called back to respond to tropical storm karen will be furloughed again now that the storm has passed. president obama urging congress today to reopen the government and he openly dared house speaker john boehner to call an immediate vote on a funding bill with no strings attached. >> the house should hold that vote today. if republicans and speaker boehner saying there aren't enough votes they should prove it. let the bill go to the floor and see what happens. >> a few minutes later john boehner did speak on the house floor, he accused president obama of refusing to negotiate on a bill to reopen the government, or the debt ceiling. >> more than 300,000 civilian employees of the defense department are back on the job. defense department lawyers determined those workers are exempt from the furlough because their work is covered by the military pay act that was signed by the president just before the shurtdown. >> for that same reason lockheed martin did not have to fur

fema was not there to help you the entire way. you are supposed to help yourself with their help. >> school helped some kids cope. my friends gave me supplies if i needed. >> so you liked going to school. >> others felt less safe at school sips a couple of classmates were insensitive. >> they were in front of me, yelling at me. >> i was like i don't have a home to go home and wash my clothes. >> for those forced out of their homes, homework was harder. >> we run a hotel with five people. i guess it was hard to study. >> now, a year later... >> we are back in our house, and just looking out for each other. >> we are all alive and we have food to eat. nothing else really matters. >> as grown up as the perspective seems, they are kids who found mun -- fun along the way. >> when we cleaned up we didn't realise how powerful the power washers was. >> a few found a silver lining. >> i was imagining it would be like christmas. >> they are the perfect example of how resilient kids can be. there's no doubt the storm affected them all. now,

one of the two miniature spending bills in the house today is for fema and disaster aid. in washington craig boswell fox news." how's this for irony.... while the government is shut down, guards at federal prisons aren't getting paid,.../ but the prisoners who work inside the walls... are. at federal corrections facilities like this one in oxford, wisconsin...corr ections officers paychecks are on hold, until the government payroll is back up and running. but because inmates selected to perform services get paid through the state bureau of prisons, those inmates are still receiving their checks. union officials hope this latest shutdown doesn't approach the length of the 1995 government shutdown that dragged on for 21 days. police... in oregon... release... dashcam footage... of a traffic stop... in august.../ that... went ...terribly wrong..../ take a look... at what happened... when a troope

apparently, he's talking to the fema employees working on tropical storm karen.nking those employees. they called it kerry back to the white house. we'll be able to put that on the air. as of right now, they only has the traveling press pool with him. that is what the president is going to be talking about, not only fema but the government shutdown and how congress should pass a continuing resolution to get the government back open again. he's also going to be talking about this debt ceiling increase. you heard house republicans and this white house going back and forth over the last 24 hours over that. house speaker john boehner saying that they don't essentially have the votes for a clean debt ceiling increase. white house saying calling back and saying that's not the case. if they hold a vote up or down, they can get the government up and running again and get an extension to the debt ceiling. so the president talking about some of those issues over at fema this morning -- or this afternoon, right now. we should get those comments in just a few moments. within

fema has activated its national response coordination center in washington, and fema is an close contact with officials in effect -- and affected areas. has deployed liaisons to emergency operations centers in alabama, florida, louisiana, and mississippi. today, fema is deploying three additional management teams, recalled from furlough to potentially affected areas to assist with the coordination of planning and response operations. at all times, fema maintains commodities, including millions of liters of water, millions of and hundreds of thousands of old blankets and said critically located at distribution centers throughout the united states that are available to state and local partners if needed and respect -- and requested. fema has recalled staff from furlough to activate out of atlanta, georgia. second, later this afternoon, the president will be briefed on shutdown impacts by alyssa messer marco, deputy chief of staff. ofvia burwell, the director office of management and budget, and other senior staff. among the issues discussed will be the effects of the furloughs at the depar

((take sot)) to open fema and the national weather service as we witness a growing storm in the gulf. and we're going to also vote to provide nutrition services for women and children in poverty.> ((take sot)) as this standoff continues, the deadline to the october 17th debt ceiling approaches, with many fearing a similar result to that fight. meanwhile, bethesda based defense contractor lockheed-martin announced they will be forced to furlough three thousand workers on monday, if an agreement isn't reached. and... with a pending storm,... they... may... soon feel it even more..../ while... the national weather service... continues to operate,.../ hundreds... of... employees... have been furloughed... and... some... federal resources... that provide information... about... hazardous weather ...are down---/ making it difficult... for vital information... to reach you and me. ((sot- amy fritz national weather

fema paid for almost all of it.ths later, it was in place, made of synthetic wood, complete with hurricane straps, this one is strong enough to withstand another super storm. >> with a brand new boardwalk and most business owners back, it is a contrast to other shoreline communities slammed by the storm. like in stanton island, new york, where people are still struggling to rebuild. >> that's where i keep it, right in the box. >> still without a finished kitchen, the floodwaters forced them to rebuild their home inside and out. the price tag, nearly $160,000. they say they received some relief from their homeowners college, but not much from flood insurance and less from the government. >> a year later, we're told fema is not going to help us. >> that includes elevating their home to meet new flood insurance standards. that comes at a cost at up to $10,000 a foot, and could mean another $50,000. they won't know how high to go until flood maps are finished. >> we were told if you put down ceramic tile and hang cabine

. >> furl yesterday fema workers being asked to prepare for tropical storm karen. a hurricane watch is in effect. karen threatening to be the first named tropical storm to strike this year. mississippi governor declared a state of emergency. louisiana governor has done the same. fema says they should be ready to provide relief if needed. >> things here are calm. >> yes. thank goodness. >> yes that. is why we live here in the bay area. as we look at the picture just behind me, it's stunning out here, there this is a live look towards the bay. sunny skies. the breeze starting to kick up here on the roof. it's a wind direction that really is important here. we'll talk about that. clear skies right now check out the humidity. novato down to 14%. you can see an ocean of blue. 66 in san francisco. 69 oakland. san jose, 70 degrees. you can see one area of concern, hill tops. 72346 santa rosa. and temperatures, highs so far today upper 50s to upper 70s. nothing but blues blu skies and high fire danger looking at warmer weather tomorrow and saturday, trust me you're going t

and right now, 86% of the full-time employees at fema are furloughed.ast that was the case until this afternoon when the states of emergency started getting declared and tropical storm karen started flooding parts of south florida and the federal government was able to now recall to work the fema employees who will help prepare and deliver the expert federal response that is needed to deal with this big oncoming storm. and that's kind of the story of how we're piecemealing it together right now, to try to avoid disaster. we're hoping we can keep up the staffing levels for the police that protect the u.s. capitol building in the event that somebody tries to ram their car through the gates. we're hoping those staffing levels can keep up, even after we stop paying those officers. we're hoping that the disasters that hit, the natural disasters, are big enough and predictable enough, ones you can see coming from a long way off on the satellites, whose information we are still monitoring, so we can get fema back to work in time before anything else starts flo

karen that is speced to hit the gulf coast this weekend. 86% of fema staff was furloughed.word on how many people were brought backtracking the back, tracking the storm and you've been watching this. itth spa gety models are -- spaghetti models are concentrated. >> we use that term because they look like strings. we have the models on and when they are tightly packed they are in agreement and we can see what's going on as it comes towards us. models tightly packed so we are in good agreement we will get in the moisture from karen. now this will be making landfall sometime on saturday along the gulf coast here. from there it will track inland move up toward the northeast and head towards us by the beginning of next week. so much need moisture is on the way. but not today. we will stay dry and we can see maryland's most powerful radar. not putting down anything as the kid head out to the bus. there are more concerns with the foggy conditions this morning. but in terms of temperatures, well, we are nice and mild. look at that. 68 degrees as they head out to the bus stop. 85 he

fema is calling in previously furloughed employees. of course the military is busy.he nearby harbor field has been conducting an air evacuation. the military has been flying planes at a pensacola and moving into air force bases in arkansas and in mexico to protect them against farm damage. however, there are no mandatory evacuations for personnel or families at this time since terry is not expected to make landfall as a strong hurricane. local officials are urging visitors and residents to take the storm seriously because even relatively weaker tropical storms have been known to inflect extensive damage and personal injury here in the sunshine state. we are not seeing a lot of homes and businesses boarding up windows, but when we went to a local supermarket we saw people stocking up on bottled water and battery power flashlights. lou: thank you. sorry. the national hurricane center at this hour is saying that winds are holding at 50 miles-per-hour, down from 65 miles-per-hour. the storm is expected to strengthen someone overnight, but remain a tropical storm. the lat

neil: so fema does nothing?ery program that i have come across the idea sounds good and mbb the intentions are good but the way it is a disturbing is a nightmare. neil: how would you do it differently? >> i would help the people that are hurt. that is what we need. neil: what do you need? >> i need rental assistance i cannot continue paying a mortgage and paying rent. fema to cut me off in february because apparently i am rich. i did not know that. neil: so all of these we have countless others they have not seen anything? where does that money go? >> absolutely we ask that every day. the public perception is of course, you get help. there raised so much money it did not go to individuals and organizations who have programs and in and of those programs benefited me. the salvation army will give free furniture that's great title have a house. i will give you a mattress. i don't have a house. neil: where are you? >> with the parents and my old bedroom. neil: thank you very much. >> king in their. it sounds like em

this morning, fema reactivated the hurricane liaison team embedded with the national hurricane center in miami. the president directed his team to ensure that federal resources and personnel needed to support state and local preparation efforts are available and on the job. the president directed his team to keep him appraised as to weather conditions change. he urged residents in potentially affected areas to follow instructs of local response and law enforcement officials. julie? >> thank you. there's been a lot of focus over the last day or two on the debt ceiling both in the presidential remarks, the treasury phone call today. is that a sign that the white house now sees this government shut down lasting to a point where it runs into the debt ceiling and that becomes one big fiscal fight? >> it's a sign that we are very concerned about the possibility that republicans in the house will employ the same unfortunate tactics when it comes to their fundamental responsibility to raise the debt ceiling and make sure the united states doesn't default, as they have employed in shutting dow

they are protesting by directing their anger at fema, the anger that the spokesperson said is misdirected. >> i have found very little leeway as much as i have tried, on how to find affordability as enacted. >> reporter: they fear the law will turn them into ghost towns. >>> after 13 years at the top, coca-cola is no longer considered the most valuable brand in the world, that is according to an annual study by the marketing firm interbrand which ranks companies based on brand value. here is the list, microsoft, number four, ibm, coca-cola slipped to third, google with a brand value of $93.3, and the new king, apple, valued at $98.3 billion, i think i might have gone for google, because it is the only one there where you can say i'm going to google that. it is is a verb. >> really, i counted the number of apple products we have in the house, all the textbooks are on apple. i guess they deserve it. anyway, thank you for watching, i'm sue herera, susie is back tomorrow. >> and i'm tyler mathisen, have a great everything, everybody, and we'll see you back here on october first. >>> nightly b

louisiana has already declared a state of emergency -- this storm poses a big challenge for fema. many workers were furloughed due to the government shut down and now being called back into work in anticipation of this storm and president obama has already been briefed about the threat of this storm and he's instructed his team to make sure the staffing is there and the researchers and make sure everyone is okay. pam, back to you. >> what are you hearing from meteorologists? are they comparing it to some of the other storms they know as to what the intensity might be when it does hit land? >> reporter: not yet. they are saying this storm is hard to pin down what it is likely to do. it could weaken as it approaches the gulf coast or it could pick up steam. right now they are warning against regardless if tropical storm karen becomes hurricane category one storm karen, regardless if it makes that the results and the threat is in the rain and not the wind. and that is because they are predicting this to be a big rain event. they are telling residents to brace for that flooding. back

but when they went to collect their claim with the national flood insurance program that was run by fema they were flat denied. the policy doesn't provide for earth movement even though the earth movement was caused by flood. >> it made no sense, when you can have flood policy even caused by flood. it's like having car insurance and they don't cover anything below the windows even if you're in a car accident. >> keep in mind after sandy new flood insurance policies also require residents like the sasses to raise their home. >> you can't add concrete block below a foundation that is not sound. >> public adjustor dave charles says the sass family is one of thousands of sandy survivors that fell victim to loophole that was designed to provide sinkhole coverage. >>> the problem is that this policy was written by congress. so it would literally take an act of congress to change the language to help storm victims that is, unless a high ranking state leader stepped in like governor quomo did. >> to take care of this heinous earth movement seclusion saved thousands of people. >> there could be t