i'm erin levy, preparedness in fema which mns i have the best job in the agency. fema's mission helping people before, during after disaster is one of the nobelist government, for us when we think about helps households in the aftermath of the disaster a couple of things come to mind. first off is our individual assistance program run by our friends in the office of response andecovery which in the case that should the president declare a major disaster, fema has the ability, i want everyoneo listen carefully in the room andt home, to help folksith their immediate needs and unsured needs. that's key. the who concept of the stafford act, the's assumption out there that the prite sector specifically private insurers is taking on a majority the risk and what we've realized is and what the assistt secretary talked about and what andw talked about is a lot of americans who areot gettin the assistance that they need and that is not a knock on my colleagues or our previous colleagues that came before us. i can tell you that every fema employee when they go to the field w

when our last fema -- let me sit two things. -- say two things. fema uses a hydrologic model.ma has used our model, improved our model, and improved the model and now we are utilizing the same model again. we have the same benefit of all of us utilizing the same model for existing planning and future conditions planning. the last time we had a map update -- sen. whitehouse: let me interject for a second. you take things like climate change and sea level rise and storm severity into account? dr. jurado: yes sir. in our current modeling effort, we are evaluating two to three foot rises in areas, curing them out to 2070. we are cap for the change in groundwater table, we account for the high tide condition under each of those sea level rise scenarios. we account for various storm surge conditions, including 25, 50, one hundred here storm surge and couple that with a variety of design storm events. 10, 20 5, 50, 100 year rainfall conditions and look at the count -- look at the compound flooding under each of the scenarios. we are using that for the basis for our managing and strat

fema's elevations.is fun but to require the highest of all of our tools to be used for planning and we have the future conditions flood map the integrates motherboard -- what i'd just described is one of those tools but so many areas the county were not relying on the fema flood myth of the femaon flood is most impressive for its been incorporating the coastal a some and the distinction there was that we account for sealevel rise that hadn't accounted for storm surge. fema was accounting for storm surge but not sealevel rise and that's why the current modeling effort is so critical that we be very thing together. >> sounds like the party apart has been a significant improvement over fema alone. >> improving the model with time and everyone jointly utilizing the same model. integrating future conditions because we have two accounts for tomorrow and not just today for infrastructure that is their perspective. >> do you think the flood insurance program requirements that you built back in place needs adjus

the governor requested the declaration which was granted by the biden administration and 48 hours femawas on the ground something search and rescue. several investigations getting to the bottom of this disaster. ... and i look forward to hearing from our witnesses but i am concerned this hearing is shifting attention in resources away from ongoing relief effort on maui and the official investigations that are still in the early stages. congress should focus on ensuring the federal government can continue providing relief to the people of maui. that means funding the government and funding fema's disaster relief fund which the president has asked it to do. that is something specific that we and only we can't and should do without delay. the reckless government showdown over shutdown i i should say h we know is imminent with slow maoris ability to rebuild and recover. and after all this disaster is that over. thousands are displaced and in desperate need of housing. firefighters are still working and utility crews are working to restore power and repair damaged infrastructure. i'm hopefu

i understand that over 27 federal partners including fema, apa, u.s. army and small business administration or helping the people of maui get back on their feet. i appreciate the hands-on approach of representatives and senators and how they are supporting and advocating for their neighbors. top of mind for the congress at this moment of a threatened government shutdown must be to ensure that the recovery work continues uninterrupted for the people of maui. today i hope we can learn more about the conditions that caused the fire and what else congress can do for the island. there are things that we do know already. i know that strong winds from a nearby hurricane combined with drought conditions and dry vegetation led to advanced warnings of fire on maui. we know that the fire started on the edge of town in lahaina on maui's west coast and quickly grew out of control, ultimately devastating the town and claiming the lives of too many neighbors. fire crews were dealing with it , another fire miles away. we know people there are still suffering the losse

también puede bajar la aplicación de fema, en donde podrá suscribirse a los sistemas de alerta en sunorte también tenemos incendios, inundaciones al sur y en el centro del país. muy importante estar preparados para esto. >> claudia ya prácticamente esa esa mancha se va extendiendo conforme avanzan los efectos del cambio climático. flavio y qué importante que incluyamos incluso a las mascotas que a veces digo por más que los queremos, se nos olvida que por ellos también hay que tener ciertos cuidados, ciertas especificaciones. así es, enseguida más no le vaya a cambiar. a las 05:30 le vamos a contar de entidades sanitarias del condado de santa clara que están reportando el aumento en las enfermedades respiratorias. le diremos que piden a los residentes para minimizar los contagios. >> además, con tan solo 13 años edad, una jovencita se unió a un grupo de mujeres para encontrar a su hermano desaparecido. le contamos en breve con esto y más. regresamos tras la pausa comercial. sigue con nosotros. le dejamos esta imagen en vivo del puente golden gate giving tuesday es un movimiento globa

wade whitmer, deputy director of ipos fema, thanks for joining us.cott, who is with us virtually from the office of the national cyber director. he is the assistant national cyber director for cyber policy and program. chris otway. welcome, associate general counsel with verizon, sean latona, section chief at cybersecurity division at cisa , stephen hayes, director of standards at erickson north america. thank you. kenneth chew, unit chief cyber division at the fbi and last but not least, scott deutschman, senior policy advisor, government affairs and public policy at google. thank you all for joining us and we look forward to the discussion this morning. michael, i'll turn back over to you. >> thanks, deb. so for the first question, we will direct the said brian scott, who i believe is virtual -- can you provide insight into how this will play out? >> thank you for having me. ransomware, again continues to be an ongoing threat for all sectors. a few other things. software supply, malware, what occurred during the 2020 attack where russia orchestrate

for cyber security and alerting will be moderated michael george, administrator for continuity at fema and our own deb jordan. >> thank you, suzon. i'm going to turn to michael george first, who is the associate administrator for the office of continuity at fema. michael, over to you. >> well, thank you, deb. and thank you to the fcc and cisa for convening and hosting today's round table discussion and a sincere thank you for the chairwoman not only for framing the importance of today's discussion, but also her thoughtful comments on why this is important, not just that we are partnered together, but that how it's relied upon across the country by alerting authorities and to help the public in times of emergency. so, an important discussion. i specifically want to thank deb jordan and our cisa partners, thank you, and the fcc and cisa have been tremendous partners and i appreciate the opportunity on this important topic, particularly as we close out cyber security awareness month. some of you may be aware of comments made earlier this year by the cisa director, and recently by the admi

wade witmer, deputy director of ipaws fema, thanks for joining us. brian scott who is with those virtually from the offices of the national cyber director. use assistant national cyber director to cyber policy and program. chris otway, welcome. associate general counsel with verizon. sean letona cost , section t cybersecurity division atf cis. stephen hayes, director of standards at ericsson north america. thank you. kenneth chu, unit chief cyber division atke the fbi. and last but a not least scott deutschman, senior policy advisor government affairs and public policy at google. thank you all for joining us and we look forward to the discussion this morning. michael, i'll turn back over to. >> thanks, deb. so for the first question we were directed this at brian scott who i believe is virtual on-screen and nick noreen. brian escott i see both up there on the screen as well as to sean. so can you provide insights into the biggest cybersecurity threats to the communication sector and how these attacks might be carried out? >> sure. and thanks, thanks

israel issued strong condemnation of to around event method but some us around backs come us versus the fema who is i think that 90 percent of how massive military budget comes from around us. but i mean the funds you me, it organizes and it leads me trains of and vision, but there is no harm asked with that this support system because just like there is no has but we tied around and come up the most anxious bala leaves on israel and iran actually had close ties up until the arabian revolution in 1979. after that, supreme lead to i, a total of for may need declared is read an enemy of the newly formed atlantic republic. just by facilities and periods of relative calm followed the year 2000 and brought a change when the run back to militia hezbollah, to control and saw them live in on riots on israel's border since then israel and has the law have had regular classes, has the law as long as it runs proxy militant groups in the region through these groups, the stomach republic has form and what it calls a ring of fire around israel has the law in lebanon on israel's northern border. she embell

judy: but criticism of fema persists.she jumped through many hoops with the agency, only to be denied housing assistance. she also complained about a lack of communication and under-qualified staff. >> i accept that criticism because we want to make sure that nobody comes out of a disaster feeling that way. i don't listen for good news. i'm listening for the areas where we may not get a do-over, but we can do do-better. judy: and gillums agrees with activist justice shorter that improving conditions for those with disabilities requires their input, and that authorities take them seriously. >> people with disabilities are still not meaningfully included in every phase of disaster management and planning. we are pushed to the side as a kind consideration. so, we are doing you a favor by listening to you, disability community, and we need you to spend extensive amount of time, labor telling us all of the things that we need to do, and then we'll go back and decide whether or not and how we go about doing that. and i'm saying

and i will say this the best one i can commit to any focus on in fema able to present a lesson. okay. yeah, let me get on the list. i'm gonna begin. look at em, us or you know police, i lease the saddle all sort of model corners to forget he's coming to the need us to meet on sunday. and the other monday night is when i read them and instead of the one the form of the month, the i'm in dental to buy this like i'm a getting all getting, i mean for the event the bus will be model. guess the for them i v that have been side all of a little here and the driver for you to see if somebody can be shown up or personally bland. my, let's see on this one and this one is at the bottom and i've seen them this one in front of the insured. and i guess a hand at a video because he's vincent the but i said to be the elephant that it says i've on . so long either several, you'll associate has or not the back of the u. k himself, or get a totally up you name a me and associated us on the left. and we need to see if we're going to use, i get, get you standing on the, on the left are really supplem

about one ain't $8 million and these are mostly going to be reimbursed and the department submitted fema requests and the department is funding these costs and for the stern grove emergency work that is being under taken. that's under way and under taken by i contractor professional tree care company and the department is working with another firm architecture resources group conservation services to develop a scope of work to repair the club house. we have several recommendations related to these resolutions. we do know as a policy consideration that the resolutions did not comply with the timelines required under our code section 6.60 to notify the board with the emergencies and introduce the resolutions within 60 day and i want zoom out a little bit and what it means when you're approving a emergency declaration. you're essentially waiving all of chapter 6 for work related to that emergency declaration and all chapter it is 12a, b, c and 14b. and you know we have typically -- i can speak for myself. our office has always understood the not to exceed amounts in the resolution are a bin

[fema alarm blaring] [laughter] sen. cruz: as i was saying. [fema alarm blaring] [laughter] sen. cruz: with great trepidation, i observe that just about every advanced weapons system in our military rely on semiconductors and most of them are not made in the united states. recognizing this, there was a fleury of legislative activity to onshore and nearshore semiconductor manufacturing last congress. culminating in the chips and science act. parts of this law, like the fabs act, which i co-sponsored and enthusiastically supported, provided tax credits to incentivize chip investments in the united states. the final bill, however, also included a whopping $52 billion in direct subsidies from taxpayers that in my view would predictably lead to government bureaucrats picking winners and losers. at worst, this kind of industrial policy can be rief with political interference and waste and even at best it is often done poorly and inefficiently. that's why i ultimately voted against the by, despite it -- bill, despite it containing a number of things i strongly support. we're already see

did you ever think the job isn't suitable for you just because there aren't enough fema role models in that position? this is a common theme in the tech industry. we're only 5 percent of all c o's of female. to this say women on encourage to succeed in certain areas, especially at a young age. that was the case pop. i mean, actually order from argentina. her father didn't want her to be involved with computers as a child. it's not something for girls he would say. but she did it anyway. i'm, unless you are is where she always wanted to be working in tech. her father and visit her as an accountant for the family business. but h to 9, pamela found some old computer magazines that our father kept and began to study them. show this. yeah. you went ok. they are using to say, how wonderful it is to create with these computers. you said what my child's mind understood. and those assume but, and i would say i want to do this move up, i see you when. so i always read the magazines and my dad noticed this, the sound of everything he said to me and said, daughter, these magazines are not for you

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the medical center that has been a focal point on staff authoration that states from me and the news fema of an update for you at the top of the adobe. as a whole documentary series that's coming up next. the news 3 is the most powerful woman, little sister of the dictates, a mysterious strategic who is, can you tell me? you can say she represents a mixture of expectations and disappointment. the thing is the that gets into the ridge princess stuff, november 25th on dw.

the fema who's i think that 90 percent of how massive military budget comes from around us. but i mean the funds, it organizes and it leads to trains and vision. but there is no harm asked with that this support system because just like there is no has but we tied around and come on most infeasible, i believe on israel and around actually had close ties until the a rainy and revolution in 1979. after that, supreme leader, i a told her for me in a declared israel, an enemy of the newly formed islamic republic. despite hostilities, a period of relative calm followed the year, 2000 abroad, a change, wendy, around, back to melisha, has bought a, took control in southern lebanon. right on israel as border since then israel and has bought a. i've had regular classes, has been a, is one of the rand proxy militant groups in the region through these groups. the islamic republic has formed what is called a ring of fire around israel has bought a 11 on these rails northern border. she embellishes in syria and the who these in yemen to the sides blooming large ar, around to attempts to

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are deli bureau chief, i'm rated, fema told us more about the emotional scenes when rescuers were finally able to reach them and to hi, i'm absolutely very emotionally. was fees of joy and jubilation as a was talking to coming out $1.00 by one. the nation was one age for the last 17 days watching and waiting to see. these look has come out and the finding the happened last night. we did it. they go on the lee, but from far off space india and this cavities would, would be the nation is really getting a bob or the rescue workers who was denied for 17 days to get these men out while you're a senior, the rest of the effort took 17 days give us a sense of exactly of what type of efforts were necessary to help keep these workers alive. you know, and the miscue operates used to be on within, initially towards these look as were coming off the shift early morning sheets on the day of the body, which is indian lodge, especially on the 12th of november when the case of the time in washing the collapse now be tried very hard to get to these people to various means they use, but it can printing hori

the problem first of all fema has been great. fema has been extraordinary. and we put some money into the derf to allow them to operate and provide resources. the problem that we have right now is timing. the burn zone is still not cleared. the epa is doing good work with the army corps and others. it is going to be a year and a half total before those properties are even rebuild the ball and even in accelerated timeframe that means two or maybe three or four or five years before these unit are back up online and that depends on individual property owners making choices that benefit some of the rental unit population. so a lot of people will be forced to leave maui and that is just a fact. should the federal government help disaster survivors stay in their communities? >> senator i believe that the answer is yes. that we should -- strive to do everything possible to rebuild, restore, and reprove -- approved resiliency of a community. the challenge and now he has been quite unique because of its situation as you well know. better than do i as an island and so

it would include getting some sort of pay-for like we were trying to get for the fema spending we were -- we had already incurd. we're going to leave israel isolate and move this forward as it is, you can't add the farm bill and you need to put put something on there to make it worth some of us eating poll swis don't want to eat this continues to have funding for the united nations. continues to have funding for umwra. we are funding that. we're funding that as we speak. we're continuing to fund poll swirs strongly opposed to. why would we do that? yes, i can eat dozens of things i don't like. but you've got to give me something to get behind. an extension of the farm bill with food stamps in it. without address chieg these ownership of land on top of $1. trillion of spending continuing? somebody -- you've got to, tell me how i sell that to constituents in texas who said they want something to change while our boarders are wide open. i'll keep giving alejandro mayorkas to do what just happened when two texans died in a head-on collision by someone who was here illegally, carrying peopl

about one ain't $8 million and these are mostly going to be reimbursed and the department submitted fema requests and the department is funding these costs and for the stern grove emergency work that is being under taken. that's under way and under taken by i contractor professional tree care company and the department is working with another firm architecture resources group conservation services to develop a scope of work to repair the club house. we have several recommendations related to these resolutions. we do know as a policy consideration that the resolutions did not comply with the timelines required under our code section 6.60 to notify the board with the emergencies and introduce the resolutions within 60 day and i want zoom out a little bit and what it means when you're approving a emergency declaration. you're essentially waiving all of chapter 6 for work related to that emergency declaration and all chapter it is 12a, b, c and 14b. and you know we have typically -- i can speak for myself. our office has always understood the not to exceed amounts in the resolution are a bin

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is exciting because it is a opportunity to leverage two objectives, one off-sore wind and second is fema and emergency preparedness. pier 96 is designate as emergency response site so there is a opportunity to emprove this land for both uses and leverage multiple funding streams. eventually expanded wharf would be the largest asset here so expanding from 50 feet of width to 150. creating about a 5 acre area with very high capacity soil and lots of new piers or piles to support heavy lift cranes and big components coming on and off vessels. and potentially the large upland area up to 90 acres doing soil strengthening as well for the machinery and fabrication that might happen there as well as providing updated utilities and improved drainage. that was the conceptual work moffit nicole prepared. leading into this larger concept of how this could be used for the industry. the rendering here shows how it could be used. this isn't work the port of san francisco is proposing that we undertake. the work we have is everything below grade. creating the site for a operating partner to come and cre

fema announced there is no room for human error. additionally, handling aid numbers without any guidelines or test practices create significant liability for arizona's ngo's. i have requested fema, and said they must, include a 3% to 5% allowance for margin of error aid numbers. fema must also guide aid agencies and how to handle this information. is this something dhs can administer admission readably, and if so, will you commit to working with me to support the ngo network and protect confidentiality in providing services? sec. mayorkas: i do commit to continuing to work with you on this issue. there is a tension here. you correctly identified the potential for human error and how we need to accommodate for that. on the other hand, what we do not want to do is distribute funds to an organization for the processing of an individual who has evaded law enforcement and not been processed and put into immigration enforcement proceedings. we will work with you, and you have my commitment. sen. sinema: thank you care this question is for

new gums in bucklin with the fema been. and how does like we have accomplished what we had and then why the school cross ain't enough. what i'm see if the customer and we have the upper hand, there's an old battery school coming to everywhere such as i have 2 trust locations from us. we still have the physical issues. today we have discovery. we have revealed the basie a basis of how laws i'm going to get on. i'm just, i'm seems to hold the theme of this williams. they use patients and doctors as a human, she'd for the activities. then i'm, she's left surface. very low, low may not click ok. yeah. so she does. we have, do you sound destroyed this method yet? shit. you certainly will be leaving that get them came in and they tried to i'm a student loans rocket seconds or what bank. some of the a visual cub on the guy was almost 3 months to the metal piece in this space must been cooled off. my thoughts and the notifications butler is trying his best bill shipper, which is a terrorist organization in the south of libya and th

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yeah, ms boss history is not telling what has happened from each year uh tells its history on its own fema disease and goes by what the euro happens to be preoccupied across the shaft. yep. points we project outlines social discussions and views onto past coaches. i'll click on the new queen to one escaped him at that home. the lights, it's always about why people into hacker defense as the end of the world and how they put $1.00 and $1.00 together. and say something is brewing here and here published in that sense as was especially imbedded, active interpretation, i saw a narrative and it says, i put simply every vehicle because produced its own teams. they say, it was often the criticism of contemporary events which used history as a means to an end. to decadence theory, for instance, has been taking shape since the 18th century. deposits that ancient cultures like the roman empire perished due to corruption. the move decay at least a decade and as a result the, the original rate is about people as being dragged into the markets uncomfortable, you know, they've got now we have to fight a

our next character is kathy sullivan, the thd fema american astronaut to go to space. she's written several books and i know had also a contractual reason to not be interviewed personally. but she's talked about her expeences. she i probably know her her best of of sex. i think a lot of us do because she's had a lon illustrious careern not only nasa management, but noah management as an oceanogpher, a geographer and she just really as a geologist also has focus on a lot more broad than just space travel, going to the trenches of the ocean and so forth. right, hubble space telescope to two missions play by play large in her nasa astronaut career. but interestingly, there is less written about her personal life and i'm just i'll be interested in your kathy story to share with us th that you uncovered but recognize using that couldn't have been easy. yeah i think that might be does that by design you know some and i think that's also what i learned from writing this book is that some of the women are very eager to talk about their personal lives. you know, for instance, a

and the other one is to be fully fema via us. so for these 3, we can detect that in both animals on humans. and so the system that we have collected here, we'd be tested to find out. the only top talks that's a 1st it's most kill him. i'm joe, right. as the most sy, communities have also live close to the capital. so the risk of diseases jumping from animals to humans as high, even so many people don't know enough about how to protect themselves. one thing i'm going to get our cows that's suffered from a number of diseases that we don't recognize in gwinnett, one of them, for example, came from water. uh, one bed. you can go my g p. s. other infections can be transmitted by biting insects or, but the spread of disease 3 does, he will to oppose is the biggest danger to live stuck from a slight kitchen bay to reach me from the account. number of the problem has been exacerbated by extreme droughts. him kenya is now that there's drought, farmers are suffering many losses. they've lost a lot of live stock and we can hardly identify t

i said this the name of the phrase, the patient from 6, this is a fix that and the fema. so how about if i were in the mirror, thousands and thousands of people saying to me and living in was very different now . yeah, the transitions are there. well, yeah. okay. and this is the yeah that, that, that how does that have to be? this is what happened is the zip the draws of the west then sounds good and where is the government? the from is somebody, everything was 0 or j in every i had a you was a mass, the savings that time above at the end of this uh why the only thing that happened with that before the eyes of the same. yeah. the the and then the same, the world, the where do those see, you know, in the world does that right? with some exception that somebody up one to 5 to not to do any. yeah. and i see the and so now, so no relation i made, it gave us and it gave me the other side of this uh, the spectrum of it was worth it. i mean, for the sake of the 1st and last completely forgot them. i haven't done any of the the that's the policy of our journey is that through tha