officer fenarus you have rebuttal as well. >> there's a letter i sent mr. johnson back on -- looks like april, informing him that if he failed to appear at his last hearing in may -- >> this is for the denied permit in bay bridge, right? >> this is for, yes, bay bridge. >> i think we're on the revocation of the nelson permit. so do you have anything on that, in terms of applications or -- >> you know, that fell into the same category as bay bridge, basically there were no fingerprints and once he was fingerprinted he was in vials of the municipal code. >> do you have any documentation -- >> i don't have that here. >> wanted to double check. >> okay. as far as hiding, i don't think he was hiding anything. the application was just incomplete. i explained to mr. johnson he would be eligible to reapply in 2013. >> for the new permit. >> for the new permit. >> i think all we're talking about today is the existing nelson permit, that the department revoked in conjunction with the denial of the new permit. >> okay. >> that's how i understand it. i'm getting nods f