fencing allowed visibility made with reinforced steel. they are the same kinds of barriers customs and border protection experts told us produce real results. you can call them walls, you can call them fences. you can call them steel slats. what they really are is effective. that is what they are. call them what you will, they are effective. according to the government accountability office after the outdated fencing was replaced by this particular steel slats structure, the border patrol reported a significant drop in violent encounters with illegal immigrants.or the border patrol is not on either side in this debate, they just give us the facts, just the facts. the 2011 construction, 376 assaults on border patrol agents are recorded in no gallas station in the two years after the fence went up, the number of assaults fell to 71, that is 376 down to 71. that is a decline of 81%. after the wall. or fence. or steel slats. whatever you choose to call it. we have seen big success in other sectors as well, the trump administration reports and

after the wall or fence or steel slats, whatever you choose to call it. we've seen big success in other sectors as well. the trump administration reports that in four border sectors where physical barriers were recently built or upgraded, illegal traffic stopped by -- listen to this -- 90%. 90%. so, madam president, it's a fact physical barriers are effective. as democratic senators used to understand perfectly well when there was a different occupant of the white house. and indeed us -- used to say publicly, used to say they are an essential ingredient in a balanced strategy to secure our border. that was then. and this is now. so why the tale of two completely democratic parties? why does the speaker of the house compel to denounce as demoral the very kind of structures that her own party leaders recently praised as essential? why does my democratic colleague, the democratic leader, feel the need to prolong this partial government shutdown to avoid getting more of the same investments he used to vote for? what's the reason for this bizarre about-face? w

do we disagree on a wall or really agree that maybe a steel fence qualifies as a fence and not a wall? do we want to build a steel barrier anyway? having those types of conversations. the discussion turned to a bunch of technical requests that democrats were asking for for the first time ever in these negotiations. so i think this is going to drag on a lot longer. i think that's by intention. >> obviously there is a lot of distrust here. part of this seems to be generated by the president himself. on one hand, he empowered the vice president to potentially cut a deal. the democrats rejected the vice president's offer of $2.5 billion. but apparently it's because the president said he never would have agreed to it. so the democrats have this attitude, what they tell us is that they can't trust anybody in the room other than the president. >> no. i think they said that. i'll tell you the same thing the president told them when we were in the meeting. look, i sent the vice president down with a piece of paper to the senate minority leader, to chuck schumer. that was our proposal. you're n

we should add fencing to the border. and outspoken liberals like senator clinton and senator obama voted to add fencing to the border in 2006 and said that is the right thing to do. but suddenly now, a decade and a couple of years later, it's a partisan issue and we can't allow president trump to have additional fencing. it seems very odd to me. this seems like a personal attack on the president rather than a realization of where we've been as a country for a long time. we should have basic border security. and for the president to be actually very mallable in this, shocking so to some people that he stepped out and said i want $5.7 billion for a wall or for fencing or steel barriers or whatever you want to call it, we need some additional barriers on it, to negotiate during the christmas time period and to be stuck because the white house makes an offer to senator schumer and senator schumer's response apparently was we will wait to negotiate this after nancy pelosi becomes speaker. so for ten days we sat with no negoti

they stated old sentencing -- fencing. that old fencing had a dozen penetrations through it in a day, a day, it's meaningless. the new fencing they're putting up, the steel slats, that steel barrier has one person a month, one a month. so it moved from 10 to 12 a day, to one a month. that's a pretty big difference. that's helping actually manage our border. that's why fencing actually does work. and i'm fully aware, folks say put up a 30 foot fence you get a 31 foot ladder. what happens if you climb a 31 foot ladder, you have to slow down in the process and gives time for the border patrol to interdict. and that's really what a fence is it all about. to say, you can't just cross here easily. you've got to be able to slow down through the process so we can interdict folks. this is a completely avoidable and, quite frankly, very recognizable problem. we should not have a government shutdown happening right now. interestingly enough, some democratic colleagues i've spoken with over the last two days will quietly whisper in th

with a wall or fence or whatever you choose to call it. we have seen big success in other sectors as well the trump administration and for other sectors where physical barriers were recently built or upgraded illegal traffic was stopped by 90 percent. 90 percent. so madam president, it is a fact physical barriers are effective as democratic senators understand well when there is a different occupant in the white house and indeed you say they are an essential ingredient in the balanceas security but that was then and this is now. so why is the tale of two completely democratic parties speaker of the house compelled to call it in moral? that her own party leaders praised as essential? why does my democratic leader feel the need to prolong this partial government shutdown for what they used to vote for? what is the reason for the bazaar about-face? even the democrats are finding it difficult to come up with an excuse on tuesday the distinguish house majority leader mister hoyer was asked how there is any real daylight between construction pro

in 2009, the current democratic leader praised as major progress quote, 630 miles of border fence, fence, that create a significant barrier to illegal immigration. that's the now majority leader in 2009. now minority leader in 2009. during the last presidential election, former senator clinton saw fit to tout the numerous times she voted to quote, build a barrier to try and prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. that's hillary clinton. numerous times, significant barrier, badly needed. that was where leading democrats sto stood. today, however, it seems is a new party line. the use of physical barriers to preserve the integrity of a sovereign nation is now, according to the new speaker of the house, immoral. immoral. from badly needed to immoral in little more than the span of a presidency. so talk about a pivot. talk about a pivot. my democratic friends wanted fencing and physical barriers in the recent past. their most prominent leaders actually bragged about voting for physical barriers. the only thing that has changed between then and now is the occupant of the white house. steel

fence. that created significant barriers to illegal immigration. that is now majority leader, in 2009. the nonminority leader in 2009. during the last presidential election, former senator clinton saw fit to tout the numerous times she voted to quote - build a barrier to try and prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. that is hillary clinton. numerous times, significant barrier, badly needed. that was where leading democrats stood. today, however,, it seems there is a new party line. the use of physical barriers to preserve the integrity of a sovereign nation is now according to the new speaker of the house, immoral. immoral. from a badly needed, to immoral. and in little more in the span of a presidency. so, talk about a pivot. talk about a pivot. my democratic friends wanted fencing and physical barriers in the recent past.th their most and prominent leaders actually bragged about voting for physical barriers. the only thing that has changed between then and now is the office of the whi

. >> fencing. >> fencing. >> fencing at the border. >> fencing at the border, by which i assume they, cross, cross, good! ♪ >> very nice, very nice. thank you. >> if i were fencing, i would probably do that. en garde. i can see it right now. fencing as far as the eye can see. an army of swordsmen and swordswomen parrying and ripo e riposting. who would want to mess with those people? now you naysayers out there might say that fencing at the border just will not work. it is obsolete technology. it's prohibitively expensive. it's too simple a solution for our complex multifaceted problem. it's downright silly. well, i have just one word for you. touche. that thankfully is all for tonight. we will be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." "the beat" starts right now with yari in for ari. >> not only did you get that, you saw the problem at the border. >> i got to tell you, that's the best idea anyone could possibly have. >> i agree. let's go with it. i like that i was in your mash by the way. >> i heard my voice as well. the mockery goes spread far and wide. >> have a good rest of your ni

works, and the fence has worked. for almost 700 miles of fence already on the southern botherd. i would point out in 2009 the senate democrat leader said in a speech and i quote, any immigration solution must recognize that we must do as much as we can to gain control of our borders as soon as possible, end quote. that from 2009 from the senate democrat leader, who went on to discuss, interestingly enough, progress that had been made on border security between 2005 and 2009, including, and i quote, construction of 630 miles of border fence to create a significant barrier to illegal immigration on our southern land border, end quote. that's from the democrat leader. in 2009, again, crediting the construction of 630 miles of border fence that create a significant barrier to illegal immigration on our southern land border. in other words, madam president, in 2009 the democrat leader not only didn't oppose border fences, he praised them. madam president, the fact of the matter is our border is not secure. tens of thousan

the 2006 law resulted in 105 miles of fencing in arizona, 211 in arizona, 166 miles of fencing in a sector that spans new mexico and texas, though most of this is in new mexico. and in texas, in total there is less than 100 miles of fencing. now this is where the priority is now for the border patrol, is texas. why? because texas is 1,200 miles of the 2,000 mile border and yet they only have 100 miles of barriers. so the new fencing that the administration has requested, as we understand it, is particularly necessary in the most populated parts of the rio grande valley, on the texas-mexico border. by the way, that's where 40% of the crossings occur. so you would think it makes sense to have more barriers there. again, it's not all about barriers. it has to be an all-of-the-above strategy. the $5.7 billion in barriers, about $4 billion more than the bipartisan senate homeland security appropriations bill, is what they are proposing. so it's about $4 billion more, $4.1 billion, i think to be exact than what's in the bill agreed to on a bipartisan basis. in december democrats proposed $1.3 bi

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fences work. yet, 10 years ago i heard members from the senate judiciary committee argued fences don't work because migrant then shifted from california to arizona, new mexico, texas. only in washington is that logic passable. fences don't work because they worked? that may have been the first time though it won't be the last that i heard fences is a first or third or 18th century solution for a 21st century problem. but in el paso, in yuma, in tucson, in israel, fencing was put in place and we've seen reductions up to 90% or more in illegal crossings. this body has repeatedly authorized foreign assistance to our allies for fencing of their borders. we've repeatedly authorized fencing for the united states of america, but we're here today trying to get it funded and to get it built. it's time to stop posturing about things that everybody in america knows. in texas, let's stop talking. let's go down to brownsville. let's start building a fence where we need it and work our way up the river. to my c

in other words, in 2009 the democratic leader not only opposed the border fences, he praised them. our border is not secure tens of thousands of individuals try to cross the southern border illegally each month coming to ports of entry federal agents has seen a 115 percent increase of fentanyl seized between ports of entry and 30 percent of the heroin supplied in this country, i should say 90 percent goes across our southern border. humans trafficking, weapons trafficking and more. we need better and more security including barriers and technology and personnel along the southern border. we don't know who is coming into our country and why we need criminals and traffickers and terrorists and dangerous goods out of the country. house majority leader steny hoyer was asked about the urdemocrats flip-flop on border security nothing different from what they supported in the past and what they are doing now. i don't have an answer that i think is a really good answer. i don't have an answer that i think is a really good answer. matter presidentt. at least they are honest. democrats don't

walls and fences still work. border securityk. still matters. american families still deserve safety. reality is still reality. .. and 25% of our government. and democrats refused to come to the table with a legitimate offer that would end this partial government shutdown and provide vital border security measures. their efforts has caused 800,000 to not get paid and completely stalled the senate because the senator from new york has gotten his colleagues to fall in line to block the legislation that's currently on the floor that would offer aid and comfort to our friends and allies in the middle east, countries like israel, and jordan. so it's completely stalled our work here in the senate as well and, sadly, their efforts have sought to make border security more of a political football than the national security issue that it is. what i find so cynical is the fact that democrats have drawn a line in the sand over something that they have largely supported in the past. for example, in 2006, we passed the secure fence act. this legislation calle

understood most of the fences that it's supposed to stop wild pigs getting into denmark. is part of a danish government's action plan such gone through to do so they deal. elizabeth warren bernie sanders joe biden there's already a long list of politicians rumored or confirmed to be running for u.s. president in twenty twenty and you can now add democratic senator carl harris the list. she's one of the party's front runners for the nomination and the chance to challenge donald trump in two thousand and twenty the former prosecutor kicked off her campaign in her hometown of oakland california and is presenting herself as the leader who could unite america. long lines in downtown oakland come along harrah's drew a big crowd here for her companion kick of rally among them many young women like in portugal eager to hear what the senator has to say. we really love how strong she is unlike criminal justice reform immigration she just doesn't allow people to believe her like she asked the hard questions she keeps her composure she's really will spoken i am excited to see her or

makes sense or that there's even a necessity for the fence so there's been a lot of criticism against the danish government let's get political now there have been some questions about possible other boat behind this fence i mean does this mean that mark is closing the border for example well critics have actually said that the danish government is trying to appeal to a sort of more right wing voter and within denmark and in particular is trying to snap up the voters of the danish people's party which is quite a far right party there and the danish people's party actually when it was announced that this was going to be built this this this border fence they said that we should out a couple of metres of the fence not just keep the german wild boar away but also illegal immigrants asylum seekers and adventures and that was actually from a spokesman on european affairs for that party there's also. a border fence not so extensive as the one between denmark and germany but there is one also being built between france and belgium so this is for pigs also for pigs to keep this illness. their

and senator barack obama voted for the secure fence act. then senator hillary clinton voted for the secure fence act, and then senator chuck schumer voted for this bill. pass by 80-19, an overwhelming why parts of approval. as recently as 2013, all of the senate democrats and two independents voted for a broader immigration reform plan that called for no fewer than 700 miles of border fencing. that measure ultimately failed in the house but let me repeat every single democrat in the senate voted -- who was the lead sponsor? chuck schumer here so asking for additional berries and fencing on the board as part of a broader strategy to make it more secure shouldn't be that controversial. is it the only answer? no, it's not. having said all that, when you remove the partisan politics and political symbolism i continue believe we are not that far apart. iftt you look at the january 6 letter that the truck administration sent to the congress saying please find these priorities and you'll see that the response to what's happening along our border t

of e is currently 654 miles fencing or some type of barrier.he at we're looking at is border wall that was constructed back in >>2009. her backyard was signed into law by president george w. bush. the bill i't to sign is an important step in our nation's efforts to secure our reform our immigration system. this? who voted for >> well, both, there were republicans and democrats who voted for this. united and now wre not. >> these people approved it just ago.w years and now all of sudden they aren't. the reason is because of me. it.ate it to say >> how did the debate over border security ultimately lead longest ever government shutdown? ♪ > in the 1990s there was a significant amount of undocumented immigration across u.s.-mexican border. >> people would run through port to getnt the united states. all americans, not only in the states most heavilyte aff in ever place in this disturbed brightly of illegal mbers aliens entering our country. >> bill clinton became the first resident to order a 17-mile barrier to be built along the mexican border. d

don't have to go too far back in history bipartisan legislationin where they built the wall or the fence or the physical barrier, it is a wall. it works that is under obama. he went on it isn't based on ideology but historical data and facts that can be proven i cannot think of a legitimate argument why somebody would not support the wall as a multilayer border security issue. so why are we not listening to the experts like the border patrol chief under president obama? the experts know what they are talking about. the fax back them up where the administration has already improved physical barriers with illicit traffic has fallen 90 percent. 90 percent not too long ago my colleagues across the aisle have a completely different position on the subject before the political wind blew a different way before this president was nominated the senate democrats heed the advice with wide bipartisan margin the senate has cleared billions of dollars of funding of physical barriers to have funding for border security. that was senator obama 2006 in 2009 the democratic leader praises major progress 63

there have been questions about possible other motives behind this fence. does this mean that denmark is closing the border? >> critics of actually said that the danish government is trying to appeal to a more right-wing voter within denmark an snapping up voters of the danish people's party. what it was announced that this was going to be built, the danish people's party, this border fence, they said that we should add a couple of meters so the fence not just keeps wild boar away but you legal immigrants and asylum seekers. that was from the spokesman on european affairs for the party. there is also, funnily enogugh,a border fence not so extensive but one being built between france and belgium. >> all this for pigs? >> for pigs, to keep this illness out of their country, too. or contained. >> interesting stuff. thank you very much. now it's tough being immigrant getting into, used to a new country, learning which and finding a job, but here in berlin, life has been made easier by the fourth annual jobs there for immigrants -- jobs fair for immigrants. thou

fence.y wanted a is now basically complete. >, fence asi obama attacked immigration, it took the shape of more than two million deportations during his timefi . deported actually more people than president trump has. of it was the tactic,sthat the admition could show immigration gh on enforcement that could pave the way toward comprehensive conversationsform with republicanec >> despite aase in apprehensions at the board in years, due in part to the fence, that reform never happened. 2015, a certain billionaire rode down the escalator. they are trump: bringing drugs, they are bringi crime, rapists, and i assume, are good people. >>re pdent trump's rhetoric around immigration is significantly harder. harsher.nificantly e's taking a veryne strong to hen it comes tod immigrants linking them to crime and terrorism. >> without a lot of evidence ans statiso back it up. president trump: physical, tall, beautiful, south wall. [applause] >> and i think that shift in rhetoric, and again, democrats fee

we've already built a big part of the fence. we'll buil second fence. it's a compromise. you can get it done.o >> if he go ahead, president trump, if he does declare this national emergency from a legal standpoint, scott, n he do that? no other president has ever done this, to declare anational emergency, to fund a policy proposal to bypass congress. >> thbere will challenges that might stop it. i agree with shawn. if he were to do that, he could tell his base and fox news, i'm fighting for this. it's going to have to be resolved through the courts. meanwhile, let's move ahead. >> even if he never gets the border w wl built -- is winning in the court of public opinion about th is? >> opinion firmly against the wall. i thi% of americans are opposed to the wall and two-thirds of independen voters oppose it. when it comes down to the wall, that's firmly on the democrats side. >> it's different when you talk about border security generally and dreamers, there's much broader support for that. i think republicans could get a win if they would come to comprehensive deal. >> this

i've been on one side of the fence, the two sides of the fence, where the patrol roadway in between and looked pretty effective to me and the numbers indicate it was effective. see when we in 2005 added a wall in -- add a wall in yukon -- in yuma part of the arizona sector, apprehensions went down another 95%. so we've got president clinton, president bush, bush 43 bush 41, all were part of thinking barriers worked and the congress was, too. this was not an issue as to whether or not a wall works where a wall works until president trump as a candidate began to talk about building a wall. they make a big difference in the areas where we've tried them in the past. now, the president's often said in recent days that the wall doesn't necessarily work everywhere. and i fully agree with that. the wall, couldn't afford the wall everywhere and if you did have the wall everywhere, you'd have to monitor it with some remote monitoring device anyway because there's a lot of the border that there just aren't people there. there's not access there. it doesn't mean you can't monitor that, it doesn't m

walls and fences work. he is also ignorant to how congress works in we did put $5.7 billion into the bill, and chuck schumer and the democrats blocked it in the senate. the bottom-line is until you get , 60 votes in the senate or you get a senate minority leader who believes in border security, we will have catch and release and all the humanitarian drug problems gang problems. we have problems in maryland. ms 13. of your, a5 miles hot that of ms 13. ms 13 crosses the border illegally. some cross legally. a lot cross illegally. if i want to protect my constituents, we need border security. host: republican, jonathan, go ahead. caller: i have experience in doing physical security and cyber security. when people say a wall does not work, it is kind of elementary. a wall is basic. you need the wall for defense technology to work effectively. if they all just say we do not need the wall, we need better technology, that technology would be irrelevant if all they are doing is observing people walking through. if

they stated that the old fencing that's there and there's some very old fencing in that area, that old fencing had more than a dozen penetrations through it a day. a day. it was meaningless. but the new fencing they're putting up, these big steel slats, that steel barrier has one person a month, one a month. so it moved from ten to 12 a day to one a month. that's a pretty big difference. that's helping actually manage our border. that's why fencing actually does work and i'm fully aware folks say you put up a 30-foot fence, you get a 31-foot ladder. what happens if you climb a 31-foot ladder, you have to slow down in the process and gives time for the border patrol to interdict. that's what a fence is all about to say you can't just cross here easily. you have to be able to slow down through the process so we can actually interdict folks. this is a completely avoidable and quite frankly very recognizable problem. we should not have a government shutdown happening right now. interestingly enough, some of my democratic colleagues that i have spoken with over the last two days will quietl

fencing in the past.owever, what is happening today and hopefully the administration will come, the administration has not come up with any specific plan as to how they're going to spend this money. now, remember, i understand it was the last congress. the president said to mitch mcconnell, i'll sign this bill. mitch mcconnell signed a bill. he sent it to the house. we were prepared to vote for that bill but the republicans wanted to shut down the government. we need to open up government and then negotiate. not the other way around. we're prepared to negotiate. we're prepared to have the homeland security bill approved for a short term so that we have to negotiate. >> is an impeachment process inevitable? >> no, i don't think an impeachment process is inevitable. and that's not what we're focused on. we're focused on bills. we have to focus on getting the government open. that's our primary first responsibility. >> are impeachment talks a distraction? >> i think the impeachment talks are a distraction. w

fences for illegals to so we can, drones take their pictures if they climb over the fences, more security guards. the border guards greet them. they come over and say we want asylum. if they are processed. all of this costs money. workers00,000 federal went to pay periods without pay. i feel bad for those people. what i don't here is numbers year are00 people a dying from drug overdoses. shutdown, 8500 people died from drug overdoses. nancy, 800,000 people -- 800,000 people went without pay. why don't they talk about the people who were dying and suffering? let's hear from steve in arizona. thank you for c-span. my question is pretty simple. in the past, you had grover norquist. he wanted to shrink government to the side that you could drown in a bathtub. and all thehutdown goings-on with it be part of the plan to shrink the government? i will take my answer on fear. host: whatever you want to pick up on. it seems to me a lot of the funding questions like when people see that flights aren't taking off at laguardia, it's important for government in their lives. with drug overdoses, it is h

and take steps to protect itself from wild pigs it's building a fence along its border with germany to prevent the spread of swine fever which critics say the move also house political nutters. i'm phil gal welcome to the program the self declared interim leader of venezuela has called for fresh protests against president nicolas maduro the venezuelan opposition also wants new elections and several european countries say they will switch their support if no vote is cold water has also been trying to persuade generals to abandon their support for the door. target practice under the eyes of president nicolas maduro it took place at fort paramount in two thousand and seventeen a group of soldiers rose up against the government this time it was about showing loyalty. are you plotting a coup. or are you constitutionalists. traitors never always loyal. to their. murderous sees the hand of western governments behind opposition protests he says they're trying to overthrow him he knows the military is key to staying in power the opposition leader wants why though is trying to convince the milit

act that built 650 miles of fencing.was supported by vast majorities on both sides of the aisle at that time. now it's become very, very partisan for this very similar style of fencing. no one's talking in congress -- >> senator, with all due respect you keep using -- >> i understand. senator you keep calling it fencing and all of these other things. the president, in fact, mocks that at times, and you know, he talks about steel slats. the point is that there does seem to be what you're describing there is bipartisan support for. how the president describes it there isn't. >> right. >> how do you fix that problem? >> i would say dhs has already fixed that. this is the type of fencing that dhs has approved, the white house has signed off. this particular style of fencing that they've used for a long time. the white house has backed off of doing a concrete solid wall, which i don't think it would be useful and the border patrol folks said is the wrong way to do the design. there is a difference. in san diego where they cha

you also come out in support of enhanced fencing. does that mean any new fencing? could you support any new fencing? >> we will have to see what the particulars are as it relates to justification for enhanced additional fencing along a 2,000 mile border. but in terms of a political promise that donald trump made during the campaign and is trying to now extract from the american taxpayers, that's completely unreasonable. and the hope is really we can begin to focus on issues of importance for the american people connected to the agenda, which is what we want to begin to work on moving forward. >> what about if the government is able to reopen even until february with some kind of continuing resolution? would you be open to some kind of broader negotiation, which might include more money for either enhanced fencing or the president may say some barrier or wall or legal status for dreamers or the undocumented workers of the country? >> we need to resolve the issue with the dreamers with urgency. i do look forward to having that level of a mature conversation about bip

of denmark started building a fence today along its border with germany copenhagen hopes the seventy kilometer metal construction will halt the spread of african swine fever which is transmitted by wild boars it's attracted lots of controversy for environmental and political reasons as well. to abuse pablo foley has been doing some muckraking on this story and joins me now in the studio first of all why is denmark so concerned about african swine fever well first and foremost it exports around four billion euros worth of pork products every year on almost half of those are exported to countries outside the european union so if this disease were to enter denmark those exports would be immediately affected because they would be able to export any of that european union and it's as you said seventy kilometers long denmark is also the country with the it has more pigs than people so it's a. pretty big industry there too you were talking as well about the fact that it's a one and a half meter high fence it goes as well then fifty centimeters deep it's expected to be built by the end of th

in 2006 the democratic and ranking member on the judiciary committee voted to authorize a border fence. they were joined in their vote by then-senator biden, then-senator clinton, and then-senator obama. in 2013, every senate democrat, bar none, supported legislation requiring the completion of a 700-mile fence along our southern border. this legislation would have provided $46 billion for border security and $8 billion specifically for a physical barrier. 2013. as recently as last year, last february nearly every senate democrat, 46 out of 49, supported $25 billion for border security just last february. in 2009 the senate democratic leader said in a speech, and i quote, any immigration solution must recognize that we must do as much as we can to gain operational control of our borders as soon as possible. let me repeat that, madam president. in 2009 the democrat leader said, and i quote, any immigration solution must recognize that we must do as much as we can to gain control of our borders as soon as possible. then he went on to discuss progress that had been made on our border secu

he says fencing because it's called bollard fencing. they also want technology and drones.fact, it's what the democrats included in the omnibus bill last year. they did play some politics by saying, oh, we're only going to replace stuff. we're not going to put any new fencing up. that was to tamp down the notion that the president deserved any credit, let's be honest, but take a look at his tweet. he wants you to think that he is behind what is already up there. look at it, much of the wall has already been built. this is not his design. this is the stuff that they have already learned about and been putting into practice for years. you can argue not enough, you can argue not in enough places, but barriers near population centers and the ability to monitor elsewhere and more importantly to have the resources to handle people once they get here, that's all this current reality. it is not something that the president came up with through his own reckoning. the problem for the president is there is no reality to run to when it comes to paying for this imaginary wall. remember,

if there's a place where enhanced fencing, fencing would work, let them have that discussion. >> those comments were made minutes apart in the same press conference. we get once again into the semantic trap about what's a wall, what's a fence. now we're talking about normandy barriers. what would be actually necessary in specific places along the u.s. border could still be built. but the idea of some big expansive wall like the president keeps talking about is just not on the table. democrats, remind you, control that committee. they have one additional vote on that committee. nothing's coming out of that committee if democrats hold the line and say they're not building it. >> let's talk about the committee. the president is not on it. do you have any sense of where the two sides are? >> i think the two sides are republicans want some sort of win for the president here. even if the president is not directly involved, i've talked to white house officials, they say the president isn't going to try to insert himself too much into that committee. they need to be able to tell the president

barrier and have a rope or a little fence. and i know you took a picture of it, too. a rancher who has to be in his 70's and probably in his 80's and climbed under the fence that he in his advanced age could get under the fence and it was remarkable. did you have the same reaction that i did that that was outrageous and we have a line, so if you are law abiding, that is where to stop, the people we are dealing with are not law abiders. mr. gohmert: it was interesting to hear from the land owners, even up to the 90's, the people that came were mainly people looking for jobs and they would put out food and stuff and the border controlman congress firmed it and we were hearing it from the land owners and border patrol, it used to be, when they caught people, it was the first time they were caught and probably looking for a job in the u.s., but now most of the people coming, other than family units, most of them have records, criminal records, not just in mexico, like one we were being told about wanted for murder in mexico but mu

needs a fence.ay is the first time i heard the president say he doesn't want a fence all along the border. judge jeanine: the president said he doesn't need a concrete wall. you admit they should be talking. what is this woman going to afghanistan for? why is she not talking? >> i think the speaker of the house visiting the troops in afghanistan is important and it was probably long planned. judge jeanine: she should visit the troops at the southern border if she wants to find outfit's a manufactured crisis. >> they have nothing to do with her so they will have plenty of time to listen to her. >> chris, don't play silly here. you know full well that these codel trips are a scam. talk to an embassy staff personnel like i did in 30-plus countries. >> they are going to afghanistan. [all talk at once] >> pay the troops in afghanistan. that's how you show respect. >> the troops are getting paid. open up the government. give me a break. you have know codel is a scam. it's something we all pay for. >> we a

when chuck schumer in 2016 voted for the fence -- 2006 voted for the fence act, the language in that bill allows the department of homeland security to do most of the things they need to do. chuck schumer voted to authorize $50 billion to be spent to build fences. what president trump is saying right now, it's going to take $5 billion to secure our border today. and so when chuck schumer voted in 2006, he voted to authorize $50 billion, but he never put any money behind it. it's time to put up. it's time to actually deliver on your false promises. if you're for border security, which many democrats, even nancy pelosi say they're for, yet, they're not willing to put up more than a dollar to secure the border, that's an insalt. it's an insult to all of -- that's an insult. it's an insult to those that didn't get a paycheck last week. this issue ought to get resolved by people sitting at the table and actually negotiating in good faith. not refusing to come to the white house. not refusing to put a counteroffer on the table. when the president says i'm willing to negotiate, even on the