host: is the ferdie first your deadline? guest: the farm bill already on september 30. right now we are operating under an expired farm bill. propood news is all of the -- crop programs are covered. producers are covered. people are getting their benefits. what happens after the first year, farmers and ranchers across the country are going to begin to plan for next year's crop. they need to know what the roles of the game are going to be. host: that brings up commodity groups. there was a story in politico by david rogers that there has been lobbying threatening the farm bill, that the commodity growers,he corn soybean folks, the sugar folks are warring against each other. quote from congressman collin peterson. this is not helping to get a farm bill. i didn't have this in 2008 when he was the chairman. the attitude among the commodity be lined up and shoot. guest: one of the things concerned about is making sure we get a farm bill the covers all the various crops. what chairman lucas's goal has been through the whole process. we can't have a farm bill for some farmers.