guess you could say i was doing my roots search, but i happened upon this one island, where ferdinand magellanthe great explorer, the great portuguese explorer was killed. i bet there isn't a single person in this room besides my two daughters, who could tell me the name of the warrior who killed ferdinand magellan. i would like to tell his story. growing up in the united states, i saw no images can certainly no statues, read no accounts of anybody who looked like me, who resembled my history as being worthy -- worthy of praise, worthy of recognition. and for me to go to this island and tell the stories of luck to us who come in the name of the warrior who killed ferdinand magellan, for me it was important to actually stand on the sand, where the battle to place. and i don't know if i can fully explain why. it was an affirmation to a certain degree that men that look like me did have strains, could stand up, confide and could win. and i was a message that i did not grow up knowing. i didn't know that growing up. >> thank you. we're going to take questions after just one more. we had two microp

and for me to go to this island and tell the story of the warrior who killed ferdinand magellan, forit was important for me to actually stand on the sand where the battle took place. i don't know if i can fully explain why. it was an affirmation to a certain degree that man that look like me did have strength, could stand up, could fight, and could win. that was a message said i did not grow up knowing. i did not know that going out. >> thank you. it will take questions after just one more. to reach the c-span readers, even though we may not need them, please stand up. i want to ask you one other thing on the methodology in the interviews you did, you say 1200 interviews. this is a very, very personal question. how did you know you didn't need 1200 and one? eric is a tendency here to always think that the next interview is vital. >> that is why i got to that many. that was -- many people considered it to be of no way more than necessary. i knew that i had gone enough when i had a core group of about 30 people, any of whom could have been the three. and one of them in particular -- it