the mccarran-ferguson, the repealed mccarran ferguson repealed, as they say these and other needs are still there. they are still 30 million people in our country without health insurance but the most important point i think is that the present system is unsustainable. we cannot afford an upward spiral of costs. families hands, businesses can't, our economy canton terms of our international competitiveness and certainly the federal budget cannot. so we are going to have to continue to go in a forward direction to lower costs, to hold the insurance companies and accountable, to make sure what we do is affordable to the middle class and as we expand access to quality affordable health care. it is still a very exciting initiative. ranks right up there with social security and medicare, and we are meeting with the members on every, at the caucus and different groups of the caucus to add here to halladay receive the best way to go, how they would prefer to go forward. but, we will go forward. so with that i would be pleased to take any questions. >> the message from massachusetts seems to

>>ferguson the economic impact over the next few years, between now and 2012, will be somewhere around 6 point 5 billion dollars from this one project. and thats a remarkable number for a community of our size. >>the mayor helped to seal the kia deal which he hopes will turn around the citys fortunes. about 10thousand people will work in the kia compound and a further 20 thousand jobs are likely to be created in the local communy, >>ferguson: this has been an amazing opportunity. we are very empathetic to what goes on in other parts of the nation. and so when you hear voices of dissent, they are not from this area. we are embracing these opportunities, we are embracing the future of this region, and our little city has taken a leadership role for this. >>khazanah nasional is malaysias huge investment holding company with a 25 billion dollar portfolio covering over 50 major companies. it was also the driving force behind the vast iskandar special economic zone in southern malaysia. the md of khazanah, azman mokhtar was previously head of research for both ubs and sbs in malaysia. with s

because it was equipped with ferguson hawks. they hydraulics. they sold for $535 back in 1939. >>> our first "country church salute" goes to the holy name parish in cedar lake indiana. with roots back to 1831 german immigrants settled in what is now northwest indiana. after block a number of devastating fires the current billing was 1940. holy name parish celebrated its 150th anniversary in 2009. >>> now we head just down the road to lowell, indiana, to salute zion united church of christ. another con agree foundation celebrating 150 years of service. 2 families started a church back in 1849 and, today, it has members from 13 different towns in both indiana and illinois. its original pump was to stand watch over the prairie. and now members say the church is small enough to know you but big enough to serve you. >>> as always, we'd like to learn about your home church as well. salutes can be sent to the address on the screen and please stay with us. the mailbag is next. ♪ it's tough out here. the days are long. the nights get lon

eventually we'll ferguson married his mother.hey moved to colorado and with king samuel retired a few years ago as a colonel in the united states air force. >> talking about the dangers these men went through, flying into and out of berlin. the three corridors into berlin, one in the north, one in the south and then they central one is the return, but one of the things and i wonder if you could describe the conditions of landing at the airport in the center of berlin? >> tempelhof airport for any of you have seen it one of the most extraordinary places in the world. in the first place on one side of it is a building. it is done in nazi gothic. it was the largest building in the world, three-quarters of a mile long. it looped around with seven levels. there were hospitals, plane factories down into the ground and there was more floor than any building in the world until the pentagon was finished. on the other side of this crespo, a very pretty. the other side of this grass bowl or six and seven story apartment buildings, and they

we're joined by sarah ferguson the duchess of york. she's working with c.a.r.e. to support relief efforts in atety. and our own snoop dogg. where would we be without snoop. he's here as well. sarah, you and tea are both mothers, right? >> absolutely. >> larry: the worst thing about this is the children being hit, don't you think? >> it's frightening to think there's 37,000 pregnant women on the streets right now terrified about giving birth to their first child and not knowing how to get the hygiene kits and the water and care needed. so they need to get in there with kits to give them the chance they need to help them out, and, of course, unicef which i think by the way answered some calls and i think it's incredible, $700,000, well-done. it's amazing. >> larry: this is heart-breaking. i look at you look at the scenes here. how do you take this? you're involved with it every day. >> i think the only one to handle this is to look forward. we have had our first wave, our first incredible disaster. we need to work immediately to prevent a more heinous second wave a

teach this in the schools, they feel about americans the way young wolfgang sanibel dittman leal ferguson came into his life. >> that's right. this was a city that was still starving in 1948, 49 and as you said 80% of the housing stock was gone, people were living in basements and so on so of rubble women were clearing things away, building things, it was quite remarkable. still in the 60's and 70's i have to say landing at tempelhof in the jets' use still sort of went like this, and i often think i'm being hypergolic but i'm not. you could look as you were landing over into those apartment buildings and see people in the kitchens preparing lunch or dinner so one can only imagine what it was like when the planes were coming in and then these bad conditions. >> one of the ironies of course when the plane stopped coming the airlift continued after may 12th because we were building up stockpiles in case the russians tried another blockade. but so the planes kept coming in. when they finally stopped in september and many germans, many from berlin to the cause bleeding without the noise commit

i believe, folks, it is time to change the mccarren-ferguson act so you lived this protection that theaws. there are only two industries in america that have protection from antitrust laws. you talk about holding costs down and have a more choice and competition -- changing mccarren-ferguson so the insurance companies are not protected by the antitrust laws ought to be a priority. >> number 883 and 870. who has 883? >> my name is chris ashley and i am really concerned about the financial status of our government. looking at health care, i have to think about the condition of social security and of medicare, both teetering the tremendous federal deficit that seems to be getting bigger and bigger and wondering, how in the world we are going to pay for this. >> you raise an extremely important point. a bit of history, and then my sense of what is next. at the beginning of 2009, it was the general judgment of economists, conservatives, moderates, liberals, economists all across the political spectrum that there was a real prospect our country could have had a depression and a real prospect

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>> yes, david letterman, and, of course, craig ferguson and jimmy kimmel and all the people who are having a nice laugh over what's happening to their colleagues. i wonder if donald in his media would say if the economy were different and if nbc's economy were different they could have afforded to maybe let things go a little longer, not that i think that would have helped. in the old days they could afford to let a thing go a year and then say it's no good. >> larry: donald, do you think so? >> i don't think so, dick. i think the ratings were extremely bad on the tonight show. jay leno was actually doing the ratings they anticipated, about 5 million people. that's what they thought he would get, but nbc could never be number one, because when you have 5 million people at the 10:00 hour, you can never be number one. >> larry: give me the forecast, dick. how will it end up? >> with conan making a deal within the next week to ten days to leave. i think then they'll move jay back into the tonight show, they'll call it the tonight show, they'll have an hour-long show. jimmy fallon will retain

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advisor, a former fed governor now the president of the san francisco pd federal reserve bank, roger ferguson, the head of tia-creff who used to be at the fed. and larry summers, the president's economic advisor would i'm sure love to have the job if the president needed somebody and thought that larry summers could get through the senate. >> woodruff: so david, is this truly up in the air? >> i do think it's up in the air. i think the odds still favor that mr. bernanke gets through. but there more uncertainty about that tonight than there was 4 hours ago. and that's kind of unsettling. >> woodruff: david wessel, "the wall street journal," thanks. >> you are welcome. >> lehrer: and to the analysis of shields and brooks-- syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. >> lehrer: david, how much of this unsettling is the result of scott brown of massachusetts. >> i think a lot. i mean there's been as david said a lot of disquiet about the bailouts and things like that. but i think private leigh most members thought that bernanke is ao. that he got us that you a r

. >> i have to speak for the alison ferguson foundation which is charged with cleaning up the anacostia river. they have a big victory here. >> not just the bags. a thousand dollar fee to start a new business in prince george's county. speed cameras. higher parking fees. you can't leave a clunger in your neighborhood in montgomery county. >> longer than 30 days. >> i agree with that. >> we would agree a lot of this is good idea. this is all ideas to get money. >> some of them are good. >> i want to be careful because i don't want to lump all of this in. i think that you are nickelling and diming people to death and hitting working people. raising parking fees, and enforcing up until 10:30 at night and saturday in the district. so if you go to verizon for bruce springsteen concert or a tina turner concert now what do you do if it's over two hours? do you think i'll leave a concert to put a quarter -- you get a ticket. i think it's going to hurt businesses. going to hurt restaurants and bars. >> the one thing that has not come out of this is the talk of property tax raises. people in the

courts say must be, you know, come down from heaven, then we would still be living with plessy versus fergusonwe would still be living with rasulracial segregation at worst that i think it's perfectly appropriate to say the courts, you know, you're wrong and sometimes i think congress ought to step in and reverse things. that the courts have done. >> thank you. >> thank you. what does it feel like to be from california and come to this? >> i'm from idaho originally. >> so you have a code. all right. >> jonathan hayes, arkansas state university. i just want to do

with the idea that whatever the courts say comes from heaven, we would be living with plessy versus fergusonand worse. i think it is perfectly appropriate to say courts are wrong, and sometimes i think congress ought to steffan and reverse things -- step in and reverse things the courts have done pretty >> thank you. >> what does that feel like to come from california and go to this? >> i am from idaho originally. >> so you have a coat? >> yes. >> arkansas state university, and i want to know, how are you able to balance between being a delegate and a trusty in your career? >> i have done so much with the washington senator that i know there are political scientists in the room. i served with congress for 16 years, and i never heard delegate trusty until after i left congress. as i said earlier, using the delegate part, but you have to do, and what weighs on you all the time -- and what you have to do, and weighs on you all the time, is you are the representative of a certain community. you represent a particular constituency, and i think you have to take that as important. one problem with

ferguson -- fortunately, they were in the united states with me when this occurred. the critical needs our food and water, medical care, temporary shelters, security, and sanitation. in terms of diet, the most vulnerable groups are new york -- newborns and infants who require attention. the capital city problems continue to grow as people do not have access to goods. if resources are not more strategically distributed, the security situation on the ground could rapidly deteriorate. medical teams must also remain vigilant. respite trade affections and typhoid -- thousands more -- respiratory affections and typhoid could kill thousands more if steps are not taken to mitigate risks. the immediate goals -- in light of over 50 aftershocks with magnitude of 4.0 or greater, it is -- the structure of homes and buildings as critical for the future of the population. before entering the u.s. and earning his doctorate degree in structural engineering, specializing in salvation and water resources, my brother carl worked as an engineer in port- au-prince, and building codes at t

there is a real concern that insurance companies exemption from the karen ferguson antitrust laws haveen to the insurance companies a lacking in need of competing. a lack of transparency. and as a result, higher costs for consumers. we think that could be dealt with individually. and there are other items like that that may well be available to us to deal with individually. >> you made reference to congressional democrats taking a moment to understand the lessons of what the massachusetts voters were saying. what do you think the massachusetts voters were saying? >> i think the massachusetts voters were saying what the voters of '06 said and voters of '08 said. our country is not working right. we want you to change it. and in '07, and '08, of course, and '06 they elected democrats to lead the house and the senate. notwithstanding republicans assertion well, you were there in '07 and '08, we were not able to change any of the economic policies. why? because president bush either threatened to or did, in fact, veto our legislation. and we could not override his veto, which is to say tha

joseph university and the fact he is second in wins to bill ferguson say as lot about the length of hisand the success. >> steve: he is 27 wins away from a guy who has coached ten more years than him. he is going to be the winningest coach in the history of st. joseph. he has done an unbelievable job. he got to the final 8 and lost to oklahoma state on a tough play. i will never forget the great shooter. i'm losing it right now. >> tom: jameer nelson? >> steve: no. the lefty. carol. >> tom: yeah. matt carroll. >> steve: he misses it and lucas makes a shot from the corner. if he stays home and doesn't dive maybe he is on him. who knows. that is how the game goes. >> tom: jameer nelson had the open jumpshot as seconds wounds off. that was a heck -- wound off. that was a heck of a ballgame. that team by the way was voted by sports illustrated as the team of the decade. >> steve: you get a small catholic school that goes to number one in the country. those two guys are great players. both delonte west and jameer nelson, a lot of big schools passed on those two. that was good recruiting. >>

like his teacher adam ferguson and others of the scottish and lightman smith was endlessly fascinated by the paschal sutley between the intentions motivating our actions and consequences of those sections so rather than by coercion such arrangement would be accomplished in a general way through institutional forms that establish rules of the game intended to draw self-interest to people towards the sum means of it banting their interest but without forcing particular outcomes. smith made the case for this general approach to this theory of moral sentiments in four years later his lectures on jurisprudence he traced the social norms created this way can to be formalized into laws in specific areas of social life. he then collected and expanded the portions of those lectures dealing with questions of labor and commerce into a book about political economy a book called the wealth of nations and published in that fateful year of great ideas, 1776. is economics was one element of smith's larger vision but there was a particularly important one. as a good liberal the bleeped material prospe

ferguson -- fortunately, they were in the united states with me when this occurred. the critical needs our food and water, medical care, temporary shelters, security, and sanitation. in terms of diet, the most vulnerable groups are new york -- newborns and infants who require attention. the capital city problems continue to grow as people do not have access to goods. if resources are not more strategically distributed, the security situation on the ground could rapidly deteriorate. medical teams must also remain vigilant. respite trade affections and typhoid -- thousands more -- respiratory affections and typhoid could kill thousands more if steps are not taken to mitigate risks. the immediate goals -- in light of over 50 aftershocks with magnitude of 4.0 or greater, it is -- the structure of homes and buildings as critical for the future of the population. before entering the u.s. and earning his doctorate degree in structural engineering, specializingvati and water resources, my brother carl worked as an engineer in port- au-prince, and building codes at that time

the other thing is, frankly, if christine ferguson were here, christine was john chafee's health personthing that helps more than starting to give people lots of awards and recognition for things. you know, this is the time to go and throw, you know, think of, you know, best congressman ever on something. and just start giving people awards and recognition. and telling them you're -- you got their backes. for the election. because -- for the democrats in the house, this is all about the election. this is all about november. and they can't see beyond november. so anything that tells them that you're going to be there for them during the course of the campaign, and help them along the way, and help them, give them cover to vote for this, can only help. it can't hurt. >> i want to -- a good segue to a question i wanted to ask politically. if you were -- if you were thinking through the political consequences for democrats in the congress and perhaps less so for the president, what do you think the political equation is in terms of passing or not passing reform? you've got certainly blue do

but the other thing, if christine ferguson was her, she was john chaffee's health person for a along time. she would say, there's nothing that helps more than start, starting to give people lots of awards and recognition. for things. and you know, so this is the time to go and throw you know, think of you know, best congressman ever on -- on something. and just start giving people awards and recognition. and -- and telling them you're going, you got their backs for the election. because this is -- for the -- for the democrats in the house, this is all about the election. and this is all about the -- about november. they can't see beyond november. -- november. so anything that tells them, you're going to be this for them during the course of the campaign and help them along the way and help them, give them cover to vote for this can only help. it can't hurt. >> and i want to, i want to -- i want to -- there's a good segue and into a question i wanted to ask politically. and if -- if you were -- if you were thinking through the political consequences for democrats in the congress, perh

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courts say must be, you know, come down from heaven, then would still be living with plessy versus ferguson. we would still be living with, racial segregation and worse. so i think it is perfectly appropriate to say the court, you're wrong and sometimes i think the congress ought to step in and reverse things. that the courts have done. >> thank you. >> thank you. what does it feel like to be from california and come to this? isn't this -- >> i'm from idaho originally. >> okay. so you have a coat. all right. >> jonathan hayes, arkansas state university, i want to know in your own personal experience how you were able to be balance a delegate and trustee in your congressional career? >> i have to be very careful that i have done so much stuff with the washington center that i know there is political scientists in the room. i served in congress 16 years and never heard delegate trustee until after i left congress. as i said, earlier, using the delegate part, what you have to do, and what wes on you all the time, and should weigh on you, is that you are a representative of a particular communi

and then you cut and about price-fixing because of the ferguson act of 1945 in the antitrust exemption and yet you allow medicare price fixing. on the one hand you can plan the system is broken into costs too much and yet medicare is bankrupt. and of course there's still time. let's not forget the jail time. congresswoman, i would like you to answer do you think the people that elected you are just this stupid? why are you placing politics about people's lives? >> guest: well, the american medical association actually supports the legislation, so you're not representing the view of organized medicine here who does as you may know in the house bill we do make an important fix in terms of doctors, the income under medicare. in fact in the house bill because we increase the number of people and the senate bill, too increases the number of people and medicaid we understand that we need to raise the rate doctors are paid and so it is not about politics. this is about -- and i would agree with you i think that we need to do more to regulate the insurance industry and make sure we don't have

those accountability pieces, our members are very supportive to the vending the waiver of mccarran-fergusonntitrust laws for the insurance companies so those are some of the issues that have always been part of our agenda, for accountability, taking other forms, public option this are that but they are always about accountability for the health insurance. [inaudible] >> that had nothing to do with that. we were on this course of action anyway, because what we want to do is to move this legislation because i don't think the american people can wait any longer gillet it is about the assurance that they will have that we have found their common ground and that this legislation will pass though we are on the path we have always been on, from a time standpoint. i don't know, we are going to go back to the white house and talk about some other issues this afternoon and probably have a better idea as to when we can sense something that we will send it again, when we are ready, but very optimistic but we are finding common ground, making progress on the differences but remember, 75% of these bills

like his teacher adam ferguson and others of the scottish and lightman smith was endlessly fascinated by the paschal sutley between the intentions motivating our actions and consequences of those sections so rather than by coercion such arrangement would be accomplished in a general way through institutional forms that establish rules of the game intended to draw self-interest to people towards the sum means of it banting their interest but without forcing particular outcomes. smith made the case for this general approach to this theory of moral sentiments in four years later his lectures on jurisprudence he traced the social norms created this way can to be formalized into laws in specific areas of social life. he then collected and expanded the portions of those lectures dealing with questions of labor and commerce into a book about political economy a book called the wealth of nations and published in that fateful year of great ideas, 1776. is economics was one element of smith's larger vision but there was a particularly important one. as a good liberal the bleeped material prospe

those accountability pieces, our members are very supportive to the vending the waiver of mccarran-fergusone companies so those are some of the issues that have always been part of our agenda, for accountability, taking other forms, public option this are that but they are always about accountability for the health insurance. [inaudible] >> that had nothing to do with that. we were on this course of action anyway, because what we want to do is to move this legislation because i don't think the american people can wait any longer gillet it is about the assurance that they will have that we have found their common ground and that this legislation will pass though we are on the path we have always been on, from a time standpoint. i don't know, we are going to go back to the white house and talk about some other issues this afternoon and probably have a better idea as to when we can sense something that we will send it again, when we are ready, but very optimistic but we are finding common ground, making progress on the differences but remember, 75% of these bills were very, very similar so it

ferguson -- fortunately, they were in the united states with me when this occurred. the critical needs our food and water, medical care, temporary shelters, security, and sanitation. in terms of diet, the most vulnerable groups are new york -- newborns and infants who require attention. the capital city problems continue to grow as people do not have access to goods. if resources are not more strategically distributed, the security situation on the ground could rapidly deteriorate. medical teams must also remain vigilant. respite trade affections and typhoid -- thousands more -- respiratory affections and typhoid could kill thousands more if steps are not taken to mitigate risks. the immediate goals -- in light of over 50 aftershocks with magnitude of 4.0 or greater, it is -- the structure of homes and buildings as critical for the future of the population. before entering the u.s. and earning his doctorate degree in structural engineering, specializing in salvation and water resources, my brother carl water resources, my brother carl worked as an engineer in port- b

karen ferguson repealing the exemption to antitrust laws. good language that talks about insurance companies raising rates and the next couple of years before the changes are established, there would not be able to participate in the exchange. those types of things. accountability. affordability is 30 important. this bids -- affordability is a very important. to the extent that any one of these initiatives or the decision may be to proceed with the full bill, i did not know. there is not a market right now for proceeding with the first bill unless something changes. >> to said you are not in a rush. the president is coming up here next week. this is one have this key priorities. >> we are not in a rush because some colleagues said we are on a cycle. i thought it was more and real time. we will take the time it needs to consider the options. we need to hold insurance companies accountable and make it affordable for the middle- class. we need it to reduce the deficit. we have to find that. >> would you describe for a moment that when you heard

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on the one hand you complain about price-fixing, because of the mccart ferguson act of 1945 in the antitrustmption. and yet you allow medicare price-fixing. on one hand you complain that the system is broken and cost too much. and yet medicare is bankrupt. and of course there still to. let's not debate the jail time if. congresswoman, i would like to ask do you really think the people who elected you are the stupid? why are you playing politics above people's lives ex- >> guest: well, the american medical association actually supports the legislation. so you're not representing the view of organized medicine here, who does, as you may know, in the house bill, we do make an important fix in terms of doctors, and come under medicare. and outcome in the house bill, because we increased the number of people, it agrees with the number of people in medicaid, we understand that we need to raise the rate, that doctors are paid their and so, it is not about politics. this is about -- and i would agree with you. i think we need to do more to regulate the insurance industry, make sure we don't have, an