lou: the ways and means commtee the national party, fernand joe cowley patriots founder and presidentpins of berty, what do youxpect to hear from these victims of what has been and the eggious, gregious use of power by the irs? >> this investigation will be very thorough and complete and to do that you have to hear from the victims of both from the abuses they suffered and they may shelight on how is started so we can continue the investigation. look at the six witnesses covering a rangefrom local organizations that questions were so intrusive that they simply gave up. others were asked everything from what is the content and details of yr ayer meetings to orgazations whose donor list was leaked organizations. you t into the leaking phases of the abuse of the ira's. you have a broad range of victims. lo important to hear from them also some of the agents are starting to talk in relearning what has been said to investigators the house oversight committee in particular. do you think we will have a good sense to how far this scandal which seems to broaden every day how far up it goes? >>