>> immediately when i knew the fernando pereira died. >> is this something that has plagued you for thelast 30 years, been on your conscience? >> yes. many times i'm thinking about these things because for me, i have an innocent death on my consciousness. >> a week after the bombing, jean luc kister and his dive buddy were photographed at a youth hostel. >> we stayed in the country 10 or 12 days, in the south island. >> then they left new zealand using all's passports. how did you feel you found out it was the french who were responsible? >> shop. so completely shocked. how could a bunch of hippies on an old steel trawler scare a superpower so much they would set out to murder us? what possibly could we have done? we were speaking truth to power, that is about it. is that what scares them so badly? >> were the repercussions about this? was there a debate about what happened? >> there was no real debating at the headquarters because there was so much occupied -- they were so much occupied with the problems in france. he was a real political fiasco. it could have been a french watergate.