why risk it and use somebody like fernando perez as part of your case? we had a really good case, no question about it. when you listen to what it was that he had to say to perez, it was a very clear statement of his-- of, of what it was he was doing. his, his in-- his intent, his malice, his reasons. >> alfonsi: under mounting public and political pressure, the district attorney appointed a blue ribbon panel to look into what happened. they described the office as a "must-win mentality." they described your office as a "ship without a rudder." they said, "there's been a failure of leadership." >> rackauckas: you know, it's interesting they did say those things and they, they, they put that in the writing. and-- but i talked to them personally, and they really didn't have that to say, personally. it's getting around that there's some kind of a conspiracy or there's some kind of willingness to violate people's rights or, or to, to, to not give people a fair trial. that's a false narrative. that's just-- that's simply not true. >> alfonsi: okay, so clarify