understand that there are at least 17 vacantcy on lumbard and i have heard as many as 24 for supervisor ferrill's ofce and so you know if there are that many vacantcies do we want to create a storefront that can go vacant, we may want to, instead allow a couple of more parking places and you know, not allow them to not have the storefront there that are often hard to fill. >> we have walked the street, what you find is a lot of sites where you have very little commercial ground floor retail space and the nc3 district is supposed to be a ground floor commercial retail linear street where that is a prominent factor in the street scape and with all of the hotels and motels mostly, along that, retail frontage is very, very disruptive and so it really does not act like a nc3 district. and so there is that consider that we acually to promote these ground floor retail spaces and that is why the code is written as it is for the requirement of this ground and this active retail frontage. >> and i can understand that to try to compare lumbard to chest nut and union they are entirely different streets, this