>>commissioner ferringo. >>i can't wrap my head around this there is no way that these families can pay this $22,000 and then still be able to live in san francisco they will have to move out of san francisco they will not be to have a family or live in san francisco. the migration piece you can almost guarantee there's families are leaving. >>all right. >>i just think the calculations are way too difficult to follow. and i think down the road it's just way too unforgettable for anybody including the members. >>all right. commissioner follansbee. >>i have to agree i really can't visualize this certainly this particular plant but we were called a vote in february and 2 commissioners did not want this to happen at all. that was expressed in some of the emails and we expressed in point number 1 and if you think as a commission we need to decide-- 1st of all i think this presentation has been very useful. i think it points out the impact that this would have on the people that have made retirement decisions based