these things have played an on ferrol and tuition prices. -- unfair role in tuition prices. >> do they pay you? >> they pay me through release of the courses i would normally teach. >> but you do not get a salary for being president? >> no. . it is an elected position. >> you have been president since 2006. what have you learned? what surprised you? >> more than anything else, and the huge diversity of colleges in united states. i visited quite a few before i became president. when you're visiting 30 a year and going across the country, i've been too small religious schools where the character of campus life is wildly different. i have been to historically black colleges. where campus life and campus concerns are very different. i have visited community colleges, private colleges, public institutions. the diversity of higher education is the great strength. you do not find it in other countries in the world. it also means that some faculty members work under conditions that they should not. i have seen campuses where shared governance is not good. academic freedom is in jeopardy. i tea